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martyesullivan 09-02-2020 11:41 AM

My Signed 1933 Goudey Collection - Any Uncle Jimmy Collection Winners Here?
 
For almost a decade I have been picking up signed 1933 Goudey cards and currently have 198 different autographed cards from the 239 card set. Like many, I was thrilled to hear about the Uncle Jimmy Collection and was fortunate to acquire 7 cards of his that I needed last weekend.

I’m trying to reach the 200 mark, and I’ll probably stop searching when I do, it’s just getting too expensive.

That said, I’m just TWO away from my goal! Did anyone on here win any 33’s from his collection? Specifically, I’m looking for the winners of the Jim Bottomley, Pete Jablonowski, Glenn Spencer, Bernie Friberg, and Heinie Manush (107). I was outbid on these and would love to add any two of them to finish off my collection.

If you have any 33's that you're willing to part with, please shoot me a message. I might be interested if it is an upgrade for my collection.

When I started I thought it would be neat to get to 50, and then I eventually got to 100. I thought it would be awesome to get to 125, and then I passed 150. I now hope to get to 200 but who knows, one day I might make it past that number.

I appreciate any leads or help...

Thanks,
Marty S.

martyesullivan@yahoo.com

Republicaninmass 09-02-2020 02:53 PM

Incredible Marty! Congrats on quite a feat. What was the record for signed 33s?

martyesullivan 09-02-2020 03:11 PM

I believe I will be the third person ever to cross the 200 mark.

Jason May got to 224 before he auctioned his collection off. There is another collector I know of that has around 220. So my collection is the second most complete signed set in the country, that I know about. I'm strongly considering writing a book about the set, and my quest to get 200 signed cards from the set. That might be my next project...

Again, thanks to everyone that has reached out! I'm always looking to upgrade if possible. The best way to reach me is via email: martyesullivan@yahoo.com

My best,
Marty S.

oldeboo 09-02-2020 03:26 PM

Amazing accomplishment and I bet you have a ton of knowledge about those players as you have learned so much about them due to the different rarity of signatures. A book detailing all of that would be interesting. Just a quick scan revealed one of the rarities, Cliff Heathcote. According to his Wiki page, he was out of the big leagues in 1932 and passed away at the young age of 40 in 1939. I'm sure the stories like that could go on and on, in great detail. There's probably a handful of signatures on 1933 Goudey cards that just don't exist and never did. Of course the Lajoie would go for silly money if one even exists? I doubt you stop at 200 by the way :)

martyesullivan 09-02-2020 03:35 PM

Funny you mentioned Heathcoate. I have his card signed, along with Earl Clark, he was the first to pass away from the set. Both of these are very special to me. Indeed, lots of great stories and many players that people have over looked.

I visited the grave of Lon Warneke just last week. He's another one that deserves more praise!

My best,
Marty S.

riggs336 09-02-2020 04:41 PM

Inspiring. There so many true collectors here.

milkit1 09-02-2020 04:42 PM

excellent pickups! I had about 213 different before I sold them off. Starting collecting them in 1988 and I think at one time I had 22 signed Willis Hudlins lol
Here is an article Bob Lehmke did regarding my collection about 10 years ago http://boblemke.blogspot.com/2009/08...-70-years.html
your goal of 200 is very attainable. Keep up the good fight :)

martyesullivan 09-02-2020 04:53 PM

Thanks, Sean!
I didn't realize you cracked 200! That's impressive! I know I have many of your old cards. I treasure them!

Well, I guess that makes me the 4th to ever crack 200! :)

My best,
Marty S.

Tyruscobb 09-02-2020 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by milkit1 (Post 2014166)
excellent pickups! I had about 213 different before I sold them off. Starting collecting them in 1988 and I think at one time I had 22 signed Willis Hudlins lol
Here is an article Bob Lehmke did regarding my collection about 10 years ago http://boblemke.blogspot.com/2009/08...-70-years.html
your goal of 200 is very attainable. Keep up the good fight :)

Sean, Do you still think about those autographed Ruth cards that you passed up? Wow - assuming the cards were in good shape, the autographs crisp, and, oh yeah, real!

milkit1 09-02-2020 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by martyesullivan (Post 2014170)
Thanks, Sean!
I didn't realize you cracked 200! That's impressive! I know I have many of your old cards. I treasure them!

Well, I guess that makes me the 4th to ever crack 200! :)

My best,
Marty S.

For sure! Its a rare club :)

milkit1 09-02-2020 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyruscobb (Post 2014174)
Sean, Do you still think about those autographed Ruth cards that you passed up? Wow - assuming the cards were in good shape, the autographs crisp, and, oh yeah, real!

