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Hake's Auctions 02-27-2015 12:26 PM

Hake's Auction #214 Now Online Negro & Cuban League Rarities, MLB Stars & Much More
 
Hake’s Americana & Collectibles Auction #214 Now Online And Open For Bidding at www.hakes.com.

The auction closes March 17-19, 2015. In addition to baseball items, there are vintage collectibles in over 200 collecting categories, with a total of nearly 2,800 items up for bid.

Hake's has been the premier source for Pop Culture and Americana since 1967 and in recent years has offered some of the rarest and most sought after baseball items including those pertaining to the Cuban and Negro Leagues, with many coming from the legendary Richard Merkin Collection. This auction we also have pin-back buttons and other items from the Paul Muchinsky Collection.

One of the true highlights this auction is a copy of the 1907 "HISTORY OF COLORED BASE BALL" BY SOL WHITE. This historically significant publication is one of less than a dozen copies known to exist.

Merkin Collection highlights this auction include:

1907 "MANITOWOC" BASEBALL TEAM REAL PHOTO POSTCARD W/NEGRO LEAGUE STAR GEORGE WILSON.

LEGENDARY NEGRO LEAGUE PLAYER SPOTTSWOOD POLES REAL PHOTO POSTCARD.

NEGRO LEAGUE LEGEND AND HOF MEMBER JUDY JOHNSON REAL PHOTO POSTCARD.

1922-23 HAVANA LIONS CUBAN BASEBALL TEAM PHOTO W/HOF MEMBERS POP LLOYD, DIHIGO & TORRIENTE.

1934 NEW YORK BLACK YANKEES NEGRO LEAGUE TEAM PHOTO.

HOF MEMBER AND NEGRO LEAGUE LEGEND RAYMOND BROWN VERY RARE SIGNED PHOTO.

1937 CIUDAD TRUJILLO TEAM PHOTO WITH FOUR PLAYERS INCLUDING SATCHEL PAIGE.

"SATCHEL PAIGE'S ALL STARS" 1946 TEAM PHOTO WITH NEGRO LEAGUE LEGENDS.

1943 MONTERREY MEXICO TEAM RRPC WITH ROY CAMPANELLA SGC 40 VG 3.

"CIENFUEGOS" 1945-46 CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM PHOTO WITH MARTIN DIHIGO.

1948 MEXICO CITY RED DEVILS (DIABLOS ROJOS) TEAM PHOTO WITH HOF MEMBER LEON DAY.

HOF BROTHERS PAUL & LLOYD WANER SAN FRANCISCO SEALS PRE-ROOKIE NEWS SERVICE PHOTO.

1933 NATIONAL LEAGUE ALL-STAR TEAM PHOTO FOR INAUGURAL GAME.

JOE MEDWICK HOUSTON BUFFALOES PRE-ROOKIE PHOTO.

Other baseball highlights include:

"1904 CUBAN X GIANTS" NEGRO LEAGUE TEAM PHOTO.

1948 HOMESTEAD GRAYS NEGRO LEAGUE TEAM PHOTO WITH HOF MEMBER BUCK LEONARD.

1922 CUBAN STARS (EAST) NEGRO LEAGUE TEAM PHOTO WITH OMS & HOF MEMBER POMPEZ.

"NEGRO LEAGUE DOUBLE-HEADER" SCORE CARD FEATURING HOF MEMBERS SATCHEL PAIGE & JOSH GIBSON.

CY YOUNG SIGNED ALBERTYPE BASEBALL HALL OF FAME POSTCARD.

"1905 LE BIJOU" OHIO WESLEYAN YEARBOOK WITH BRANCH RICKEY & BLACK BALLPLAYER CHARLES THOMAS.

DOMED BASEBALL TABS FROM 1930s COMPLETE ONLY KNOWN SET OF 24 TEAMS.

HOF MEMBER AND NEGRO LEAGUE LEGEND EFFA MANLEY NEWS SERVICE PHOTO.

“HERALD AND EXAMINER BABE RUTH CLUB” RARE 1930s NEWSPAPER CLUB BUTTON.

1909 PITTSBURGH PIRATES "NATIONAL LEAGUE CHAMPIONS" FRAMED PANORAMIC POSTCARD.

RARE AND UNUSUAL BADGE READING “PRESS/1943/ST. LOUIS.”

COMPLETE 1950s SET OF PREMIUM BUTTONS FROM AMERICAN NUT & CHOCOLATE.

“CLEVELAND INDIANS 1954 AMERICAN LEAGUE CHAMPIONS” SCARCE LARGE TEAM PHOTO BUTTON.

“JOE DiMAGGIO CLUB/BUITONI FOODS CORP.” SCARCE LITHO PORTRAIT BUTTON.

