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bobbyw8469 10-04-2022 12:35 PM

Any interest in an SGC piggyback submission? CLOSED!! Grades popped!!
 
I made a request with SGC after my PSA ordeal to see if I could get a little better pricing than what PSA had. They told me I could get $23 a card.....if I submitted 200 cards. Is there ANY interest in sending cards to SGC?? The turnaround would be a ton faster, although I am not sure their cards get the money PSA does.

Casey2296 10-04-2022 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 2269984)
I made a request with SGC after my PSA ordeal to see if I could get a little better pricing than what PSA had. They told me I could get $23 a card.....if I submitted 200 cards. Is there ANY interest in sending cards to SGC?? The turnaround would be a ton faster, although I am not sure their cards get the money PSA does.

I have about a dozen I could send, any value limit?

bobbyw8469 10-04-2022 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Casey2296 (Post 2270047)
I have about a dozen I could send, any value limit?

Their value limit is quite a bit higher than PSA's. I wanna say it is $1,499.

bobbyw8469 10-04-2022 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Casey2296 (Post 2270047)
I have about a dozen I could send, any value limit?

I almost feel like they are trolling me. Not even PSA forces me to submit 200 cards.

Tyruscobb 10-04-2022 03:48 PM

I'm about all rawed out. However, I know I have at least 7 (possible more) if the group has legs.

Phil and I can get you 10% of the way there.

bobbyw8469 10-04-2022 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyruscobb (Post 2270055)
I'm about all rawed out. However, I know I have at least 7 (possible more) if the group has legs.

Phil and I can get you 10% of the way there.

LOL.....do you and Phil even like SGC??? I like the fact that they are fast. I love that. But what else do they have to offer?

BobbyStrawberry 10-04-2022 05:18 PM

I'd throw in a few if this comes together.

Casey2296 10-04-2022 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 2270095)
LOL.....do you and Phil even like SGC??? I like the fact that they are fast. I love that. But what else do they have to offer?

I send all of my pre war cards to SGC, gotta have that black apron.

JollyElm 10-04-2022 05:51 PM

Any idea how SGC handles cards that PSA deems 'miscut'? Not the MC qualifier, but returned ungraded "N8: MISCUT"? I have a few of those that came out of the pack that way, but PSA rejected them...which is weird. Would love to get them slabbed, but don't want to waste the money if SGC sees them the same way. Guess I could send pics to the guy I was talking to for awhile over there.

Tyruscobb 10-04-2022 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 2270095)
LOL.....do you and Phil even like SGC??? I like the fact that they are fast. I love that. But what else do they have to offer?

I like PSA and SGC. BVG is a no-go for me. Hate the thicker case, and that stupid penny sleeve in the case which always becomes wrinkled.

Tyruscobb 10-04-2022 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JollyElm (Post 2270119)
Any idea how SGC handles cards that PSA deems 'miscut'? Not the MC qualifier, but returned ungraded "N8: MISCUT"? I have a few of those that came out of the pack that way, but PSA rejected them...which is weird. Would love to get them slabbed, but don't want to waste the money if SGC sees them the same way. Guess I could send pics to the guy I was talking to for awhile over there.

SGC slabs them as authentic.

bobbyw8469 10-04-2022 06:03 PM

I like them both, but I prefer PSA due to the resale value.

JollyElm 10-04-2022 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyruscobb (Post 2270122)
SGC slabs them as authentic.

Thank you. I did just send pics over to them, described the issues and asked questions. SGC is usually really good about getting back to me quickly, so I'll see if a number possibly lies at the end of the grading rainbow. Damn tilted cards!!!

Vegas Cards 10-04-2022 06:29 PM

I have six 1911 Mecca Double Folders I've wanted to get slabbed for a while.

I'd include those if they'd take them. Not sure if the size works.

bobbyw8469 10-04-2022 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas Cards (Post 2270134)
I have six 1911 Mecca Double Folders I've wanted to get slabbed for a while.

I'd include those if they'd take them. Not sure if the size works.

That's a good question....let me look and see.

bobbyw8469 10-04-2022 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas Cards (Post 2270134)
I have six 1911 Mecca Double Folders I've wanted to get slabbed for a while.

I'd include those if they'd take them. Not sure if the size works.

PRICING FOR OVERSIZED RAW CARD GRADING, CROSSOVERS AND REVIEWS
Oversized items are larger than 3 ½ " x 5 ½ "

And I looked at the pricing. It is OUTRAGEOUS!!! $100 minimum.

big-six 10-04-2022 06:49 PM

I’m in
 
I have 15 maybe 20

I’ll check

Lucas00 10-04-2022 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 2270144)
PRICING FOR OVERSIZED RAW CARD GRADING, CROSSOVERS AND REVIEWS
Oversized items are larger than 3 ½ " x 5 ½ "

And I looked at the pricing. It is OUTRAGEOUS!!! $100 minimum.

