The Cleveland Guardians? Yes, It's Official
 

Just learned that next year the Cleveland Indians will be known as the Cleveland Guardians. Peace.

Here's some more color on the name, for anyone who is interested. It's from the official news release:

"The Cleveland Guardians will boast the same blue and red color scheme we’ve grown familiar with. The organization wanted the script to be similar to what it has been for the last 75 years but decided to make slight changes to mimic the structural architecture of the Hope Memorial Bridge, imitating the trusses of the bridge’s underside. On the road, the team will continue to sport “Cleveland” across its chest, while “Guardians” will be printed on the home jerseys."

I am not a Cleveland fan. I am glad they finally decided to change their name. That is a Good Name.

Yup...Professional sports ran out of good names years ago. Guardians is a very huggy, safe name. Perfect for America in 2021.

What an absolutely horrible name! "Let's Go Guards!"....just rolls of the tongue. It sounds like some terrible USFL or Arena League team. If I were fans of the former Indians, I would either give up baseball or find a new team.

Are they competing for worst franchise nickname? If so they are now winning by a margin that puts Secretariat to shame.

I don't mind a name change but Guardians sounds like a fake movie team name. Cleveland had two great names before the Indians. What was wrong with the Spiders or the Naps?

It makes good sense in context, but initial impression it sounds like a bland computer-generated fake sports name.

I still think they should have picked the Spiders. Lots of potential modernizing that one into today’s brand marketing. Could of had a cute looking spider mascot named CY.

Yes, agree.

Sounds like an XFL Franchise. I feel like there were so many other options they could've went with. Could've gone historical and went with the Naps or Spiders.

Congratulations to Cleveland on moving to a resolution faster than the Capital City American Football Franchise.

Because "Spiders" is offensive to the millions of arachnids who are crushed or murdered by imperialist exterminators every year.

Awkward name, I'll stick to calling them the "Naps".

Agree that they should’ve gone with Spiders. Logo of the ball kind of interesting though - kind of like a lefty throwing a fork ball. Rest of the brand other than the “C” logo is junk

How about the Cleveland Fellers ?

The reasoning behind it makes sense. I think everybody is just so used to the Indians name though that it'll seem awkward for a bit to call them the Guardians.

I'm a Cleveland fan. It's fine. "Indians" needed to go, and any new name would have sounded odd after 106 years with the old one. I would have preferred a historical name, or even "Americans" like my 1914 Cracker Jack Lajoie reads, but they weren't picking the name for my benefit. We'll all be accustomed to "Guardians" in a couple of years.

I guess there were IP issues with the name Spiders.

I predict a section in the bleachers will be called the “Big House” with everyone dressed as bad ass prison guards.

If calling them "Indians" is offensive to Indians, isn't calling them "Guardians" likewise offensive to guardians?

And calling them "Naps" would be offensive to Frenchmen.

They should have named them the "Inclusives"

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No need to relitigate this extensively, but setting aside recriminations about whom might be offended by what (including a name change itself) and why, and whether that's the actual issue, as a fan of the club, I appreciate the move to a new name.

They are angry in Calcutta.

yes, it is a terrible name.

They will accept it. The city of Cleveland already is diehard for teams called the Cavaliers and Browns.

LOL! Does anyone expect the name of "Guardians" to last? It is though the owner of the Indians added another punchline to "Major League".

Guardians? Doesn't sound like a sports team to me! If the word INDIAN offended some people, then they should have called themselves the Cleveland ERIE or Cleveland SENECANS!

Guardians is just short for Guaranteed Indians

Agreed, seems like they chose a vanilla name designed to avoid angering anyone. It's just shy of using the Cleveland Neutrals. Spiders would have been the choice IMO.

Not a fan! I really thought the "Spiders" was a forgone conclusion.

The "Spiders" would have been a marketing Gold Mine! There are so many different ways to market that name and an image of a spider! So many promotions and the uniforms, logos, etc could have been so cool.

The Guardians is such a weak mascot that I can only guess that was only chosen because they couldn't protect the name Spiders like they wanted to. As mentioned it sounds like a fake name from a bad Disney sports movie.

**That being said, if they had gone with "Cleveland Rocks" or something like that it would have been SO MUCH WORSE! I'm glad they didn't go down that path.

At least when the team stinks the fans will have new placard choices...
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Spiders would've been pretty cool, both in terms of a team mascot/logo, and interesting/artistic Uniform and Cap possibilities.

But to nobody's surprise, they chose a horribly bland name. Can't even imagine an interesting or decent looking logo... maybe a block letter "G" (how exciting!)

Perfect for the current times though... "Guardians" sounds like an Insurance Company Team, Soccer Club, or WNBA franchise, and should not offend anyone. Super safe choice!

This brings up a good point. Were Paul Brown and/or Jim Brown offended by the name "Browns?"

For those that have watched the TV show Community...

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Doubtful as to Paul-- the team was named for him.

They were probably OK with it, but I heard the local UPS Drivers raised hell.

I like it but Spiders would have been way cooler as well as a nice nod to history.

Cleveland Rocks would have been hilarious. Every year the press could lead off spring with "Rocks' Pennant Hopes Sink Like A Stone". Was too similar the Colorado Rockies, though.

