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Leon 02-19-2020 07:32 AM

Show a Scarce Pre-WWII Type Card
 
I always like collecting type cards. Here are a few....

https://luckeycards.com/pw575leadershotx2.jpg

RCMcKenzie 02-19-2020 08:58 AM

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Here's one...

Snapolit1 02-19-2020 09:24 AM

Stupid question . . .what constitutes a type card? Text on back?

Exhibitman 02-19-2020 09:27 AM

It's like obscenity, Steve: I can't explain it but I know it when I see it.

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...Unc%20Ruth.jpg

Snapolit1 02-19-2020 09:28 AM

Sometimes I need to look at it many times to even form an opinion.

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 1956378)
It's like obscenity, Steve: I can't explain it but I know it when I see it.

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...Unc%20Ruth.jpg


Leon 02-19-2020 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Snapolit1 (Post 1956377)
Stupid question . . .what constitutes a type card? Text on back?

No question is stupid unless I ask it!! Type card is a subjective term. For me, those cards are scarce, a full set is not usually known (maybe 1-2 sets at most), and could be pertaining to back, front or both. That said, cards such as Gypsy Queen (especially large ones), and any other sets that are really rare could classify as a type card for someone. I am not sure there is a definition that is widely accepted. Here is a D382. I consider it a type card especially with the Trophy Sticker.

https://luckeycards.com/d382.jpg

luciobar1980 02-19-2020 09:31 AM

I can sort of imagine, but what is meant by a Type card?

Eggoman 02-19-2020 09:31 AM

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I've posted these before and talking with Leon about them is what got me hooked on NET54!

Here goes!

pkaufman 02-19-2020 09:34 AM

D380
 
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D380 Joss

RCMcKenzie 02-19-2020 09:51 AM

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If you can't remember what the set is called, or there is only one card to the set, it's a type card...

darwinbulldog 02-19-2020 09:59 AM

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Courtesy of the late Bob Lemke

darwinbulldog 02-19-2020 10:19 AM

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Formerly of the Leon Luckey type card collection

nat 02-19-2020 10:22 AM

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Probably not what you had in mind, but here's my contribution.

A Hiroshi Oshita card from the JBR 109 set. As far as I've been able to determine, there are only three of these. (It's the one with the Delong-style illustration.)

And a Sadao Kondo card from an uncatalogued set. Not only have I never seen another copy, I've never seen another card from the set.

There are many vintage Japanese sets, but most of them were produced in very small quantities. A Japanese type collection (something that I've considered but never jumped into) would be a serious challenge.

Edit: Rats. Should have read better. These are from the late 1940s, not pre-WWII.

darwinbulldog 02-19-2020 10:24 AM

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Found in a collection consigned to Adam Wolter's brick and mortar shop in Cincinnati

darwinbulldog 02-19-2020 10:26 AM

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Relic of the Old Putnam railroad line

darwinbulldog 02-19-2020 10:27 AM

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One lukcy pick-up

Snapolit1 02-19-2020 10:51 AM

Sounds like collecting code for "some cool, very rare sh*t you almost never see."

oldjudge 02-19-2020 10:52 AM

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1886 Hancock Clothing Syracuse Stars

gabrinus 02-19-2020 12:04 PM

E96 Davis Cleveland
 
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Here is an E96 Davis blank back with a team change from Philadelphia to Cleveland...I sold it to Keith Olbermann years ago...it is a scan of a scan...Jerry

Butch7999 02-19-2020 12:15 PM

https://live.staticflickr.com/4566/3...8beb9623_o.jpg

^ always looking for more from this set... ^

kdixon 02-19-2020 12:21 PM

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Babe Adams The Globe.

Exhibitman 02-19-2020 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Snapolit1 (Post 1956380)
Sometimes I need to look at it many times to even form an opinion.

