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T206 Hoard Carolina Brights Auction is Live!
Link to graded cards (T206's, N172's, T201's)
Link to Central Mass Auctions Wbsite for Live auction https://www.liveauctioneers.com/cata...1&pageSize=120 Hello, my name is Jeff Weisenberg of National Card Investors. I have been on Net54 since 2009. I have been in the sports cards and collectibles business since my days at Rotman Collectibles in 1978. I love this site and feel it is a great connection between collectors, dealers and a combination of both. Over the years I have been able to have purchased some incredible things. I am not sure anything will compare to the last few weeks. 3 weeks ago (During national week) I along with my partners Boca Cards and National Artifacts purchased an original owner collection of 1000+ T206's. This incredible collection included 16! Ty Cobbs, 16 Nap Lajoie’s, 150 Hall of Famers, 60+ Old Mill Southern Leaguers and the Magie error. The entire collection was graded by SGC and is now in the hands of Heritage Auctions as they will be auctioning it for us. As amazing as that was, just 2 weeks later, a friend that runs auctions on live auctioneers stopped in my office. I help him whenever he gets sports cards and memorabilia with authenticating and lotting the cards. He pulls out a binder that has 250+ T206's and some N172 Old Judges. As I flip the 1st page I notice 2 T206's with Carolina Brights Backs. My mind is now spinning! I just started looking at these cards and already found 2. It turns out there are 54! new to the market Carolina Brights cards. Amazingly 1 of them is a Cobb which was graded today at 1.5 by PSA! Also included were Hall of Famers Bender pitching with trees, Bresnahan with bat, Chance portrait, Eddie Collins, Tris Speaker and Christy Mathewson with dark cap. The rest were commons with some incredibly Low pops! This collection is currently being graded by PSA and I should have grades by the end of the week. These cards will be sold by Central Mass Auctions in the very near future. Along with the incredible T206's Carolina Brights were some amazing Old Judges. All of the Old Judges had 4 pin holes in each (the corners) yet still presented very well in terms of image. Amongst them are John Clarkson End of Pitch, R/Arm Extended, L/Hand on thigh, John Clarkson Bat at ready over R/Shoulder, King Kelly Portrait, Bare head, Chicago on shirt. All of these are at PSA as well. I will update all of the Net54 members as I get more information. Please feel free to email me with any questions. I will state that NONE of these cards will be for sale privately. All must and will go to auction. Images below: http://www.nationalcardinvestors1.co..._Carolinax.jpghttp://www.nationalcardinvestors1.co...Carolinabx.jpg http://www.nationalcardinvestors1.co..._Carolinax.jpghttp://www.nationalcardinvestors1.co...Carolinabx.jpg http://www.nationalcardinvestors1.co...4/clarkson.jpghttp://www.nationalcardinvestors1.co.../clarksonb.jpg Here I am holding the 16 Cobbs! http://www.nationalcardinvestors1.com/net_54/cobbsx.jpg Here are the 150+ Hall of Famers http://www.nationalcardinvestors1.co...54/hofersx.jpg Here is the Magie http://www.nationalcardinvestors1.com/net_54/magiex.jpg LINK To the N172 Images of all non graded Cards Central Mass Auctions[/COLOR] Thanks, Jeff Weisenberg |
Show the Green Cobbs please!
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54 Carolina Brights.
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That's awesome!
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Dang; this was a National for the ages. Combine that with the Goldin T206 find and there will be a lot of "fresh to market" goodies coming out soon.
Is it possible they were two parts of the same collection? Maybe split up by heirs long ago? |
That CB Speaker is incredible. Congrats and please keep us posted.
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As is said quite a lot on this board. I love learning about new finds in the hobby! Thanks for sharing this with us.
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Dang that's a ton new Carolina Brights!
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It will be interesting to see if there are any new previously unknown CB cards or any other cards that can be added to the T206 master list. Looking forward to seeing what gets listed.