Not to mention sgc doesn't slab 8x10 which is outrageously stupid.
I love sgc but I hope they can start covering the niches again like they used to. And maybe even expand into photos, they are becoming nearly as popular as cards.

The massive turnaround of standard size modern and standard vintage has made them lazy in terms of broadening horizons again. With turnaround being sometimes less than a day from the time sgc get your cards to the time they're shipped back you would think they would've already announced some changes like this.

Vegas Cards 10-04-2022 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 2270144)
PRICING FOR OVERSIZED RAW CARD GRADING, CROSSOVERS AND REVIEWS
Oversized items are larger than 3 ½ " x 5 ½ "

And I looked at the pricing. It is OUTRAGEOUS!!! $100 minimum.

Quick google search shows this

The T201 Mecca Double Folders series were beautifully lithographed tobacco insert card released in 1911. The artistically rendered creations total 50 cards, each measuring approximately 2-1/4" by 4-11/16"

And I see plenty on Ebay in SGC slabs. I'm going to call them tomorrow and see what they say.

bobbyw8469 10-04-2022 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas Cards (Post 2270158)
Quick google search shows this

The T201 Mecca Double Folders series were beautifully lithographed tobacco insert card released in 1911. The artistically rendered creations total 50 cards, each measuring approximately 2-1/4" by 4-11/16"

And I see plenty on Ebay in SGC slabs. I'm going to call them tomorrow and see what they say.

The size you listed is smaller than what they said constitutes oversized. You can call to confirm, but that is what my take is on it.

1880nonsports 10-04-2022 08:20 PM

Have only a couple/three
 
just LMK if you are a go.....

Actually I have at least 6.....

cammb 10-04-2022 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 2270095)
LOL.....do you and Phil even like SGC??? I like the fact that they are fast. I love that. But what else do they have to offer?


How about correct grading!

drmondobueno 10-04-2022 11:27 PM

Timing?
 
Hey Bobby, any idea when you need to have this wrapped up and submitted? Need to actually go through my stuff since I have not submitted anything in about six years, no idea what I may have (!).

Worth grading, that is...

BuzzD 10-05-2022 04:30 AM

Scg
 
Bobby, I have 20

bnorth 10-05-2022 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cammb (Post 2270184)
How about correct grading!

That is completely irrelevant. It is about the cash when you sell them and nothing else.:D

bobbyw8469 10-05-2022 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 2270246)
That is completely irrelevant. It is about the cash when you sell them and nothing else.:D

You got that right. My main appeal is the fact that you can have the cards back in approximately two weeks versus quite a long wait for PSA.

Republicaninmass 10-05-2022 06:33 AM

:cool:
Quote:

Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 2270246)
That is completely irrelevant. It is about the cash when you sell them and nothing else.:D

At least We can prepare a crossover to PSA sub quickly!

bobbyw8469 10-05-2022 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass (Post 2270249)
:cool:

At least We can prepare a crossover to PSA sub quickly!

Crossover's seldom work. Not in other guy's holders.

bobbyw8469 10-05-2022 06:45 AM

Gonna get a roll call for how close I can get. 200 seems like a lot.

bobbyw8469 10-05-2022 06:45 AM

1-20 - Bobby

Casey2296 10-05-2022 07:53 AM

21-33 Phil

peanuts 10-05-2022 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JollyElm (Post 2270119)
Any idea how SGC handles cards that PSA deems 'miscut'? Not the MC qualifier, but returned ungraded "N8: MISCUT"? I have a few of those that came out of the pack that way, but PSA rejected them...which is weird. Would love to get them slabbed, but don't want to waste the money if SGC sees them the same way. Guess I could send pics to the guy I was talking to for awhile over there.

They would either get an "AUTHENTIC: Miscut" or "AUTHENTIC: Minimum size not met."

bobbyw8469 10-05-2022 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peanuts (Post 2270275)
They would either get an "AUTHENTIC: Miscut" or "AUTHENTIC: Minimum size not met."

Maybe.,....maybe not....I have had "miscuts" get a number grade from SGC. It all depends on the eyes.

bnorth 10-05-2022 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 2270248)
You got that right. My main appeal is the fact that you can have the cards back in approximately two weeks versus quite a long wait for PSA.

