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Archive 07-13-2008 10:49 AM

Guess the grade.....E122
 
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I picked this up not too long ago and will be sending it into SGC tomorrow to be graded....Just curious what ya'll think the grade will be? I have under $100 into it and don't think it's trimmed...but what do you think?<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1215967739.JPG">

Archive 07-13-2008 10:50 AM

Guess the grade.....E122
 
Posted By: <b>Matt</b><p>Leon - nice card. Maybe it's just the scan, but the left and right edges appear wavy.

Archive 07-13-2008 10:55 AM

Guess the grade.....E122
 
Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Assuming there are no creases, the card looks like an 84, no? Four nice corners.

Archive 07-13-2008 10:58 AM

Guess the grade.....E122
 
Posted By: <b>bruce Dorskind</b><p><br /><br />We have found SCG to be quite difficult with E 121 and E 122<br /><br />We would predict a grade of 80<br /><br />Bruce Dorskind<br />America's Toughest Want List

Archive 07-13-2008 11:01 AM

Guess the grade.....E122
 
Posted By: <b>paulstratton</b><p>AUT or 86.

Archive 07-13-2008 11:03 AM

Guess the grade.....E122
 
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I will be very surprised if it turns out to be trimmed. The scan might make you think there is some sort of wave to a border but I don't see it in person. Note- I have been wrong before......

Archive 07-13-2008 11:08 AM

Guess the grade.....E122
 
Posted By: <b>paulstratton</b><p>It just seems a little thin side to side.

Archive 07-13-2008 11:11 AM

Guess the grade.....E122
 
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Knock on wood and I am going to guess an 86 or 88. I do have the privilege of seeing it in person and with a 6x and there is almost no fuzziness in any corner. I just don't see a waviness or narrowness to the borders either.........but again, I have been wrong before....

Archive 07-13-2008 11:29 AM

Guess the grade.....E122
 
Posted By: <b>Max Weder</b><p>Lines drawn with Photoshop ruler, without adjusting card horizontally<br /><br /><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3278/2664001643_f1e0921e2b_o.jpg">

Archive 07-13-2008 11:29 AM

Guess the grade.....E122
 
Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>It is hard to judge the corners from the scan, but it looks like an 84 or 86, possibly 88 if they are really sharp.<br />Good luck.<br />JimB

Archive 07-13-2008 11:37 AM

Guess the grade.....E122
 
Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>I think it is a nice looking card.<br /><br />I think that SGC would "AUT" it.

Archive 07-13-2008 12:07 PM

Guess the grade.....E122
 
Posted By: <b>paulstratton</b><p>The borders on the Hooper and Wambsganss(the only 2 I could find for reference) in your personal collection look big compared to this McGraw.

Archive 07-13-2008 12:08 PM

Guess the grade.....E122
 
Posted By: <b>Rhett Yeakley</b><p>My guess is authentic, the card might have been cut that way by the factory but my experience with E122's is that that card is too narrow side to side. Here are 3 typical cards from the set...<br /><img src="http://www.starsofthediamond.com/e122burns.JPG"> <img src="http://www.starsofthediamond.com/e122deal.JPG"> <img src="http://www.starsofthediamond.com/e122doak.JPG"><br />-Rhett

Archive 07-13-2008 12:09 PM

Guess the grade.....E122
 
Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>Authentic<br />

Archive 07-13-2008 12:19 PM

Guess the grade.....E122
 
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I agree....but look at your card on the left. That left border is original and wavy as can be and I would bet it's a factory cut....I hope that this is a factory cut on the one I have and SGC labels it with a number.....Also, this did come from outside our little vintage arena so am not worried about it having been trimmed for nefarious reasons. I am told that trimming for deception is easier to do top to bottom...as there is less area to trim. That being said I do know many hobby old timers routinely cut down cards to fit in holders and binders. I guess we shall see...

Archive 07-13-2008 01:16 PM

Guess the grade.....E122
 
Posted By: <b>ali_lapoint</b><p>from the front it doesn't look trimmed. but when you look at the scan of the back it looks really really suspect. i feel like its definitely trimmed. i dont usually see the e122's with such thin borders. if its not trimmed it is a really oddly cut e122.

Archive 07-13-2008 01:52 PM

Guess the grade.....E122
 
Posted By: <b>bigfish</b><p>1st guess is "A"<br />2nd would be an 84

Archive 07-13-2008 02:03 PM

Guess the grade.....E122
 
Posted By: <b>cmoking</b><p>I hope you get an 84 or better...but I'd guess SML - or Authentic if you ask them to slab it no matter what.

Archive 07-13-2008 02:05 PM

Guess the grade.....E122
 
Posted By: <b>Dave S</b><p>Leon..how about I give you $125...you can make a little money, save the SGC fee, and not have to worry about any trimming? Sound like a good idea?

Archive 07-13-2008 02:45 PM

Guess the grade.....E122
 
Posted By: <b>Paul</b><p>If I sent it in, it would grade a 40. Good luck.

Archive 07-13-2008 02:47 PM

Guess the grade.....E122
 
Posted By: <b>peter ullman</b><p>How does it measure...most I've had were oversized...i think it appears scalped...unfortunately...scg A...unless you know someone!

Archive 07-13-2008 03:36 PM

Guess the grade.....E122
 
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Gem authentic.

Archive 07-13-2008 03:46 PM

Guess the grade.....E122
 
Posted By: <b>ken McMillan</b><p>sgc 60 ... what is the prize if the guess is right? <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />kmac

Archive 07-13-2008 04:26 PM

Guess the grade.....E122
 
Posted By: <b>Rob D.</b><p>$902.84<br /><br />Thanks for the contest, Leon.

Archive 07-13-2008 05:06 PM

Guess the grade.....E122
 
Posted By: <b>Steve Murray</b><p>AUTH

Archive 07-14-2008 08:43 AM

Guess the grade.....E122
 
Posted By: <b>dan mckee</b><p>If I submit it, authentic. If Leon submits it, EX+.

Archive 07-14-2008 08:48 AM

Guess the grade.....E122
 
Posted By: <b>Tim</b><p>90% A, 8% 80, 1.5% 84, .5% 86.<br />

Archive 07-14-2008 12:31 PM

Guess the grade.....E122
 
Posted By: <b>T206Collector</b><p>AUT (95%) or 80 (5%)<br /><br><br>_ <u> </u> _ <u> </u> _ <u> </u> _ <u> </u> _ <u> </u> _ <u> </u> _ _ <br /><br />Visit <a href="http://www.t206collector.com" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.t206collector.com</a> for signed deadball card galleries, articles and more!

Archive 07-14-2008 12:37 PM

Guess the grade.....E122
 
Posted By: <b>boxingcardman</b><p>IMO too narrow even w/the "natural" variations in the set. <br><br>Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc


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