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List of Carolina Brights
Here is a list of all of the cards with Carolina Brights Backs: Thanks, Jeff W
List does not include the hall of famers from the original post. sam strang ollie pickering frank oberlin stoney mcglynn billy nattress jack hannifan hannifin bill lattimore john anderson ira thomas birdie cree jack quinn bill dineen dinneen lee quillen quillin davy jones detroit ted easterly jimmy dygert lou fiene throwing frank arellanes jimmy lavender john ganzel dots miller pittsburg oscar stanage heinie zimmerman jim scott shad barry milwaukee owen wilson donie bush red murray batting john titus moose mccormick chief myers meyers, fielding bill sweeney boston hal chase throwing dark cap jack dunn baltimore deacon phillippe fred burchell lena blackburne |
Nice Green Cobb cards. I like that they are all Piedmont 150...which definitely points to an original collection, as well as that collector being a very loyal smoker.
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This is amazing. Great find.
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Congrats, thanks for sharing the amazing finds.
Full list of OJs would be greatly appreciated. You listed some interesting HOFers but the true scarcities are what really excite the advanced collectors. Thank you and again congrats ! |
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Congratulations on this incredible find! 👍
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Love it
I’ll take the one in the third row down all the way to the right-
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I can see the guy in 1909 opening a pack of smokes and saying “Oh jeez, not another Green Cobb” as he flings it on the pile.
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What an amazing find!!! Congratulations. Thank you for sharing this incredible story.
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N172 List of Playes in this collection
Special not on the following:
Dave Orr is a spotted tie And Fred Pfeffer – Catch Hands above waist Mark Baldwin Pitch-hands neck high California Brown - Bat at Ready Thomas Brown Catch, Hands Cupped Chest High Tom Burns Tagging Runner on Ground Doc Bushong, Brown's Portrait in striped hat-Brown's Champions Bill Bishop Ball in R/Hand Head High Dick Conway Ready to Pitch, Hands Chest High Con Daley Hands on knees Boston Tom Daly Portrait Pat Dealy Bat in R/Hand at Side Sid Farrar - Arms Folded - Bare Head Dave Foutz Portrait in striped hat-Brown's Champions Emil Geiss Bat in R/hand at side Barney Gilligan Hands on Thighs Will Gleason Portrait in Striped Cap Joe Horning (Hornung) Ball in Hands Held Out Neck High Rudy Kemmler Portrait in striped hat-Brown's Champions Arlie Latham Portrait in striped hat-Brown's Champions Joseph Mulvey Strike, Ball Chest High Dave Orr Portrait Billy Nash Portrait Jimmy Peeples Bat on R/shoulder-Brooklyn Fred Pfeffer (2 duplicate cards) Danny Richardson Bat at Ready at 45 Degree Sam Thompson Bat at Ready at 45 Degree Larry Twitchell Pitch, Hands By Chest Chris Von Der Ahe Portrait |
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Incredibly Awesome Jeff!!!!! Thank you for sharing, and the heads up!
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Congrats!!! Enjoy seeing "new find" pics like these but would be good to hear how the seller(s) obtained those cards.
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Thank you for the share. At first glance, these could all be early OJs, 1886-1887. Do they all have the "Old Judge Cigarettes" flying hot dog? While these players are not difficult in comparison to other OJs (exception for the Orr Spotted Tie), there were some later year re-issues that are very tough. For example, Gilligan in 1887 with Washington is common, but 1888 re-issue with Detroit is near impossible. I'm anxious to see them hit the auction block and good luck! |
Wow! just read the article - love seeing some rare backs
Congrats!!! Jimmy |
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It would be fun to know if the 14 non-Hindu SLers are part of this find. |
Carolina Grades!
Here are the 7 PSA graded Caorolina Brights Hall of Famers. Just Back today.
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Man that Speaker looks more and more amazing every time I open the thread
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Oh man, that Matty dark cap is what dreams are made of. That would look great in my Matty back run. :)
Congrats on a great find! |
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Yes, that is a beauty of a card!! |
How is the Chance altered? Obviously an original collection, yet someone altered the card? Even if it was altered, one can assume it wasn't done for monetary gain.
