rarest post war cards revisited 20 top
post ended 2008 time to restart
1st and foremost all contest winning cards american oil, atlantic oil, ashland oil, call bulletin since the winners were turned in and 99.9999% tossed by the company lets not count these not in any particular order if anyone knows anything that is rarer let us know 1960 topps venezuelan tatoo...only 1 known to exist of any player 1959 esslinger beer hr derby...only 1 known(aaron) 1951 currents...stanky roberts konstanty 1955 topps stamps 1961 topps dice 1970 cloth stickers 1966 topps punchouts 1968 topps plak willie mays 1 known 1960 3 topps proofs 1954 esskay jehosie heard 1968 3d prototype brooks robinson 1968 3ds odonahue monday and davis 1955 armour coins in silver...and gold 1962 kahns purkey no autograph 1967 topps stand ups 1959 yoo hoo cards with full length tabs...2 known 1960 opc tatoos many players for unknown reason 1958 hires test w tabs everyone except antonelli 1955 hunters wieners woolridge 1 known 1955 hocus focus 1955 felin franks 1948 gunther beer national tea labels baas cheri cola cleveland national bank schumacher service station im over 20...got carried away |
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1971 Topps Rookie Artists Proofs
I think Bob Lemke has said the 1960 Topps "proofs" he has seen have regular backs, not blank back. Variations ? Topps 1955 Hocus Focus baseball subjects |
Forgot about the artists proofs
Others are listed the 60 proofs full backs Saw all 3 at national...rumierez had them there Psa wouldnt holder them |
'63 Pepsi Bateman with tab should probably be way up the list.
a lot further down '60 Fleer Grove/Martin, Collins/Martin, Tinker/Martin uncancelled versions |
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Good one...bateman with or without tab
And that reminds me of num num kennedy with tab if it exists And a couple more i forgot...1961 gold mine bucks...1 known 1961 leaders cleaners |
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If we eliminate the topps issues
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I'd bet either the Bateman or Hires Test Mays. Probably the former.
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Anthony beat me to the Bateman.
I'll add 67 Dexter Press Paul Schaal. What about 60 Leaf Big Heads? 71 Phillies Ticketron McCarver? 65 Phillies tiles? Mattel Instant Replay Sports Challenge Discs? 59 Dad's Cookies? 62 Salada Dick Williams name on right? Fred |
what about the 4 '53 Bowman unissued variations. I've only seen them offered once in the last 20 years, about '02 in a SCP auction.
I've seen 2 sets of Stanky/Roberts/Konstanty in that span, they've got to be pretty tough. |
I am sure that a Felin's Franks of either Richie Ashburn or Robin Roberts would fetch a pretty penny if they ever came to auction
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Topps 1977 Reggie Jackson as an Oriole...and it's related proof
1960 Leaf Hal Smith blackout version |
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Reggie yes
Hal smith blackout?dont remember that one being tough Anyone chime in on the hal smith? |
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Maybe it was just me. The regular version with the team name and the one with no team name (on back) were not that hard but the intermediate one with the blacked out team name was tough....for me :). The big head prototypes that Fred mentioned earlier are tougher
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1980 topps Prototype Coins
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1960's Dodger Meadowgold dairy, not the milk carton, postcard size I think. Have only seen one offered years ago.
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Maybe not the rarest, but tough:
'49 Jimmy Fund Die-cuts '53 Top Taste/Pict-Sweet Bravers Certain '52 Globe issues '45 & '48 Remar Team cards '50 Prest-o-lite Henrich (unique?) '56 Parkhurst Attachment 225231 Attachment 225232 |
Larry-60 Venezuelan Tatoo are a new one on me. Do you have a scan? Were they issued or just a proof?
I also think the list could be divided by sets vs individual cards. Not sure I would count proofs such as the 71 Rookie All Stars but this is a very interesting topic. |
venez tattoo
i didnt take my own picture but heres the link
http://toppsarchives.blogspot.com/se...eball%20Tattoo |
Briggs Meats Gil Coan and/or Jackie Jensen?
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Hilarious-I completely forgot I had blogged on it! I checked my master Topps list and didn't see it it on there so I'm glad I asked, even though I'm a bit embarrassed....must have neglected to add it in 2013. Thanks though Larry, the list is now updated. Sheesh!!
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Now, for an attempt at a rarity list, at least for Topps, through 1980. I'm sure there will be debate over this!
