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theshleps 11-17-2021 02:26 PM

Keurajian vs Beckett
 
Compare https://sports.ha.com/itm/autographs...=MyBids-101116 and Page 223 Simmons 5 in Ron's 2nd edition. If Ron is right, this is bad. As Ive mentioned before Beckett is always alittle too liberal in passing things IMO but with PSA taking very few items there is a large increase in Beckett slabs. Also to me the Koufax and possibly Drysdale on this are iffy https://www.ebay.com/itm/37378869956...AAAOSwiaFhjb~N

jad22 11-17-2021 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by theshleps (Post 2165156)
Compare https://sports.ha.com/itm/autographs...=MyBids-101116 and Page 223 Simmons 5 in Ron's 2nd edition. If Ron is right, this is bad. As Ive mentioned before Beckett is always alittle too liberal in passing things IMO but with PSA taking very few items there is a large increase in Beckett slabs. Also to me the Koufax and possibly Drysdale on this are iffy https://www.ebay.com/itm/37378869956...AAAOSwiaFhjb~N

That does not look like the normal Simmons autographed Artvue.

Duluth Eskimo 11-18-2021 09:53 PM

No way that Simmons is good.

theshleps 11-18-2021 11:51 PM

went for $16,000. Shows what a slab will do

mrreality68 11-19-2021 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by theshleps (Post 2165780)
went for $16,000. Shows what a slab will do

That is very surprising

Klrdds 11-19-2021 09:08 AM

The slab means everything in autographs as well as cards. Forget the legitimacy of the actual item. It seems to me that this item would have stood out as questionable at best, but people don't educate themselves as they used to or should continue to do they just go with the label on the slab and rely on that only.
PS FWIW Beckett and Grad are my least favorite of authenticators and should I say to me the least authoritative / confidence generating of the TPAs as well.

theshleps 11-19-2021 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Klrdds (Post 2165872)
The slab means everything in autographs as well as cards. Forget the legitimacy of the actual item. It seems to me that this item would have stood out as questionable at best, but people don't educate themselves as they used to or should continue to do they just go with the label on the slab and rely on that only.
PS FWIW Beckett and Grad are my least favorite of authenticators and should I say to me the least authoritative / confidence generating of the TPAs as well.

I agree about Beckett and Grad. In recent auctions IMO the Clementes and Jackie Robinson they sold with Beckett slabs had some questionable ones tho it did not stop the high bids

Republicaninmass 11-19-2021 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by theshleps (Post 2165898)
I agree about Beckett and Grad. In recent auctions IMO the Clementes and Jackie Robinson they sold with Beckett slabs had some questionable ones tho it did not stop the high bids



I believe the jackies are currently resurfacing in auctions houses...try to find the next Rube

Klrdds 11-19-2021 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Republicaninmass (Post 2165914)
I believe the jackies are currently resurfacing in auctions houses...try to find the next Rube

I agree 100% and the Rubes will be lining up to bid


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