1939-46 EXHIBITS LOU GEHRIG SGC 50 VG/EX 4.

"YORK AREA SPORTS NIGHT" MULTI-SIGNED PROGRAM LOT INCLUDING ROBERTO CLEMENTE.

NEGRO & CUBAN LEAGUE PITCHING STAR JUAN PADRON PHOTO.

JACK DAVIS FRAMED FULL COLOR ORIGINAL ART WITH VARIOUS BASEBALL STARS.

NEGRO LEAGUE LEGENDS MULTI-SIGNED FIRST DAY COVER.

1947 BOND BREAD PREMIUM JACKIE ROBINSON PORTRAIT SGC 30 GOOD 2.

1947 BOND BREAD PREMIUM JACKIE ROBINSON AWAITING PITCH SGC 10 POOR 1.

CLEVELAND INDIANS GIBBS-CONNOR "CHIEF WAHOO" 1954 SEASON BANK.

CLEVELAND INDIANS GIBBS-CONNOR "CHIEF WAHOO" WALL PLAQUE & MATCHSTICK HOLDER.

"AURORA GREAT MOMENTS IN SPORTS - BABE RUTH" MODEL KIT.

AURORA "BABE RUTH" POSITIVE PRINTERS FILM FOR BOX ARTWORK.

1951 BOWMAN WILLIE MAYS ROOKIE HIGH NUMBER SGC 30 GOOD 2.

1947-66 EXHIBITS BASEBALL CARD LOT OF 64 W/5 SGC GRADED.

SANDY KOUFAX SIGNED "LIFE" MAGAZINE.

THURMAN MUNSON & MONTE IRVIN SIGNED CARD.

GEORGE SOSNAK "ST. LOUIS CARDINALS" FOLK ART BASEBALL.

GEORGE SOSNAK "HANK AARON - HANK HAMMERS 715th" FOLK ART ENVELOPE.

GARTLAN DEALER'S DISPLAY SHOWCASE WITH LOT OF TEN SPORTS COLLECTIBLES.

This is just a sampling of the baseball material offered in this auction, and in addition to this, there are items for other sports, non-sport gum card & related and so much more.

Every Hake’s auction covers the widest range of Pop Culture and Americana offered at a single time by any auction house.

Contact Heather for a complimentary copy of the 400 page full color catalog at 866-404-9800 ext. 1612.

The auction is now online and open for bidding at www.hakes.com and closes March 17-19, 2015.

Leon 02-27-2015 12:30 PM

Good luck Alex and team. Another great showing!!

Leon 03-14-2015 07:37 AM

A friendly bump for a valued advertiser.......Good luck Alex and team!!

bmarlowe1 03-14-2015 10:12 AM

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See item 889
http://www.hakes.com/item.asp?Auction=214&ItemNo=141400

The description says, "The prominent figure on this item is James Leslie Wilkinson who stands at center of the back row wearing suit and hat"

Unfortunately they continue to perpetuate the myth that the man below right is J. L. Wilkinson. He is not. The real Wilkinson c1910 appears below left.

Leon 03-14-2015 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bmarlowe1 (Post 1390302)
See item 889
http://www.hakes.com/item.asp?Auction=214&ItemNo=141400

The description says, "The prominent figure on this item is James Leslie Wilkinson who stands at center of the back row wearing suit and hat"

Unfortunately they continue to perpetuate the myth that the man below right is J. L. Wilkinson. He is not. The real Wilkinson c1910 appears below left.

Do you have any idea where the myth started, Mark? From a layperson's view I can see some similarities, but I will leave it to you guys that do this stuff all of the time for the best id. At the price the postcard is at right now, it's not that bad of a buy as a completely generic, old and interesting baseball team...

bmarlowe1 03-14-2015 10:54 AM

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Leon - I sometimes do find out where these things start, but in this case I don't know. It's usually either wishful thinking or someone wanting to make a few extra bucks (or some of both). I agree it's still a nice item. As for price, I'm not an expert on that.

The real Wilkinson had almost no cupids bow at the bottom of his philtrum. The guy in question has a deep and very distinct cupids bow. Also the left (viewer's right) ear and nose do not look right.

I've included another c1910 image of Wilkinson below left. When you have photos of the same person, it's usually obvious right away and you don't have to look too hard for similarities.

I should add that I had contacted them privately about this and received no response.

GoldenAge50s 03-14-2015 12:50 PM

Hake's seems very reluctant to change once they list something.

A few auctions ago they had mis-identified a couple of players on some '50's gum machine charms & had no identities on a couple of others.

I wrote a nice EM, told them I had been studying & collecting these charms since childhood, corrected the ID's for them and received a reply that they appreciated my info & would indeed correct the listing.