Sets Issued at Retail (US only): 1955 Hocus Focus small 1951 Major League All Stars 1967 Stand Up 1968 Plaks Checklist 1949 Bazooka Know Your Sports 197? Pocket Size Baseball Game 1974 Deckle White/Glossy 1970 Candy Lid 1973/74 Action Emblems Cardboard (stickers are more plentiful) 1973 Comics 1973 Pinups 1968 Plaks Individual Cards: 1968 Plak Mays 1968 3-D Easel (I've seen three) 1951 Major League All Stars Konstanty, Roberts, Stanky 1955 Hocus Focus (any above #96, which only came in small) 1966 Punchout (any) 1968 Plak Checklist (any) 1956 Pins trio of toughies (which is scarcest?) 1963 Famous American Stamps (Stamp Gum) Ruth, Gehrig 1971 Glossy High Numbers (any) 1952 Mid Series Gray Backs (any) 1964 Banquet (supply has loosened a little though) 1968 Who Am I? uncoated reissue Ruth 1975 Sports Club Garvey Proofs/In House Mockups: 1967 Pinup Stickler (1 known-Clemente) 1960 "Trio" (although other year's error proofs are rare too) 1975 Giant Baseball 1968 3-D Changed/Unissued 1968 3-D Easel (I've seen three) 197? Puffy Stickers 1971 Rookie All Star (10 known, although I think these were display pieces) 1951 Major League All Stars trio 1980 Coin 1966 Punchout (small chance it was actually tested at retail) 1957 Paper 1966 Paper 1967 Paper 1968 Paper 1967 Stand Up thin 1970 Cloth (66 possible, ~40 known, not sure if any dupes exist) 1955 Stamp (40 possible, at least one dupe) 1961 Dice Game 1968 Discs 1967 Discs//1967 SF Giants Discs 1968 Deckle (which color autograph is toughest?) 1972 Candy Lids 197? Topps Superstar Stickers 1980 Topps Pepsi 1972 Cloth 1976 Cloth (4 different textures, which is toughest?) If they exist, the missing trio of 1967 Punchout subjects/lineups would make the list, as would the instruction card from the 1966 version (at least one known). Also, do you count 1971 Topps Winners, inserted in special 1972 packs only given to contest winners? 1969 Bowie Kuhn? 1953 Reprints from 1972? As for items once thought scarce but which are not: 1952 High Numbers 1972 Player Posters 1977 Burger King Piniella 1967 Punchout 1968 Action All Stars 1971 Greatest Moments 1969 Super |
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Dave--what is Giant Baseball ? Why 1980 on Puffy Stickers ?
I always tell folks interested in Topps to read your blog. Maybe you should be reading your blog as well :) |
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Were the Standups actually issued retail? I love your blog postings regarding the tattoos. Any recollection what the Venezuelan sold for? |
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i paid 360 or that mangled tattoo...only one known to still exist
standups were sold since they have wax stains on back...wrappers and and box are pretty rare if not unique |
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Giant Baseball are the 1975 fronts/1976 backs mockups in appropriate size. I changed the Puffy date to a 197? but it could be anywhere from about 1978-81 I guess. Same with the Superstar Stickers, which I just added, along with the individual MLAS s/p's. I'm sure I missed a couple of others. The only reason I included mockups are that many have been decoupled from their original boards and sold in the hobby. Certainly other mockups exist (pr existed) we don;lt even know about. Larry answered the Standups Question for the die cut - they were tested at retail. The 66 Punchouts may have been as well, their known packaging is a hybrid between lab test and retail test. |
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Bob and I both have the 3 uncut 68 Deckle proof sheets with different colored autos....red, blue and black. I think we both decided Blue was toughest. We nearly bankrupted each other trying for the same one some years back.:)
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Puffy Stickers...year and Topps origin unproven. But the number of mistakes make it less likely to be a forged item and more likely done by Topps ;)
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The 80 Coins, another rare proof...Martin versus Howser as Yankee manager in 1980, and Super Stickers. The white game card came in the 74 Cloth Emblem packs. I did the set in cloth then found an uncut sheet of cardboard
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1963 Topps Stamps
http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...539/img055.jpg and 55 http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...39/mossi-1.jpg 56 Pins http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...539/img015.jpg 67 Who Am I http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...539/img016.jpg Hocus Focus 55/56 Large and small http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...539/img013.jpg |
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68 Plaqs
http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...539/img006.jpg 64 Banquet http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...539/img039.jpg 67 Discs, regular and Giants http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...sSheets004.jpg 67 Punch Outs http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...539/img079.jpg 67 Stan Up---proof and die cut http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...539/img078.jpg http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...ps00f754c7.jpg 61 Dice http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...539/img174.jpg 60 Fleer # 80 Martin http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...539/img211.jpg Reverse on Plaqs http://http://i1267.photobucket.com/...ps15bdc840.jpg |
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Reverse on Plaqs
http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...ps15bdc840.jpg Not mine 66 Punch Outs and 70 Cloth http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...539/img128.jpg 68 3 D http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...539/img228.jpg http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...539/img104.jpg Plaq Spruce with Mantle http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...psd5e84c0c.jpg Paper Proofs http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2967a4ea.jpg |
Dave,
Do you have a description or photo of this item? I am aware of the 8x10 photo that came with the Topps main-in "kit" that had the team checklist and the newsletter. Is there something else? Quote:
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I didn't list the 3-D's as they are a little more plentiful than other items on the list. For instance 77 Fairly's have been graded by PSA. ALlowing for resubs, SGC and raw cards, there must be over 100 copies available at a minimum.