Yeah I am surprised I dont have nightmares lol That 1989 National was a goldmine! I can remember a dealer in St. Louis when I was really young that had a book FULL of signed pre war cards. THATS the one I think about often cause the second I started collecting them I never saw that dealer again

martyesullivan 09-02-2020 05:39 PM

By the way, I own the George Davis from the link you posted. It's another one of my favorites.

My best,
Marty S.

milkit1 09-02-2020 06:00 PM

cool! I wonder who has the Bengough?

Republicaninmass 09-02-2020 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by milkit1 (Post 2014193)
cool! I wonder who has the Bengough?

It was on my watchlist, but I blew my wad in REA. What was hammer?

martyesullivan 09-02-2020 06:45 PM

I know the collector that has the Bengough, he's on the East Coast. He paid $6000 for it, so I'm not sure they will be reunited again anytime soon. Maybe one day though!

conor912 09-02-2020 06:57 PM

I had my eye on the Cochrane but that thing went for bonkers money so I don't feel bad.

Republicaninmass 09-02-2020 07:18 PM

Some really strong prices

Lordstan 09-02-2020 07:24 PM

Congrats Marty.
You joined a very exclusive club. As someone who is also collecting a set from that era, i know what an incredible feat of perseverance it truly is. You as well Sean.
I am happy to see all these 33 Goudey collectors. Now just stay away from the 34 set and I'll be happy. Lol


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martyesullivan 09-02-2020 07:34 PM

Thanks, Mark! I've been a fan of your set and have followed your progress for a while. You can't imagine how many times I've found signed 34's on eBay and thought, "That's cool, and cheap, I should get it!" but somehow I've resisted the urge.

Not sure how much longer I can hold out though...maybe I'll go for 50 from 1934...that should be easy! :)

joejo20 09-02-2020 07:41 PM

Wow congrats 200 is very impressive. I wanted to own one of the cards from the collection so I went after one that spoke to me Which was the 1933 Kamm. I think the quality of the autograph and placement is superb. Joe

martyesullivan 09-02-2020 08:01 PM

Joe!
You are correct, that Kamm is a beauty. It would have been a nice upgrade for me but I realized once the auction started that there would be no chance for me to go after upgrades. I had to focus on the few that I really needed. That said, we are all just caretakers of these cards, so whenever you're ready to part with Kamm, let me know. If I'm still in the game, I'd love to have it.

All the best to you and congrats on the great pickup!

Marty S.

joejo20 09-02-2020 08:29 PM

Thank you. I am excited to see it in hand soon. Joe

TakingStock 09-02-2020 09:44 PM

I picked up the Bing Miller and just love the colors and how they pop on the card. Growing up I had a reprint of that card (along with others) from a Bert Sugar book of reproduction baseball cards of American League stars on a door in my childhood room and I had to have the Miller. Can’t wait to get it in hand!

martyesullivan 09-02-2020 09:53 PM

Yes! That Bing Miller is sharp and crisp! I have a nice one but the one you now own is a beauty. Enjoy it!

Whenever the time comes for you to part with it, please look me up!

My best,
Marty S.

perezfan 09-02-2020 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by joejo20 (Post 2014245)
Wow congrats 200 is very impressive. I wanted to own one of the cards from the collection so I went after one that spoke to me Which was the 1933 Kamm. I think the quality of the autograph and placement is superb. Joe

I completely agree....

Kamm was my favorite in the entire auction, in terms of the perfect looking autograph and overall aesthetics. If I hadn't blown my wad earlier in the month, I might have given you a run for the money.

Congrats!

joejo20 09-03-2020 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 2014295)
I completely agree....

Kamm was my favorite in the entire auction, in terms of the perfect looking autograph and overall aesthetics. If I hadn't blown my wad earlier in the month, I might have given you a run for the money.

Congrats!

Thank you. I feel validated :) Joe

Lordstan 09-03-2020 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by martyesullivan (Post 2014240)
Thanks, Mark! I've been a fan of your set and have followed your progress for a while. You can't imagine how many times I've found signed 34's on eBay and thought, "That's cool, and cheap, I should get it!" but somehow I've resisted the urge.



Not sure how much longer I can hold out though...maybe I'll go for 50 from 1934...that should be easy! :)

Marty,
Thanks for the kind words.
You have my official permission to buy 34 goudeys as long as you dont buy any i need or bid against me in any auctions. Lol
Actually getting to 50 should not be that difficult. There are a fair amount of common players both HOF and Non that are readily available. I might have a couple dupes if you want.
Good luck if you try.
Best,
Mark


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Republicaninmass 09-03-2020 04:14 PM

Although I'm close on the 52 topps, 407 still seems a long way away. It seems like years ago, getting to 200 seemed impossible. Needless to say, I wont be doing any prewar signed sets!

slantycouch 09-03-2020 09:03 PM

Amazing work, Marty!