So selling raw cards at PSA graded prices on Facebook didn't work out?:confused:

Since it is all about the cash. You need to figure out what cards not to send to SGC because they do bring way less SGC graded. I recently got lucky and bought 3 rare cards really cheap because they were in SGC slabs.

fusorcruiser 10-05-2022 08:30 AM

Hi Bobby, Put me in for 20. Thank you for doing this as I've been holding some cards to submit but waiting for a good deal.

bobbyw8469 10-05-2022 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 2270283)
So selling raw cards at PSA graded prices on Facebook didn't work out?:confused:

Since it is all about the cash. You need to figure out what cards not to send to SGC because they do bring way less SGC graded. I recently got lucky and bought 3 rare cards really cheap because they were in SGC slabs.

I never sold raw cards at PSA graded prices on Facebook. Maybe you have me confused with someone else?

Tyruscobb 10-05-2022 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 2270252)
Gonna get a roll call for how close I can get. 200 seems like a lot.

Hey Bobby,

I think we have enough. There are several people wanting to submit 20 cards.

Tyruscobb 10-05-2022 09:14 AM

Brent: 34 - 41

drmondobueno 10-05-2022 09:20 AM

Have at least ten.

LACardsGuy 10-05-2022 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 2269984)
I made a request with SGC after my PSA ordeal to see if I could get a little better pricing than what PSA had. They told me I could get $23 a card.....if I submitted 200 cards. Is there ANY interest in sending cards to SGC?? The turnaround would be a ton faster, although I am not sure their cards get the money PSA does.

Check out nashcards.com. I just used them and it went well. You get 23/card with no minimum.

bobbyw8469 10-05-2022 10:12 AM

I saw them. I wonder why they are making me meet a minimum then??

Casey2296 10-05-2022 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 2270332)
I saw them. I wonder why they are making me meet a minimum then??

They probably get enough cards in to meet the minimum.

1880nonsports 10-05-2022 10:30 AM

apparently
 
people never get bored of pounding PSA or SGC in whatever thread they are in. So tired of it. It doesn't have to be brought up in EVERY FREAKING THREAD even though the complaint or comment has NOTHING to do with the subject of the thread. You guys are amazing......

bobbyw8469 10-05-2022 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1880nonsports (Post 2270348)
people never get bored of pounding PSA or SGC in whatever thread they are in. So tired of it. It doesn't have to be brought up in EVERY FREAKING THREAD even though the complaint or comment has NOTHING to do with the subject of the thread. You guys are amazing......

I'm sorry Henry...I like them both...for vastly different reasons.

BobbyStrawberry 10-05-2022 12:23 PM

I'm good for at least six cards if you're still counting, Bobby

bobbyw8469 10-05-2022 12:31 PM

34-39 Bobby Strawberry

Scott L. 10-05-2022 12:48 PM

Just an FYI someone was already 34-41 above.

bobbyw8469 10-05-2022 12:55 PM

Sorry Brent

TyrusCobb - 40-47
MondoBueno - 48-57
FuscoCruiser - 58-77

bobbyw8469 10-05-2022 01:00 PM

Just trying to get a running head count to see if this is even feasible.

todeen 10-05-2022 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 2270400)
Sorry Brent



TyrusCobb - 40-47

MondoBueno - 48-57

FuscoCruiser - 58-77

I need to submit, but I'm at work. I'll confirm with you in a few hours. I think it's at least 10 cards. I'd have more, but two are exhibits, and one is T202. Those three would be oversize I believe?

Tim

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Scott L. 10-05-2022 01:11 PM

I have at lesat 6 I could contribute.....

bobbyw8469 10-05-2022 01:33 PM

bUZZd-78-97

That's fine....We put the size for oversize up earlier in the thread.

Vegas Cards 10-05-2022 02:11 PM

Just got this email back from SGC support, good to know.

With this confirmation, I'm in for six cards.

Hi,

Thanks for reaching out. We appreciate your support. We do grade T201 Mecca Double Headers, they also fit in one of our standard holders that would not require an upcharge.

Please let me know if you have any other questions and I'll be happy to help.

Thank you.

Collector Support

big-six 10-05-2022 02:14 PM

I have 24
 
Corrected on second post

big-six 10-05-2022 02:16 PM

My bad 24
 
98-121

1880nonsports 10-05-2022 02:23 PM

122-129
 
have 8 for now.....

todeen 10-05-2022 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 2270402)
Just trying to get a running head count to see if this is even feasible.

I counted 13, a bakers dozen.

Tim

Sent from my SM-G9900 using Tapatalk

bobbyw8469 10-05-2022 05:07 PM

This is more popular than I though......I do like the fact that SGC grades cards quickly.....but $23 per card...whew....lololololoolol

Lucas00 10-05-2022 06:48 PM

Waiting on the $10-$15 range

bobbyw8469 10-05-2022 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucas00 (Post 2270557)
Waiting on the $10-$15 range

I would love that Lucas!!!! You think it will ever come back?