It's from a strip set of mixed subjects also including Speaker, McGraw and Bob Meusel.

x2drich2000 02-19-2020 04:45 PM

To me a scarce type should be a card from a set that doesn't come up for public sale often, probably should be available no more than once a year. Stretching the definition of "card" a little, but these are not available everyday.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...c51ea12f_c.jpg

and as expected in a thread like this, one of my obsessions. Anyone want to sell me another one?

https://live.staticflickr.com/1892/4...03dc5221_c.jpg

deadballera 02-19-2020 04:52 PM

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here is one example...

ValKehl 02-19-2020 05:03 PM

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Leon, I also am partial to very scarce/rare type cards, and I enjoyed viewing your fantastic, previous type collection many times over the years. Congrats on re-acquiring the E121-type Leader Theatre card of Heine Groh from it.

I assume you are also looking to re-acquire an example of the W573-type Leader Theatre card, such as the one shown below. Interestingly, all of the cards I have ever seen of this type are Washington Senators players. For those not aware, the Leader Theatre was located in Washington, DC: http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/3033

nolemmings 02-19-2020 05:53 PM

Type cards
 
For those not familiar with the term, there are different interpretations of what is meant by type collecting (like Leon mentioned), and the word should be given its ordinary meaning. I start with the question of “what type of card is that?” and expand from there. If I have a 1916 Sporting News Dave Bancroft and you have what appears to be the same card but with a blank back, some would say we have the same type– a card of a particular size denoting the same picture/subject and caption. Others would say that each advertising back represents a different type, or maybe these are sub-types. Same for T205, T206, etc– if you just want to see what the card looks like from the front, acquiring one example of a T206 would satisfy your objective to have a card of that “type”, and then you move on to something else that is different. Many would instead want a T206 with each “type” of advertising back and factory designation, but again, generally only one example of each.

I’m sure you get the idea, and see that it can take you in different directions. Player collectors are a more specialized example of type collecting, and some consider back variations to be their own types, such as different fonts, word spacing or orientation– even stock (e.g. gray or white back Topps cards from the 50's). As a concept it is basically the opposite of set collecting–one from all as opposed to all from one. For this reason true type collectors try and snag a card from an issue that is seldom seen, especially since there is little temptation to try and chase a set that may be impossible or is unknown to exist in complete form. In any event and like most here would say, collect what you like!
Here are a couple of mine:
https://photos.imageevent.com/imover...4vaughn_mt.jpg
https://photos.imageevent.com/imover.../13FBBaker.jpg

CobbSpikedMe 02-19-2020 06:36 PM

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Great cards guys. Here are some type cards that you don't see very often. I don't even know what to call them yet.


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Vintagecatcher 02-19-2020 07:32 PM

Joseph Laughlin H801-7 Old Mill Cabinet
 
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One of my favorites purchased from another board member.

Patrick

Tom S. 02-19-2020 07:44 PM

I like type card collecting!! Here are a few from my White Sox set:


I'll start with a couple of oversized postcards...

https://www.collectorfocus.com/image...agner-postcard

https://www.collectorfocus.com/image...twell-postcard


Next are a couple of postcards with overprinted backs...

https://www.collectorfocus.com/image...overprint-back

https://www.collectorfocus.com/image...stein-postcard


Here's a strip card...

https://www.collectorfocus.com/image...umbered-type-2


Followed by a couple of oversized premiums...

https://www.collectorfocus.com/image...ations-premium

https://www.collectorfocus.com/image...ue-ribbon-malt


And finally a card that Leon might remember from his old collection :) …

https://www.collectorfocus.com/image...-run-candy-bar

Sorry for the long post!

packs 02-19-2020 07:46 PM

1940 San Francisco Seals Stamps:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...c713d84f_z.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...11b0d1cf_z.jpg

keating3620 02-19-2020 07:46 PM

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Blank back diamond stars , possible proof

seanofjapan 02-19-2020 07:55 PM

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I'll add another Japanese one.

This is a card of Saburo Miyatake, one of Japan's biggest stars of the 1930s. The set was issued in either 1929 or 1930 and is one of the oldest Japanese baseball cards ever issued.

Until I found this one there were only 3 known copies of this card in existence. The other three all show him wearing either a Red or a Green uniform, mine is the only one showing him wearing a yellow one.

tedzan 02-19-2020 07:58 PM

1904 Eastern League Champions

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...sonsTeam50.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference
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Baseballcrazy62 02-19-2020 08:12 PM

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I think this qualifies as a type card.

