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brewing 07-09-2020 08:51 AM

Topps cards with player on wrong team
 
I noticed this 1980 Topps Dock Ellis which shows him as a member of the Mets. Ellis went to the Pirates in Sept 1979 and appeared in a few games with them.

So he should be a Pirate in the 1980 set. Are there others like this?

https://www.baseball-reference.com/p...llisdo01.shtml

https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=28560

ALR-bishop 07-09-2020 12:26 PM

A lot of the Topps Traded or Update sets have depicted players on their new teams compared to the card in the base set

This one got corrected before publication :-}

https://oi1267.photobucket.com/album...539/img088.jpg

paul 07-09-2020 04:29 PM

I guess Topps finalized the front of the Dock Ellis card even before the previous season ended. I remember there being another card like that. Maybe the 1980 Richie Zisk? Regardless, it was pretty lame of Topps to be so lazy.

paul 07-09-2020 04:30 PM

OK. It wasn't Richie Zisk, but there is another one out there.

Republicaninmass 07-09-2020 05:29 PM

Didnt the 1980 cards come out Sept of 79?

I always thought it was the fall of the prior year

mortimer brewster 07-10-2020 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paul (Post 1997524)
I guess Topps finalized the front of the Dock Ellis card even before the previous season ended. I remember there being another card like that. Maybe the 1980 Richie Zisk? Regardless, it was pretty lame of Topps to be so lazy.

Topps was very lazy. The text on the backs of the 1980 cards gave season highlights for the 1978 season for nearly all of the players. It's like 1979 did not exist. Competition from other companies was welcome in 1981.

Rich Klein 07-11-2020 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Republicaninmass (Post 1997552)
Didnt the 1980 cards come out Sept of 79?

I always thought it was the fall of the prior year

It took till the 21st century -- maybe 2003 or 4 for the next year Topps cards to come out in the fall. Circa 1980 you had to wait till March for the release for the most part IIRC.

Rich

nwobhm 07-13-2020 02:13 PM

Do team cards count?

brewing 07-13-2020 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nwobhm (Post 1998482)
Do team cards count?

Not really because team photos can be taken at any point in the year.

I'm really interested to see if any other players finished the season with one team and is shown as a member of their previous team such as the Dock Ellis example.

Can he really be the only one?

paul 07-13-2020 06:53 PM

I knew there was another. It's the 1980 Topps Ralph Garr. The front lists him with the White Sox, but the back shows his stats from 1979 with the Angels. O-Pee-Chee correctecd the error.

cardinalcollector 07-13-2020 06:54 PM

1988 Doug DeCinces shown as an Angel after ending season with Cardinals. Topps, Sportflics, and Score has him as an Angel, only Fleer got it right.

https://www.comc.com/Cards,so,i100,=1988+doug+decinces

seanofjapan 07-13-2020 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cardinalcollector (Post 1998599)
1988 Doug DeCinces shown as an Angel after ending season with Cardinals. Topps, Sportflics, and Score has him as an Angel, only Fleer got it right.

https://www.comc.com/Cards,so,i100,=1988+doug+decinces

Actually this is the only 1988 card of Decinces showing him with the correct team:
https://baseballcardsinjapan.blogspo...-set-doug.html

brewing 07-14-2020 07:51 AM

The 1988 Topps DeCinces at least states he is "Now with Cardinals".

Ellis isn't in the 1980 OPC set so they couldn't make the correction.

The Garr and DeCinces have a statement under the stat box stating date acquired instead of in the bio block. Ellis' acquisition appears only in his bio block.

Is it safe to say that Topps would build the card fronts before the previous season ended? It appears they had the design then too.

Any more occurrences?

nwobhm 07-14-2020 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brewing (Post 1998502)
Not really because team photos can be taken at any point in the year.

How about if the team pic was taken many years apart? How about the same player pictured on 2 team cards in a year where they play for niether team? How about a team card that the player was no longer in MLB for a couple seasons yet appears on a team card?

brewing 07-14-2020 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nwobhm (Post 1998747)
How about if the team pic was taken many years apart? How about the same player pictured on 2 team cards in a year where they play for niether team? How about a team card that the player was no longer in MLB for a couple seasons yet appears on a team card?

Not really looking at those, just their base card.

I'm curious though, what do you have?


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