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base_ball 04-30-2014 02:09 PM

Judge orders Peter Nash to pay $261,000 in legal fees to Rob Lifson
 
...or, to put it another way, about the cost of five dubious Joe Jackson gamers:

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/ite...ntry-1.1774284

WhenItWasAHobby 04-30-2014 02:38 PM

Congratulations are in order.........


























....... to the lawyers who hauled in $261,000 in legal fees. :(

nolemmings 04-30-2014 04:02 PM

Quote:

Congratulations are in order.........

....... to the lawyers who hauled in $261,000 in legal fees.
You say that like it's a bad thing.:):)

hangman62 04-30-2014 04:42 PM

Nash
 
Just went to You tube and watched that rap video... Pop goes the Weasel... pretty good !

I Only Smoke 4 the Cards 04-30-2014 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nolemmings (Post 1271002)
You say that like it's a bad thing.:):)

I was at a dinner with medical professionals last night. One of the guys found out I was a lawyer. He told me a lawyer's job is to "wreck doctors' lives." I just shook my head.

I Only Smoke 4 the Cards 04-30-2014 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hangman62 (Post 1271016)
Just went to You tube and watched that rap video... Pop goes the Weasel... pretty good !

I had never heard the song (only 27yo). I just listened to it and it cracked me up - my how rap has changed.

atx840 04-30-2014 04:54 PM

This makes me happy.

Runscott 04-30-2014 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Only Smoke 4 the Cards (Post 1271018)
I was at a dinner with medical professionals last night. One of the guys found out I was a lawyer. He told me a lawyer's job is to "wreck doctors' lives." I just shook my head.

What? I'm thinking that bending over (figuratively) patients for 10 minutes of babble after making us wait for 30 minutes in a petri dish of toddlers, probably makes up for their poor little 'wrecked' lives. Plus, I take the bus home and they have a BMW parked beneath the building.

At least when I pay a lawyer I know the rate and I know what I'm getting.

Sorry for that rant, but thanks for giving me the opportunity :)

Runscott 04-30-2014 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atx840 (Post 1271024)
This makes me happy.

It would make me happy too, but he isn't going to pay it. He's been ordered to pay people in the past and nothing's happened. What makes Rob any different from his other victims?

CW 04-30-2014 05:17 PM

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Peter_Spaeth 04-30-2014 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nolemmings (Post 1271002)
You say that like it's a bad thing.:):)

Getting a judgment and collecting on it are two different things, particularly where the fees were expended in efforts to collect on another upaid judgment.

wonkaticket 04-30-2014 05:32 PM

Nothing about this in the breaking news section of Hauls of Blame...oh well I'm sure Peter will post something in the AM.

I'm sure there's a way he can tie this to Barry Halper....

irishdenny 04-30-2014 05:52 PM

What was his Dad thinking?
Taken 50 G's from a Catholic School Fund so Little Peter wouldn't lose his house?
Seems like Little Peter has been a hand full...

His Poor Dad... Seems like a Noble man! Poured his life into that School & then had to step down because of the Sins of his Son!

Glad to see that his Colleges at the School gave him some Grace for what he did...

Are any of the pieces from this story going to be(or have they been?) Auction'd off "from the famous Nash Case"?

Maybe the Boston Championship Pin!?!?

ksabet 04-30-2014 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Only Smoke 4 the Cards (Post 1271018)
I was at a dinner with medical professionals last night. One of the guys found out I was a lawyer. He told me a lawyer's job is to "wreck doctors' lives." I just shook my head.

Are you a malpractice attorney?

Robert_Lifson 04-30-2014 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1271039)
Getting a judgment and collecting on it are two different things, particularly where the fees were expended in efforts to collect on another upaid judgment.

We have been very successful in our collection efforts and will continue pursuing all avenues that we believe will be fruitful. With the help of the courts, I guarantee we will eventually collect every penny! I’m looking at another $2000 check on my desk right now that arrived from the Boston bar today. It really puts a bounce in my step and brightens up my day when I go to the bank to deposit Nash fraud judgment checks.

He’s now down to $328,197.05 minus $2,000 = $326,197.05.

We are very pleased that the judge held Nash responsible for all of our legal fees. Of special note, this includes 100% of the legal fees relating to Ray Nash and Bishop Ford. In addition this includes all the legal fees relating to the fraudulent conveyance case vs Nash’s brother-in-law David Dinallo, the legal fees from Boston (attaching the bar income), all the legal fees in New York pursing bank records, tax returns, wife’s deposition etc, and of course all the legal fees in New Jersey including for depositions and subpoenas etc.

Nash will even be paying for his own arrest warrant! (that is, the legal services that resulted in his arrest warrant being issued, which is still outstanding and in full effect).