Thanks in part to Sean I was close to 100 when I threw in the towel and sold them off.

I will always love seeing signed '33 Goudeys though! Great set.

T206Collector 09-03-2020 09:57 PM

Jack Quinn
 
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I picked up the Jack Quinn. Tough signature on a card for a guy who was the only player active when his card was issued both in T206 and 1933 Goudey. It was also a card Jason May never got, largely because Quinn died in 1946.

Probably never gonna see a signed T206 Quinn, so I make up other rules to get the signatures of T206 players on any card from their playing days.

And, for the record, I have 41 different signed T206 poses. I’ll likely never get to 50. I’ve only identified a total of 57 in existence.

Hot Springs Bathers 09-04-2020 06:58 AM

Marty I wish I had known you were in Mt. Ida, I am just a short drive away. Would have loved to show you around the old spring training sites in the area.

martyesullivan 09-04-2020 07:51 AM

Paul,
I have Jack Quinn. I actually got it from Jason May, so he had it. If I remember correctly, he uncovered a nice collection out of Texas after he had already submitted his cards to REA. Fortunately, I was able to get many of those.


Mike,
My family has been in Arkansas since the 1820's. I live in Little Rock, so I know all the Hot Springs haunts. We checked out the HOF photo exhibit that is on loan to the Convention Center. Pretty neat. I'm sure our paths will cross one day. I'm a big fan of your research and would love for you to see my collection one day.

My best,
Marty S.
email: martyesullivan@yahoo.com

Baseballcrazy62 09-04-2020 08:28 AM

Marty: Very Very impressive. Isn’t collecting fun (and kind of expensive too)!!

joejo20 09-04-2020 09:36 AM

I am excited mine arrived today and looks great in hand

https://photos.imageevent.com/joejo2...n_20200904.jpg

Lordstan 09-04-2020 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by joejo20 (Post 2014669)
I am excited mine arrived today and looks great in hand

https://photos.imageevent.com/joejo2...n_20200904.jpg

That is a beauty. I was tempted to bid on it as well, but had my sights set on this one...

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hcv123 09-04-2020 04:58 PM

That signature is INSANE!
 
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Originally Posted by joejo20 (Post 2014669)
I am excited mine arrived today and looks great in hand

https://photos.imageevent.com/joejo2...n_20200904.jpg

I don't even care about the card, but am blown away by the signature and understand why you wanted it and others had interest as well. I was watching some of the pirates, but they got a bit out of hand.

ubiqty 09-04-2020 05:29 PM

signed 1933 Goudeys
 
Congrats Marty. You've put together a very nice set. I might be able to help you fill a few holes. You can e-mail me at scottg@accessmfgsys.com.

martyesullivan 09-04-2020 08:04 PM

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My first 5 from the Uncle Jimmy Collection arrived today. Here's my favorite two from those.

1. Dolfo Luque, in my opinion deserves a spot in the Hall of Fame. These cards are super rare, and this is the finest known example. He passed away in Cuba in 1957.

2. George Blaeholder, the man that popularized the slider, passed in 1947. Another toughie.

Lordstan 09-04-2020 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by martyesullivan (Post 2014839)
My first 5 from the Uncle Jimmy Collection arrived today. Here's my favorite two from those.



1. Dolfo Luque, in my opinion deserves a spot in the Hall of Fame. These cards are super rare, and this is the finest known example. He passed away in Cuba in 1957.



2. George Blaeholder, the man that popularized the slider, passed in 1947. Another toughie.

Come on. Dont tease. Show them all. Lol

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scottglevy 09-04-2020 09:06 PM

Marty,

On behalf of my dad (Hank) and I, congrats. I have no doubt that you’ll be at 200 and eventually beyond. It’s such a fun project - maybe one day we will join you in the “200” club!

Best,
Scott

martyesullivan 09-04-2020 09:11 PM

Scott,
Thanks so much! Your father is such a great guy. I have really enjoyed my conversations with him and look forward to meeting you both in person one day!

I hope you make it to the "200 Club" and hopefully I can help you on your journey.

Every good wish,
Marty S.

robertsmithnocure 09-05-2020 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by joejo20 (Post 2014669)
I am excited mine arrived today and looks great in hand

https://photos.imageevent.com/joejo2...n_20200904.jpg

That has to be the best signed card that I have ever seen.

joejo20 09-05-2020 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by robertsmithnocure (Post 2014888)
That has to be the best signed card that I have ever seen.

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Originally Posted by hcv123 (Post 2014790)
I don't even care about the card, but am blown away by the signature and understand why you wanted it and others had interest as well. I was watching some of the pirates, but they got a bit out of hand.

