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Cards of Satchel Paige in Negro Leagues

Posted By: peter chaoGuys, I had a '53 Topps Satchel Paige but I traded it for a '58 Topps Ted Williams. At any rate, does anybody know of a vintage Satchel Paige card while he was pitching in the Negro Leagues. Peter

Cards of Satchel Paige in Negro Leagues

Posted By: Ryan ChristoffNo pre-majors cards of Paige. -Ryan

Cards of Satchel Paige in Negro Leagues

Posted By: peter chaoRyan, That's incredible, Satchel pitched for about 25 years before he appeared in the majors with the Cleveland Indians and not a single card. Peter

Cards of Satchel Paige in Negro Leagues

Posted By: PaulIt's really not that surprising. Strictly speaking, there are no known Negro League cards at all. There are Cuban League cards and Puerto Rican League cards and some of these cards picture players who also played for Negro League teams. But the cards list the players with their appropriate Cuban League or Puerto Rican League team and picture the players in their Cuban League or Puerto Rican League uniforms. Ryan would know better than me whether Satchel Paige played in Cuba or Puerto Rico during a time when cards were being issued there. If not, that would explain the complete absence of Negro League era cards of him.

Cards of Satchel Paige in Negro Leagues

Posted By: Ryan ChristoffPeter, You're right, for as long as his career was, it's almost a fluke he didn't have any cards. But he was just never in the right place at the right time. He played in Cuba in 1929, but it was too late for any of the great 1920s issues produced there. He played in Venezuela in the late 1930s, but it was too late for any of the issues produced there between 1931 and 1935. He played in the Dominican Republic in 1937 but there were no cards until nearly the 1950s. He played in Puerto Rico as early as 1939, but not long enough to make it into any of the sets produced there beginning in 1948. He also played in Mexico but there is almost nothing from there. Part of the problem is that from the late 1920s until the mid-40s there were no cards produced in any of those countries other than a couple of issues in Venezuela in the early 30s. Same thing with Buck Leonard. Cool Papa Bell, too, although he does appear in uniform on a studio portrait real photo postcard from a series that probably featured each member (only 5 different players have surfaced) of the team. Hard to definitively call that a card, though. When you think about it, it's really more of a fluke that some players do have cards than it is that Satchel Paige doesn't. Biz Mackey was only in cuba one season (1924-25) but he made it onto a card. Bullet Rogan and Turkey Stearnes were both there that year as well, but no cards for either of them. Jud Wilson was dominant in Cuba for 6 seasons, but didn't get there until the 1925-26 season. His only shot to get on a card was the 1927-28 Mallorquina issue, which he is not in. Willie Foster has a card in that issue even though his only season in Cuba was 1927-28. Some important non-HOF Negro Leaguers made it onto cards in spite of only playing one season in Cuba. Dobie Moore has 3 cards. Heavy Johnson has a card. Edgar Wesley has 2 cards. Buck O'Neil was only there one year but made it onto 2 cards. It was all a matter of timing. If you were there for the 1923-24 season or the 1946-47 season, you had a good chance of having a card. -Ryan P.S. Since I mentioned a Mr. Mackey (Biz) in my post I thought I should also let you know that Professor Chaos is a character from South Park. Actually, it's more of an alter-ego of a character.

Cards of Satchel Paige in Negro Leagues

Posted By: peter chaoRyan, Thanks for all the info, seems like you have a real passion for the history Negro League stars. How about the negro league stars that were just recently inducted into the HOF. Are there cards of those guys. Peter

Cards of Satchel Paige in Negro Leagues

Posted By: fkwPeter, you should take a look at Ryan's site, one of my favorite on the internet. <a href="http://cubanbaseballcards.com" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cubanbaseballcards.com</a> I look at it whenever I have a question on a vintage Cuban card. Some of the rarest and most desired cards are from these issues.

Cards of Satchel Paige in Negro Leagues

Posted By: Ryan ChristoffPeter, Of the 12 players recently inducted, 7 have cards. There were 17 total inductees, but the other five weren't players. New HOFers that have cards: Raymond Brown Willard Brown Andy Cooper Pete Hill Biz Mackey Jose Mendez Cristobal Torriente Here's a link to a list of all 39 candidates that were on the HOF ballot and their cards: <a href="http://www.cubanbaseballcards.com/NegroHOFballot.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.cubanbaseballcards.com/NegroHOFballot.html</a> -Ryan

Cards of Satchel Paige in Negro Leagues

Posted By: peter chaoRyan, Great website, thanks for all the info. Now you got me interested...<img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> Peter