Rhotchkiss 02-19-2020 08:38 PM

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GREAT thread. Here are two

philliesphan 02-19-2020 11:30 PM

I'll contribute this one
 
Quite difficult to find a 1922 with the coupon attached:

https://d28lcup14p4e72.cloudfront.ne...rlandSGC55.jpg

GeoPoto 02-20-2020 03:58 AM

Since the definition is flexible . . .
 
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Exhibitman 02-20-2020 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by x2drich2000 (Post 1956493)
To me a scarce type should be a card from a set that doesn't come up for public sale often, probably should be available no more than once a year. Stretching the definition of "card" a little, but these are not available everyday.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...c51ea12f_c.jpg

Love the Winthorp. You never see those...

Here's another old school flip book:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...lip%20book.jpg

Now as far as types go, I picked up this flip book-related type card last National:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...binson%201.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...binson%202.jpg

I was actually looking for one of them and happened to get lucky the first day of the show. Goes well with one of the corresponding flip books

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...binson%201.JPG

Jay Wolt 02-20-2020 03:06 PM

https://www.qualitycards.com/pictures/17486493.jpg

tedzan 02-20-2020 07:00 PM

Mystery Jimmy Foxx card
 
Perhaps circa early 1930's......the card measures 1 1/2" x 1 7/8"
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/aafoxx.jpg
TED Z

T206 Reference
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asphaltman 02-20-2020 08:49 PM

Some great cards here. I'll go with these although not all technically cards.

<a href="https://ibb.co/mXqCxR2"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/MGVDXgt/fullsizeoutput-7e.jpg" alt="fullsizeoutput-7e" border="0"></a><a href="https://ibb.co/ysggHnb"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/YjffH7q/fullsizeoutput-78.jpg" alt="fullsizeoutput-78" border="0"></a>
<a href="https://ibb.co/DpQ7P2P"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/ZmxhRDR/fullsizeoutput-21e.jpg" alt="fullsizeoutput-21e" border="0"></a><a href="https://ibb.co/hDcqfqP"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/m60x8xL/fullsizeoutput-21f.jpg" alt="fullsizeoutput-21f" border="0"></a>
<a href="https://ibb.co/d66pS6S"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/2PPMwPw/fullsizeoutput-1b6.jpg" alt="fullsizeoutput-1b6" border="0"></a><a href="https://ibb.co/y5LWxQF"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/gwszcRZ/fullsizeoutput-1b8.jpg" alt="fullsizeoutput-1b8" border="0"></a>

brianp-beme 02-20-2020 10:07 PM

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Here a few that are few and far between...

Crescent Ice Cream
R308-2 Tattoo Orbit (the large one pictured)
W-UNC McGraw

Brian

irishdenny 02-21-2020 01:21 AM

This is One of those threads that jus Blows my Mind and Leaves me Speechless... "So i'll jus Shut uP!"

Brian Van Horn 02-21-2020 06:24 AM

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dabigyankeeman 02-22-2020 10:34 AM

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Dont see these every day, and most that you see are punched like this one. 1923 Lections Bob Shawkey.

Jobu 02-22-2020 10:49 AM

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If it's legit (nobody seems to know what this is, it seems legit in person and would be a strange player to fake), I think this would be my most obscure issued card.

Jason19th 02-22-2020 02:15 PM

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3 rare foreign issues

1. 1923-24 Tomas Gutierrez
2. 1931 Cigarrera - Venezuelan Issue with less then 10 graded from entire set
3. 1923 Nationales- great real photo issue

benchod 02-23-2020 03:56 PM

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Here's a tough 19th century type

1886 H812 Welton Cigars Buck Ewing

ValKehl 02-23-2020 04:08 PM

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Another tough 19th Century type:

RCMcKenzie 02-23-2020 04:32 PM

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The Welton Cigars and Lone Jack are great.... I don't count these as types, because in my mind, I'm going for the sets...


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