Thanks I agree. He must have had very good coordination. Joe

martyesullivan 09-05-2020 02:10 PM

A few have messaged me and asked for a list of cards I'm looking for, so I thought I'd post it here. If you have any of these, I'd love to hear from you.

Obviously, I'm just two away from 200 but with time, I can see a path to potentially getting 205-210 without completely breaking the bank.

I'm also always interested in upgrading, so if you have any that don't mean much to you, especially if they are from the Uncle Jimmy Collection, shoot me an email at martyesullivan@yahoo.com

Thanks! Here's the list:

1 Benny Bengough
22 Pie Traynor
25 Paul Waner
26 Bill Cissell
29 Jimmie Foxx
31 Tony Lazzeri
38 Fred Brickell
42 Eddie Collins
49 Frankie Frisch
70 Pete Scott
74 Eppa Rixey
79 Red Faber
83 Pete Jablonski
84 Glenn Spencer
88 Russell Rollings
89 Tris Speaker
90 Jess Petty
105 Bernie Friberg
107 Heinie Manush
110 Goose Goslin
124 Earl Whitehill
127 Mel Ott
138 Herb Pennock
154 Jimmie Foxx
158 Moe Berg
171 Charlie Jamieson
173 Roscoe Holm
175 Dan Howley
207 Mel Ott
211 Hack Wilson
229 Arky Vaughan

Lordstan 09-05-2020 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by martyesullivan (Post 2015012)
A few have messaged me and asked for a list of cards I'm looking for, so I thought I'd post it here. If you have any of these, I'd love to hear from you.

Obviously, I'm just two away from 200 but with time, I can see a path to potentially getting 205-210 without completely breaking the bank.

I'm also always interested in upgrading, so if you have any that don't mean much to you, especially if they are from the Uncle Jimmy Collection, shoot me an email at martyesullivan@yahoo.com

Thanks! Here's the list:

1 Benny Bengough
22 Pie Traynor
25 Paul Waner
26 Bill Cissell
29 Jimmie Foxx
31 Tony Lazzeri
38 Fred Brickell
42 Eddie Collins
44 Jim Bottomley
49 Frankie Frisch
70 Pete Scott
74 Eppa Rixey
79 Red Faber
83 Pete Jablonski
84 Glenn Spencer
88 Russell Rollings
89 Tris Speaker
90 Jess Petty
105 Bernie Friberg
107 Heinie Manush
110 Goose Goslin
118 Val Picinich
124 Earl Whitehill
127 Mel Ott
138 Herb Pennock
154 Jimmie Foxx
158 Moe Berg
171 Charlie Jamieson
172 Pinky Hargrave
173 Roscoe Holm
175 Dan Howley
207 Mel Ott
211 Hack Wilson
229 Arky Vaughan

This is why I love this community. Seeing so many reach out to help a fellow collector is inspiring. Good luck in your quest Marty.
Bravo! to all those who reached out to him.

ubiqty 09-11-2020 09:36 AM

signed 1933 Goudeys
 
I was able to pick up 10 of the signed 1933 Goudey cards in the recent Wheatland Auction bringing my total to 227 different. I have the two Dykes variations and two Jablonowski cards - one signed as Pete Jablonowski and one signed as Pete Appleton.

I have never seen an example of #38 Brickell, #70 Scott, #88 Rollings or #175 Howley. Does anyone have one of those or have a scan of one of those or remember having seen one?

skelly423 09-13-2020 01:58 PM

How is that auto only graded an 8?!?! That's the nicest autograph I've ever seen on a baseball card.

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Originally Posted by hcv123 (Post 2014790)
I don't even care about the card, but am blown away by the signature and understand why you wanted it and others had interest as well. I was watching some of the pirates, but they got a bit out of hand.


swarmee 09-13-2020 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by skelly423 (Post 2017365)
How is that auto only graded an 8?!?!

Slight gaps in the tail of the W and 'm' I would guess. They're not grading the attractiveness or fullness of the auto, but looking for little imperfections in the ink.

Lordstan 09-13-2020 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 2017368)
Slight gaps in the tail of the W and 'm' I would guess. They're not grading the attractiveness or fullness of the auto, but looking for little imperfections in the ink.

And this is why i think grading autographs is ridiculous. It's just another thing to separate people from their money by creating artificial rarity. If someone cant tell a strong autograph from a weak one, they should not be collecting autographs.
At least with cards, there are very well established factors like centering, corner/edge wear, surface wear(includes creasing), color registration, and print clarity that factor into the subjective grade. There have never been any such standards for autographs. As far as i am concerned, there is no need for them.

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