They never did.

FirstYearCards 03-14-2015 01:01 PM

Instead of trying to prove who it isn't, is it possible to prove who it is?

bmarlowe1 03-14-2015 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by FirstYearCards (Post 1390360)
Instead of trying to prove who it isn't, is it possible to prove who it is?

What's important is that it is claimed to be an early image of a HoFer, which it is not. Why should one have to first or instead prove who it is?

In any case, go ahead.

Huysmans 03-14-2015 03:52 PM

There's some great items.

FirstYearCards 03-14-2015 11:15 PM

In full disclosure I do own one of these cards. That being said, I couldn't care less about proving or disproving the man's identity. However, if auction houses and grading companies say it is while Mark says it isn't, I should think a little more research into who the man is should be added to claims that most people/companies have it wrong.

Jaybird 03-14-2015 11:29 PM

I've never thought it was hin either. So add one more to the list.

bmarlowe1 03-14-2015 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FirstYearCards (Post 1390513)
In full disclosure I do own one of these cards. That being said, I couldn't care less about proving or disproving the man's identity. However, if auction houses and grading companies say it is while Mark says it isn't, I should think a little more research into who the man is should be added to claims that most people/companies have it wrong.

>> However, if auction houses and grading companies say it is

While the situation may have improved a bit, they have been shown many times to have essentially no idea as to how to identify faces in photos (most will actually now admit that), and likely no auction house or grading company that has represented this image as depicting Wilkinson would be able to tell you where the ID came from. I have shown that I at least have some notion as to how to do this. If there is a significant facial feature mismatch then it is not him.

It is probably not knowable who this really is. That does not change him into Wilkinson.

This has been discussed here before: http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=169714

slidekellyslide 03-15-2015 08:26 AM

I was doing research on some Schmeltzer Sporting Goods baseball player real photo postcards I had come across when I had found they had a link with JL Wilkinson....I started doing more research on Wilkinson and learned that he got his start in the sporting goods industry with Hopkins bros out of Des Moines the article I found mentioned Wilkinson managing a women's team for the store. I had seen numerous postcards of this team through my years of collecting barnstorming team postcards. I found mine and started doing my own "facial recognition" between the postcard and known photos of Wilkinson. I'm no expert like Mark is, and Mark wasn't even around this forum at the time of this discovery. So I guess I am to blame for the auction houses using this info and running with it. I still am not convinced that it's not him, but I also don't want to say that I 100% believe that it is him. More research needs to be done on this team, I gotta believe that some research with old Des Moines newspapers would bring up more info and possibly some photos. I'm actually somewhat surprised that more research hasn't already been done since he got elected to the Hall of Fame.

bmarlowe1 03-15-2015 09:40 PM

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Yes, the original 2007 discussion can be found here:
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=87984

Below I compare the 2 versions of the face in question that I have (RPPC left, dot matrix print center), both giving a pretty good sense of the shape of this guy's visible ear.

Comparing these to a Wilkinson exemplar taken at virtually the same angle (far right) the difference in ear shape as seen from the front, the amount that he ear sticks out and the angle of the ear with respect to the head is clear and substantial. It is essentially impossible for this guy to be Wilkinson.

There's another facial thing that is equally damning to the Wilkinson claim, but I'll save it for a future article.

bmarlowe1 06-16-2015 08:32 AM

Definitive article, I think, about this image (by me) can be found here on page 13:

http://sabr.box.com/shared/static/k4...vdy9f8uod7.pdf

slidekellyslide 06-16-2015 09:55 PM

Good read Mark, it's a tough pill for me to swallow but I accept your research.....Hopkins Bros was a sporting goods company though and not a furniture company.

Jeff_cvc 06-16-2015 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bmarlowe1 (Post 1421817)
Definitive article, I think, about this image (by me) can be found here on page 13:

http://sabr.box.com/shared/static/k4...vdy9f8uod7.pdf

Wow, really incredible and interesting research, thank you for sharing.

bwbc917 06-17-2015 08:43 AM

Wow
 
Fantastic research and analysis. Great job.

triwak 06-17-2015 09:38 AM

Great. I was one of the first guinea pigs who forked out $400 for this postcard, after the initial thread. And in other news, my prized 1978 bicycle was stolen, this past Saturday night. It's been a fun-filled week. :mad:

bmarlowe1 06-17-2015 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by triwak (Post 1422234)
Great. I was one of the first guinea pigs who forked out $400 for this postcard, after the initial thread. And in other news, my prized 1978 bicycle was stolen, this past Saturday night. It's been a fun-filled week. :mad:

Sorry to hear about that Ken. I guess that mean you won't be able to do this with the postcard :):


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