Lucas00 10-05-2022 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 2270566)
I would love that Lucas!!!! You think it will ever come back?

I'm really hoping so, I have probably 20-30 items myself to send in. And with PSA being cheaper I don't see sgc not lowering soon.

My guess is they lower to $25 before the new year (group subs/bulk $20)

And next year below $20 to that $15 mark (maybe $10-$12 a card bulk/group submission)

Sooner the better, I know a ton of people waiting for this.

teza11 10-05-2022 10:12 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Any thoughts on how SGC would handle this one? Bottom has been trimmed and backside skinned. Width measures right and cardstock rigid. I'd be happy with an "A". Likely?

Jeff

bobbyw8469 10-06-2022 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teza11 (Post 2270611)
Any thoughts on how SGC would handle this one? Bottom has been trimmed and backside skinned. Width measures right and cardstock rigid. I'd be happy with an "A". Likely?

Jeff

I'm sending a Chase exactly like that. I imagine it would get slabbed "A" as well......

Jay Wolt 10-06-2022 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 2270655)
I'm sending a Chase exactly like that. I imagine it would get slabbed "A" as well......

It should
They graded my skinned Buchner as Authentic

https://www.qualitycards.com/pictures/1283689013.jpg

Tyruscobb 10-06-2022 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teza11 (Post 2270611)
Any thoughts on how SGC would handle this one? Bottom has been trimmed and backside skinned. Width measures right and cardstock rigid. I'd be happy with an "A". Likely?

Jeff

SGC won't slab a card if it is too fragile. Sometimes SGC determines that skinned cards are too fragile to grade and slab.

wolf441 10-06-2022 07:03 AM

Hi Bobby,

I would be in for 15 cards. Thanks for doing this!

Scott L. 10-06-2022 08:42 AM

SGC just announced lower prices. 50+ cards are $18 per.

Tyruscobb 10-06-2022 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott L. (Post 2270684)
SGC just announced lower prices. 50+ cards are $18 per.

Good price. Maybe Bobby can get us down to $16 a card if we have over 200 total cards?

teza11 10-06-2022 11:31 AM

Thanks for the feedback on the Kelly card.

Bobby - count me in for 1!

Thanks,
Jeff

bobbyw8469 10-06-2022 11:37 AM

I heard the news as well....not sure what is going on now....obviously I don't want to pay $23 anymore....lololol

bobbyw8469 10-06-2022 11:39 AM

I guess this one is officially on??? Worst case scenario, $18 per card?? plus the usually buck to cover shipping to and from Florida??

bobbyw8469 10-06-2022 11:53 AM

Must NOT be oversized. Send in Card Saver 1's. Include a slip of paper with your name, address, phone number, email address, and net54 handle.

Send to:
Robert Williams
PO Box 61362
Raleigh, NC 27661-1362

Please put SGC sub somewhere in the form. All I have ever done here is PSA. This is a first for me doing a group one for SGC.

bobbyw8469 10-06-2022 02:57 PM

.....and just like that....PSA dropped their bulk to $18.

Tyruscobb 10-06-2022 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 2270803)
.....and just like that....PSA dropped their bulk to $18.

So, SGC & PSA now have the same bulk rate. Interesting. Are you still going forward with the SGC submission group?

Is the PSA maximum value still $199 per card? If so, I’m still game for the SGC group. $199 maximum and a 6 month wait, or a $1,000 plus maximum and a 2 week wait is more appealing to me.

bobbyw8469 10-06-2022 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyruscobb (Post 2270806)
So, SGC & PSA now have the same bulk rate. Interesting. Are you still going forward with the SGC submission group?

Is the PSA maximum value still $199 per card? If so, I’m still game for the SGC group. $199 maximum and a 6 month wait, or a $1,000 plus maximum and a 2 week wait is more appealing to me.

Yes...still doing SGC.....yes, the value max on PSA is $200. The value max on SGC is $1,500.

Jeff_cvc 10-06-2022 06:32 PM

I’m good for 15-20

bobbyw8469 10-06-2022 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff_cvc (Post 2270880)
I’m good for 15-20

Then we are on...do you see my address above?

Jeff_cvc 10-06-2022 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 2270886)
Then we are on...do you see my address above?

Got it, thank you!

Arazi4442 10-06-2022 08:52 PM

Hi Bobby, I’ve got two I’d like too add if that’s not too small.

bobbyw8469 10-06-2022 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arazi4442 (Post 2270936)
Hi Bobby, I’ve got two I’d like too add if that’s not too small.

No that's fine......and now all we need is 50.......


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