It may take a while. But we will collect. And when REA is finished collecting, I will then do whatever I can to help Robert and Lisa Fraser collect their $442,511 (plus interest) fraud judgment against Peter Nash. And if I can be helpful to the IRS, the State of New York, or any other victims, I will certainly try to help them as well.


Sincerely,

Robert Lifson

President

Robert Edward Auctions LLC

www.robertedwardauctions.com

Kenny Cole 04-30-2014 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ksabet (Post 1271062)
Are you a malpractice attorney?

Doesn't matter. You could do wills and trusts and you would get the same statement from most docs. I'm not even sure they like the lawyers who represent them and get them off when they commit egregious malpractice. It is simply ingrained from medical school on. Such is life.

Peter_Spaeth 04-30-2014 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by REA (Post 1271065)
It may take a while. But we will collect. And when REA is finished collecting, I will then do whatever I can to help Robert and Lisa Fraser collect their $442,511 (plus interest) fraud judgment against Peter Nash. And if I can be helpful to the IRS, the State of New York, or any other victims, I will certainly try to help them as well.


www.robertedwardauctions.com

This sounds like an unfortunate development for Robert, if there is now another $250K in front of him? Hopefully the well is deep enough to satisfy all creditors, eventually. The bar in Boston best be selling a lot of drinks.

I Only Smoke 4 the Cards 04-30-2014 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ksabet (Post 1271062)
Are you a malpractice attorney?


No, prosecutor.

Sean 04-30-2014 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenny Cole (Post 1271066)
Doesn't matter. You could do wills and trusts and you would get the same statement from most docs. I'm not even sure they like the lawyers who represent them and get them off when they commit egregious malpractice. It is simply ingrained from medical school on. Such is life.

Support a lawyer: send your kid to Medical School. :D:D

thehoodedcoder 04-30-2014 07:36 PM

Couldn't you assume ownership of the bar and sell it?

Kevin

Robert_Lifson 04-30-2014 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1271069)
This sounds like an unfortunate development for Robert, if there is now another $250K in front of him? Hopefully the well is deep enough to satisfy all creditors, eventually. The bar in Boston best be selling a lot of drinks.

Hi Peter! The legal fees are not a surprise to Robert and Lisa Fraser and they are well aware that our efforts have helped them. The judge’s order specifically instructed us to have the court address legal fees when we were ready. Would it have been better for the Frasers if REA had not been awarded our legal fees? Perhaps. (I see what you are saying). But we were due these fees, and without incurring them (and the resulting benefits), the Frasers would be further away from the day they could start collecting. Under the circumstances of this case, legal fees were always likely to be awarded to some extent. The Frasers were well aware of this and will benefit. Also, perhaps most important: we believe the well is deep enough.

Sincerely,

Robert Lifson

President

Robert Edward Auctions LLC

www.robertedwardauctions.com

Peter_Spaeth 04-30-2014 07:42 PM

Rob, I understand that you are entitled to your legal fees and that since they relate to your judgment which has priority over Robert's they tack on to that judgment. I was not suggesting any unfairness or surprise, just musing in light of Robert's many posts recently that he is now in fact -- as you acknowledge -- even further behind than he was.

Peter_Spaeth 04-30-2014 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thehoodedcoder (Post 1271077)
Couldn't you assume ownership of the bar and sell it?

Kevin

Nash doesn't own the bar, just an interest in it.

sago 04-30-2014 07:45 PM

And somewhere, Herbie Buck sheds a tear, and shakes a fist at the heavens, over the injustice of it all.

Rich Klein 04-30-2014 08:18 PM

I guess it's time for this "milquetoast" to ask Peter Nash some questions for an interview.

CW 04-30-2014 08:57 PM

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nolemmings 04-30-2014 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1271039)
Getting a judgment and collecting on it are two different things, particularly where the fees were expended in efforts to collect on another upaid judgment.

Really?--thanks for that pearl of wisdom.

Peter_Spaeth 04-30-2014 09:21 PM

Have another beer, Todd. :)

Sean1125 04-30-2014 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1271112)
Have another beer, Todd. :)

I was really hoping for permission. :mad::mad:

WhenItWasAHobby 05-01-2014 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Only Smoke 4 the Cards (Post 1271018)
I was at a dinner with medical professionals last night. One of the guys found out I was a lawyer. He told me a lawyer's job is to "wreck doctors' lives." I just shook my head.

If only that was true for "card doctors". :rolleyes:

ksabet 05-01-2014 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Only Smoke 4 the Cards (Post 1271072)
No, prosecutor.

Sorry I was being silly. I just pictured a bunch of docs sitting around complaining about lawyers in front of a malpractice attorney while said attorney laughs all the way to the bank.

Coming from a family of dentists and Doctors I have seen both sides. That is why I encourage an MD/JD track to my kids. Why not be both?