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alterered?
I agree. I do not understand how when a grading company receives 50+ original very rare cards they do not justify how they believe the card was altered. I would love to know as well. Jeff W
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it looks short top to bottom, which may have been how it was cut at the factory.
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Yeah...the Chance is garbage...don't bother bidding on it, b/c with the dreaded "A" designation it's essentially worthless. I'd be willing to take one for the team and bid on it, just so others don't have to. :D
Amazing cards! Bill |
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If T206 was some kind of oddball set, maybe you'd understand them not knowing every detail. But we are talking about one of the most important sets in the hobby, and one they've graded more than a quarter million cards for. Edit > the Bres With Bat also looks short top to bottom and it too was graded A. |
N172 link to all images for auction added
The original post now has a link to the site with all images of the raw N172 cards. Thanks, Jeff W
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Thanks Jeff . . . as speculated, all 1887 OJs (possible 1886 in case of Orr spotted tie). Not a single 1888, 1889, or 1890 card. Seems as though the OJs are an original collection as well from a collector who smoked OJ brand in 1887.
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Maybe he croaked before the 1888 release.
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Carolina Brights grades are finally in!
I will publish pictures as soon as I get the cards back.
1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Jean Dubuc GOOD 2 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Bill Abstein VERY GOOD+ 3.5 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Billy Campbell VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Bill Burns VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Bill Chappelle VERY GOOD+ 3.5 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Josh Clark Clarke, Columbus POOR 1 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Gavvy Cravath VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Frank Delehanty Delahanty-Louisville GOOD 2 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Joe Dunn Brooklyn VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Paul Davidson GOOD+ 2.5 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Moose Grimshaw GOOD+ 2.5 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Steamer Flanagan VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Jimmy Slagle VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Harry Gasper POOR 1 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Nick Maddox VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT+ 4.5 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Jack White Buffalo VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Sam Strang VERY GOOD+ 3.5 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Ollie Pickering VERY GOOD 3 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Frank Oberlin GOOD+ 2.5 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Stoney McGlynn VERY GOOD 3 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Billy Nattress GOOD+ 2.5 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Jack Hannifan Hannifin VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Bill Lattimore POOR 1 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights John Anderson VERY GOOD+ 3.5 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Ira Thomas GOOD 2 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Birdie Cree VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT+ 4.5 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Jack Quinn VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Bill Dineen Dinneen VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Lee Quillen Quillin EXCELLENT 5 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Davy Jones Detroit EXCELLENT 5 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Ted Easterly VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT+ 4.5 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Jimmy Dygert VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT+ 4.5 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Lou Fiene Throwing GOOD+ 2.5 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Frank Arellanes POOR 1 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Jimmy Lavender VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights John Ganzel VERY GOOD+ 3.5 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Dots Miller Pittsburg GOOD 2 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Oscar Stanage POOR 1 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Heinie Zimmerman VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Jim Scott POOR 1 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Shad Barry Milwaukee VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT+ 4.5 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Owen Wilson VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Donie Bush GOOD 2 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Red Murray Batting POOR 1 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights John Titus VERY GOOD 3 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Moose McCormick GOOD 2 MC 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Chief Myers Meyers, Fielding GOOD+ 2.5 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Bill Sweeney Boston VERY GOOD 3 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Hal Chase Throwing Dark Cap GOOD 2 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Jack Dunn Baltimore EXCELLENT 5 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Deacon Phillippe GOOD 2 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Fred Burchell VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 MC 1909-11 T206 Carolina Brights Lena Blackburne VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 Jeff W |
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Interesting that the Chance is altered.... Odd result from a "find", no? |
Yes incredible odd
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That is some kind of find. Congrats!
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New Website Created for images
Look at the original post. 1st line is now a link to the web site with the graded images. Thanks, Jeff W
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Thank you Jeff! Wow- amazing cards! Best of luck! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Auction is Live
There is al ink at the top of the original post to the now Live auction!
Thanks, Jeff W |
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