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The one good thing about PSA

Posted By: RobertLike many of you on the board I am not the happiest person with PSA, but I must say the one good thing about them is their slabs are the easiest to crack. I am opening about 50 of them so I can send the cards off to SGC for a regrade.

The one good thing about PSA

Posted By: Brian Weisner Hi Robert, I disagree I can open SGC holders within seconds and with 0 chance of damage to myself or the card. While PSA holders require different tools and the possibility of injury. What's your technique on PSA? Maybe I'm doing something wrong? lmk brian

The one good thing about PSA

Posted By: dan mckeeI agree, PSA opens easiest with a pen knife pry in a corner.

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Posted By: warshawlawfor that matter, easier than getting through the wrapper on a new DVD, esp. the ones with the sticky tape on the edges. Or just drop one on the floor of my kitchen. Saltillo tiles. Cracks them like eggshells.

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Posted By: Richard LloydJust my 2 cents: but is sounds funny to me that folks are off cracking slabs to get regraded... BUT, I TOTALLY think the grading should be stopped! and grades of REAL or FAKE!! should be given.. it just seems to much money is riding on a 7 or a 8.. which may depend on if the grader is having a bad or good day.. again.. just my thoughts!!

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Posted By: Josh K.I agree Adam - those cd wrappers are a pain in the a#@. PSA holders, on the otherhand, no problem.

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Posted By: Ted ZanidakisRichard LLoyd your are absolutely right; so, don't apologize for your comments. The entire card grading business has become so arbitrary. PSA will reject a card due to "evidence of trim" and the same card will be slabbed by SGC with an 88 grade. This happened to me several years ago and it was then that I became turned off on Graded cards. Now, I knew my 1949 Bowman Musial was not trimmed because it was one of my original cards that survived in great shape. I tried to convince the PSA guy about this and he became very belligerant with me. It was not a nice scene. I have popped many graded cards from their plastic slabs since and believe me there is no consistency in these graded cards. Like you eluded to, a given card in Near Mint Condition can get a 7 or 8 or even a 9 grade, depending on several human factors on any given day. Let's face it, the card grading business is very SUBJECTIVE. And unfortunately depends on who in the hobby is submitting the cards to be graded. But, it isn't going away, in fact the demand on graded cards is increasing. And, one of the main factors supporting this growth is Ebay. A majority of buyers on Ebay will not bid on a given card unless it is slabbed. There is a great fear that a "raw" card, especially an apparent Hi Grade one, will have been in some way altered. Well, not too long ago, an SGC graded T206 rare Doyle (Nat. Lge) was proven to be an altered card. I've been expecting the Graded Card Bubble to "pop"; but, I am not holding my breadth till it does.

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Posted By: Richard LloydThanks Ted... The graded card industy is a joke and most honest people know it is but sellers make more money and untill collectors stop paying BIG bucks it will continue... also, when collectors crack the slab, then, the stats on who and when the card was slabed it wrecked.. I always read, "the 2nd highest grade card ever"...WELL, these stats mean nothing because hundards of cards are being reslabed because the collector did not get the ANSWER he/she wanted!!! so, the stats mean nothing!!! with many cards being reslabed and favortism being done!, it is just a matter of time before the graders pack up there slabs!! best

The one good thing about PSA

Posted By: Bob Marquette"buy the card, not the holder." There's nothing wrong with buying a slabbed card IF you think it is a nice card. The trick is buying an SGC 70 card in an SGC 40 holder or PSA 6 in a PSA 4 holder. I recently found 7 cards on ebay which I narrowed my search down to, 5 1959 slabbed Mantles, an SGC 60, 50 and PSA 5 and 2 PSA 4s and two "raw" ones described as EXMT. It is always hard to tell from scans, granted, but one of the PSA 4s looked the best, color, registry, corner, etc. wise, so I bought that one and got a bargain. To Pete, leon, Scott and all the others who drummed in my head "buy the card not the holder," I offer a toast.

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Posted By: Judge Dred TBob, you are right - that same anthem probably holds true for most serious collectors - "buy the card, not the holder". Unfortunately sometimes the card is worth $50 but the holder is worth $500 to someone that thinks there is value in a number. Personally, I think that allowing grades dictate price is crazy because look at the people that actually use their "subjectively" to assign that number to an encapsulation label. What makes them the authority? I think I'd rather admit to being an axe murderer than to admitting to being a PSA grader, especially at the National. Oh yes, what was the one good thing about PSA?

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Posted By: peteI currently dont own any and assume most but not all are trimmed...how would you crack open a PRO holder? the same as PSA? I bet I could get some good deals on some PRO graded cards whether trimmed or not...not trying to be sneaky and resell them, but there are over 500 cards in the t206 set...how many are commons? the only graded cards I have are the high priced ones...everything else is in a binder and ungraded. pete-

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Posted By: ScottopotamusI would not crack open a PRO graded card simply because it would be an admission that I BOUGHT a PRO graded card! Scottoptamus My T206 Web Site <a href="http://www.freewebs.com/scottopotamus" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.freewebs.com/scottopotamus</a>

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Posted By: dan mckeeWOW! funny how the "old timers" all say the same thing. Ted has been around forever! Not a late 80s entrant like many here. Dick, you are fairly new and have the right attitude! I love it!!

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Posted By: warshawlawI recently saw a T218 Baldwin advertised as best ever SGC graded, at a 50; I own an 80. I emailed the seller to tell him and his response was that his is the best for that brand (Mecca instead of Hassan). That's the equivalent of selling a T206 in a 50 as the best ever because it is the highest Piedmont they ever graded.