However, the stamped back versions (u pick 'em red or black) probably would make the cut. |
68 3d
Dave-- the Fairly and Maloney show up all the time. If the set was issued as a retail test issue in a limited market (I have a couple of wrappers which are scarce but do show up), it is curious why some of the cards in the set seem so much more scarce than others. I agree that the 3 known unissued proof cards belong on your list.
I think I finally got an easel |
Al---
Thanks for sharing your vast array of rare Topps. I particularly admire your 1968 Topps 3-D Mel Stottlemyre in PSA 6. A perfect card in high grade. I was living in the suburbs of Chicago in the early 70s. A high school buddy of mine found out I liked baseball cards. He had some old cards, and two I had never before seen----a pair of 68 Topps 3-Ds. I just stared and stared at them. Wow. These looked so cool. By now I was a veteran of several years collecting the Kellogg's 3-Ds. Those were special to me, but these cards were also quite attractive. How Scott and his father got the two, Stottlemyre and Bill Robinson, I do not recall. His father was a high school principal in another suburb; perhaps five years before he was at a meeting in metro NYC, and stopped in one of the candy shops in Brooklyn where Topps was known to market them. They even had the stamping on the backside to return them to Topps, which sounded ridiculous to me. Knowing what little I do about them, a pack cost a dime and you got two cards and two easels to stand them up. Topps designed them to be special. They were. My buddy gave them both to me that day. I thanked him profusely, and again, I'd never seen them before, nor knew what they were. In a year, I found out. In about 1973, I hooked up a trade with pioneer collector and dealer extraordinaire, Larry Fritsch. I traded him the Stottlemyre for a 1952 Topps Roy Campanella. The Stottlemyre was EX+, I would say; the Campanella EX-MT. We did it through the mail. Apparently, Larry needed Stot, and I only owned one other 52 Topps high number. We were both happy, though that Stottlemyre was flat out beautiful. Thanks again, Al, for taking the pains to share some of yours Topps "Mother Lode".:D Best regards, Brian Powell |
3D
Thanks for sharing the story Brian. Have you seen the 2011 Topps Lineage 3D set ? It is a nice set, only 15 cards. Already had a wrapper but needed the easel, which are hard to come by these days
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Leaf 1960
Larry may be right but I found the blacked out Smith to be very tough. The big head prototypes are very tough. Just the Moryn below
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Coke 1981
Pepsi was mentioned earlier. This is a little outside pre 1980 but although the first 3 Yanks and header can be found without too much problem, the rest were unissued and are very tough. I think I am still missing one, likely and OF guy
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Topps, at least until the point they sold to Eisner's group and changed things up and started doing intentionally what had previously just been part of their daily operations, was still putting out tough sets and tests and goof ups and etc. into the 2000's. There are a number of scarce and rare post 1980 cards and sets out there-I just use that as a cutoff since 1980 is the end of the monopoly era.
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I think the tougher 3-D's were cards that ended up damaged in production. My Maloney No Dugout, like all known examples of this variation, has two pull marks on it that are pretty severe for an issued product(lower left bottom border) and I'll bet the damage to some other cards was too much to let them be issued. They could also have had short prints, of course. http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps62qd2fva.jpg |
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Yes, I have seen several of the 2011 Topps Lineage 3Ds. I was fortunate to be able to get a Mantle in PSA 10. I just love that card. Since purchasing the rights to produce Mickey Mantle cards, Topps wisely chooses to use stirring photos from Mantle's early years. Two most attractive exceptions are the 2012 Gypsy Queen, with Mick rubbing the side of his pants while at bat. Looks like a live telecast of NBC Game of the Week! The other I love is that 2011 Topps Mantle 3-D, with the shot of Mickey appearing to be from the late stages of his career--where he would always use a batting helmet, and frequently wear the undershirt with the black long sleeves. He is seen beginning to drop his bat, as he watches one of his titanic home runs sail into the far reaches of the bleachers. Those moments were becoming fewer, and he relished them. Nice shot. I think of that card as precisely what a 1968 Topps 3-D would have looked, had Topps chosen to make one of him.;) Thanks again for sharing some of your wonderful collection with us, bro. ---Brian Powell |
A couple more for consideration
1967 Topps pinup sticker (1 known)
1958 Kahn's - I know the Clemente is insanely scarce - I believe a few of the other players as well. |
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76 Hostess green/yellow instead of red/blue.