I Only Smoke 4 the Cards 05-01-2014 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ksabet (Post 1271178)
Sorry I was being silly. I just pictured a bunch of docs sitting around complaining about lawyers in front of a malpractice attorney while said attorney laughs all the way to the bank.



Coming from a family of dentists and Doctors I have seen both sides. That is why I encourage an MD/JD track to my kids. Why not be both?


I would advise against it. One of my wife's friend is doing it and her debt is ridiculous. Also, becoming a MD is such a long process do you really want to add on for a JD?

Peter_Spaeth 05-01-2014 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Only Smoke 4 the Cards (Post 1271373)
I would advise against it. One of my wife's friend is doing it and her debt is ridiculous. Also, becoming a MD is such a long process do you really want to add on for a JD?

The cost of law school is probably less than the cost of hiring a good lawyer to defend a malpractice case, so it could pay for itself. :D

JeremyW 05-01-2014 05:08 PM

I'd really like to see Robert & Lisa get some of their money back.

Peter_Spaeth 05-01-2014 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeremyW (Post 1271385)
I'd really like to see Robert & Lisa get some of their money back.

Unless Rob's judgment which has priority and now is 262k more is being paid from additional sources beyond the $2k monthly check from the bar, that day is a long way off it seems.

JeremyW 05-01-2014 06:21 PM

Sad, but true. Very sad.

slidekellyslide 05-01-2014 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sago (Post 1271084)
And somewhere, Herbie Buck sheds a tear, and shakes a fist at the heavens, over the injustice of it all.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Ain't that the truth. :D

Kenny Cole 05-01-2014 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1271383)
The cost of law school is probably less than the cost of hiring a good lawyer to defend a malpractice case, so it could pay for itself. :D

I saw the smile Peter, but I will still say that the lawyer who represents him/herself has a fool for a client. I also think that dabblers in two professions are generally at a disadvantage both ways. Moreover, IMO, MD/JD's most often end up being expert witnesses in med mal cases, don't generally practice, and are hated by their MD peers. My suggestion would be pick one or the other unless the objective is to stay in school forever and not actually ever
work.

scooter729 07-02-2014 09:01 AM

Looks like our old friend Mr. Nash has another suitor in line - $13K in back taxes this time!

Linky

4815162342 07-02-2014 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scooter729 (Post 1293447)
Looks like our old friend Mr. Nash has another suitor in line - $13K in back taxes this time!

Linky

I think that my web browser has a caching problem. I refreshed haulsofshame.com several times but this article still isn't listed.

Paul S 07-02-2014 10:05 AM

Yeah, Happy Collecting From Him
 
Linky works for me - I just had to get past the Nursing Degree Online adverts. Honestly, would you go to a hospital that graduates a nurse that way? Sort of ironic that Nash shares the same webpage.

wonkaticket 07-02-2014 11:45 AM

http://wnyt.com/article/12415/?vid=5203718&v=1

<iframe frameborder="0" scrolling="no" src="http://eplayer.clipsyndicate.com/embed/iframe?aspect_ratio=16x9&auto_next=0&auto_start=0& page_count=6&pf_id=8648&pl_id=17047&rel=3&show_tit le=0&tags=default&va_id=5203718&volume=8&windows=1 " width="425" height="330"></iframe>

slipk1068 07-02-2014 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4815162342 (Post 1293448)
I think that my web browser has a caching problem. I refreshed haulsofshame.com several times but this article still isn't listed.

lolololol :)

edjs 07-02-2014 12:38 PM

I have only been seriously collecting for 6 months, so I really don't know much of the past involving this guy. I have read enough, though, to be able to say it is very ironic that he was a rapper for 3rd Bass, and sang "Pop Goes the Weasel." Collecting vintage cards just keeps getting weirder and weirder.

slidekellyslide 07-02-2014 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wonkaticket (Post 1293490)
http://wnyt.com/article/12415/?vid=5203718&v=1

<iframe frameborder="0" scrolling="no" src="http://eplayer.clipsyndicate.com/embed/iframe?aspect_ratio=16x9&auto_next=0&auto_start=0& page_count=6&pf_id=8648&pl_id=17047&rel=3&show_tit le=0&tags=default&va_id=5203718&volume=8&windows=1 " width="425" height="330"></iframe>

He should probably go see a doctor to get that pink eye cleared up.

JakeStahl'sGloveSHows 07-02-2014 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Only Smoke 4 the Cards (Post 1271018)
I was at a dinner with medical professionals last night. One of the guys found out I was a lawyer. He told me a lawyer's job is to "wreck doctors' lives." I just shook my head.

Were you shaking your head up and down or sideways? :)

WhenItWasAHobby 07-03-2014 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jakestahl'sgloveshows (Post 1293707)
were you shaking your head up and down or sideways? :)

lol!


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