America was named for the Italian explorer Amerigo Vespucci, who was a slave owner and slave trader. I am now offended by being known as an "American." I want that name changed and everything named using the word America. American League, American Football Conference, NATIVE AMERICAN, "America the Beautiful", Bank of America, Great American Ballpark, United States of America, North America, South America, Central America, etc. etc. etc.
But hey, we can all feel great now that a baseball team in Cleveland has changed from their terribly offensive name "Indians" to the "Guardians." :eek:
What a joke.

If I was a fan of that club, I would honestly rather see them do what the Washington Football Team did. It's less stupid.

Think I’ll call them the G-Men.


Sheesh.

What are their uniforms going to look like? Black cloaks? :)

And the Indians were named after Sockalexis. Why can a team be named after some people and no offense is taken (Brown, Lajoie) but not others?

It seems like for every tradition in this country, there is somebody intent on tearing it down.

Yep. Like this one.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/23/us/kk...tol/index.html

Cancel culture.


I am taking offense at these guys playing baseball!!

That would be an excellent analogy........ if Sockalexis had founded a hate group.

Which is worse? To memorialize a KKK member with a bust or parade with them? :rolleyes:

I see. You get to decide what is tradition and what is offensive. Damn shame the Cleveland ownership didn't consult with you before deciding to change names.

As was discussed back late last year, this so-called cancel culture has been going on for half a century now when it comes to teams changing their nicknames. So you can piss and moan all you want, it's not going away.

You just nailed the real motive behind this entire cancel culture.

As someone who’s team is named after laundry, and not even fancy top layer laundry, I find this hard to get up in arms about.

Should have just gone with the Cleveland Wokes.

And that would offend the insomniacs.

The Cleveland Capitulaters

Just like Naps would offend siestas and slumbers :)

lmfao

I find it ironic that some people want to cancel "cancel culture".

I just learned that "Guardians" has a local history involving 100 year old statues on the road to the stadium area, and that they tried to find a name with the "dians" so they could maintain the logo style and nod to the old name.

I would still prefer the Spiders...their mascot could be Boris.

https://youtu.be/JWpz2OYf1QU

https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.W...=0&w=167&h=163

Long live Louis
 

Long live Louis

I liked Spiders and Blues both better but could have been worse....
moving on... im more upset about the 9th inning blown save last night....
Go Tribe !

That name is the epitome of awfulness!!!!! What in high f_ck???????????

They should have no name at all, with just a bold, handwritten 'x' on the front of the jersey as a symbol of cancel culture. And perhaps any fan showing up in something with a Cleveland Indians logo on it should be immediately arrested.

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Or better yet, call them the Cleveland Cortis, to memorialize the ITALIAN actor who played the fake, crying Indian in those memorable 1970 TV commercials, Espera Oscar de Corti. Quite apropos.

Now if they could just change the name "Cleveland" they'd really have something. ;)

Hahahaha

I was going to say the same thing!

...I was really hoping they would go with Cleveland Steamers to really signify how this whole thing was handled.

Honestly, it's not that bad, just a bit generic. It looks like they're leaning into an Art Deco style, which will be a nice break from the usual.

Folks from Cleveland, did the campaign to pick the Spiders ever really take off locally? It always seemed to get good traction online, but never saw it mentioned in any Ohio media.

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How about.....
 

The Cleveland apologists!? or the Cleveland Cancel Culturists?

Both are great! :) hopefully the Braves will be next.

Look at what is happening here, changing names of streets, sports teams, removing statues, etc, on and on. We should be looking at China & see how they control their people, it’s happening here.

Cancel culture has been going on for 50 years?

I think they missed the boat
 

Why not a threatening geographic name

Introducing the CLEVELAND EERIES

No where close to the extent it is now. I can't even get Uncle Ben's rice any longer. Now it's Uncle Harry's or something (no offense to anyone named Harry)

That's my point-- there is nothing real new here. The Stanford team changed its name from the Indians to Cardinals in 1972, and several other teams followed suit in the ensuing few years. There was no such term as cancel culture, now it's considered some kind of movement fostered by a sort of evil, anti-American, what have they done to my great country cabal. Oh the horror!

I wonder if we'd be having this discussion had the Indians agreed to give a percentage of their take every year to some indian tribes or charities for the supposed use of the term "Indians"? Would be interesting to see how the "insulted" ethnic group would have reacted had the team ownership just voluntarily decided to change the name, and then informed those tribes/charities they would no longer be getting any money from the team.

Maybe it's true that naming the team the Cleveland Indians was out of respect but it clearly didn't last. Chief Wahoo could not be confused with respect on any level in my opinion. I'm not sure why there's always resistance to ending bad practices. Why would anyone want to perpetuate Chief Wahoo? Or an association with it? Even though I don't like Guardians it is a clean break from all things Wahoo. Although I think Naps or Spiders would have accomplished the same thing.

If Cleveland is going to come up with a crappy new name, might as well go further and call themselves the “Mistakes”. Named after the cozy confines of the old Cleveland Municipal Stadium affectionately known as the mistake on the lake.

As far as tradition goes, I don't think a name change really matters. So many teams in all sports have moved over the years and change their names to align with the new city (and if they don't it seems odd) and so many many players change teams every year that they don't even know who they're playing for.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivzrbp_WR8w

Why not the "Spiders" just crazy!

Jimmy

Supposedly IP issues.

I don't like the new name. If they were going to go with something boring then they should have just renamed the team the Cleveland Meh's.

David

This ^^^

You “cancel culture” people…get over it!
Ben is not my uncle and Jemima is not my aunt.
Do some research

I don't know whether to laugh or cry at how awful this is. The Guardians? Ridiculous times