http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...ictureid=10144http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...ictureid=10145 I got a small batch of them from a friends neighbor in maybe 1979 or 80. Traded a McCovey Washington for them, and stupidly then traded half the batch to the local dealer for another McCovey. They have every appearance of being issued on boxes. But are screened entirely differently from the regular ones, and the batch included numbers over 150. I've never seen any others. There was a fairly local Hostess bakery so maybe some test prints got out to the packaging line somehow. I don't think the kids family had any connection to Hostess, I'd have probably asked since I was always after the shelf ads or any other promotional stuff I could find. The RC cola guy promised he'd send something but never did. I also met a Topps rep who claimed that he had boxes of some fairly tough stuff that he'd kept rather than put it out with retailers. (greatest moments, 74 deckle, that sort of stuff.) None was for sale since he figured it would be worth a lot more later on. I've always wondered if that stuff ever turned up. Steve B |
1966 Pro's Pizza
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Don't let the SGC label mislead you...This is the Real Deal 1966 issue of Pro's Pizza with the full border and unperforated back. HOFer Billy Williams, no less...Thanks, Bagger's...
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Must be the seller :)
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Post war rare cards
I would add the 1977 Venezuelan stickers and the 1982 MSA FBI disc
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briggs
nice coan dan
i still need tommy byrne |
1983 Topps Tommy John Yankees variation. Can't be too many of those out there...
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Tommy John
Ricky---what is the John variation ? The proof card of him as Yankee ?. Hope the forum police from the main board do not get mad at us about cross forum posting :-)
here is a tough proof...Martin versus Howser as Yankee manager. Sorry about poor scan http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...9/img023-4.jpg |
The 1949 Lummis Peanut Butter Phillies has to be one of the rarest post war sets, and I'm surprised it hasn't been mentioned in this list.
In 15-20 years, I've seen perhaps one example of most players from the set -- but check auction catalogs, VCP, etc. -- these cards simply do not turn up in any way, shape or form |
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1967 Ashland
Has anyone mentioned the 1967 Asland Maloney card? Here's some history on it. http://boblemke.blogspot.com/2009/09...shland_12.html
Anyone have a picture of the Mazeroski card? I've never seen one of those. |
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I would love to own a 1952 Indianapolis Clowns Hank Aaron PC ...
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1968 Mays Plak
1968 Mays Plak was listed at the beginning of this thread - Does someone here own or have a picture of it? Larry? Awesome thread - glad it got revived
Anyone know or want to speculate why the 1958 Kahn's set is so darn difficult compared to any of the other sets 1957, 1959, etc? |
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1976 Jerry Jonas Productions & 1960-61 Dodgers Frito Folders, although a few more have surfaced as of late.
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How about the 1969 Rawlings Promo card of Brooks Robinson? I have only seen one... The Reggie card seems a little more common.
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The Mays Plak is pretty awesome Larry. I mean it is as butt ugly as all the others, but still pretty awesome
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1967 Ashland
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Here is my Ashland set, minus the Maloney...
http://starsofthediamond.com/ashland.jpg Here are some other tough ones... (Complete Set of 1975 Mengler cards, very few actually distributed)... http://starsofthediamond.com/mengler.jpg 2) 1968 Atlantic Winners... http://starsofthediamond.com/atlanticwinners.jpg 3.) 1972 Yankees Schedule Cards (w/ Stottlemyre SP)... http://starsofthediamond.com/1972yankeesschedule.jpg 4.) 1968 American Oil Winner... http://starsofthediamond.com/americanoilwinner.jpg |
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1969 Boy Scouts Mets and Yankees are extremely tough.
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1962 Bazooka Complete Box Schwall/Mays/Larker
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A couple of others that are eluding me: 1954 Bowman Morrie Martin (44 ERA) -- can someone show me one? 1959 Kahn's Harvey Haddix 1962 Salada stupid variations 1969 Topps Pirates Rookies (no outline) 1991 Leaf Gold Rookies (numbered) Also, if anyone can show a scan of the 1962 Kahn's Bob Purkey no autograph card, please do. Larry, have you actually seen one? |
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Never seen purkey
The one on pop is mislabelled...go figure Seen the 69 no outline but dont have |
1954 and 1969
Bob---try Deans Cards and COMC on the Martin, where they have back scans on their inventory. I got mine from Deans
http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1502543213 I think Darren here ( jollyelm) may have a 69 Pirates Rookies to trade. I could be wrong. I know he has one. He does not sell, just trades but has a large want list in his BST for trade thread ( 1960s forum). Can not remember where I got mine http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...539/img244.jpg |
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