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iwantitiwinit 03-29-2019 06:53 AM

Worst Topps Design 1952-1976
 
Thought I'd take a quick poll on the worst Topps design/appeal from 1952-1976 a few selections. I voted for 1965, ugh.

orioles70 03-29-2019 07:06 AM

Topps created the standard size in 1957 and it is a beauty and one of my favorites. I recently completed it after purchasing the literal last card in rhe set...Yankee Power Hitters. But Topps must have used up all that creativity in 1957 and phoned in the 1958 and 1959 designs...take your pick...either 1958 or 1959...both are awful.

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MarcosCards 03-29-2019 10:45 AM

Set Design
 
A lot of this boils down to aesthetics – and personal preference - of course. But I think the nostalgia factor also comes in to play. For me, the 1959‘s were during my collecting wheelhouse time period. They take me back in such an awesome way! Also, I like the rich background colors – except the pink:). I voted for the 1974 set design - truly uninspiring.

Griffins 03-29-2019 10:59 AM

so many choices from '58-62. I think '65 is one of the best though.
'57 and '69 have decent designs but horrible photography/reproduction

jchcollins 03-29-2019 12:20 PM

Out of those listed I'd pick '74. I think the '58 set is underrated.

Harliduck 03-29-2019 01:04 PM

I agree, I LOVE 65...one of my top sets although the high cards are not exciting like other years...

For me it's easy...58 Topps. Can't stand them. I have owned, currently owned, or worked on every set from 54 up EXCEPT the 58's. Lack of rookies, the design, the massive amount of head shots...you name it. I know one day I will have to tackle the set and I am 99% sure I will just buy it complete.

To me there isn't a bad issue in the 60's...69 being my favorite for many reasons...and I grew up on the 70s but would admit the 73 and 75s are blah. I rarely pull out those sets to look through...

darkhorse9 03-29-2019 01:51 PM

How could you ignore the horrific 1964 set? It's easily one of the most boring sets ever produced by anyone

7nohitter 03-29-2019 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by darkhorse9 (Post 1866236)
How could you ignore the horrific 1964 set? It's easily one of the most boring sets ever produced by anyone

I see your 1964 set and raise you the most boring set ever: 1967

Harliduck 03-29-2019 02:10 PM

Worst part of the 67 set is the Mantle. Imagine an iconic swinging bat pose instead of the dumb head shot with that ugly green back ground. Card would be worth twice as much with a better picture.

Jim65 03-29-2019 03:18 PM

Not on the list but I always thought 73 Topps was uglier than Rosie O'Donnell

7nohitter 03-29-2019 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Harliduck (Post 1866241)
Worst part of the 67 set is the Mantle. Imagine an iconic swinging bat pose instead of the dumb head shot with that ugly green back ground. Card would be worth twice as much with a better picture.

Exactly!!! I mean it's hard to hate a Mantle card....but its my least favorite!

Peter_Spaeth 03-29-2019 03:30 PM

73

BearBailey 03-29-2019 08:22 PM

1962, but having 1965 on the list is baffling, personal preferences I guess.

Bigdaddy 03-29-2019 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BearBailey (Post 1866335)
1962, but having 1965 on the list is baffling, personal preferences I guess.

Agree. I'm finishing up a '65 set and the colors just pop and the photos are so clear and in focus. Topps must have paid a premium to the printer that year.

My vote is for 1958 or 1974 for the worst design and execution.

clydepepper 03-30-2019 06:16 AM

I love the '65 design!

I'd vote for the 1960 for worst.

Not a fan of either 1966 or 1972, though the later had the distinction of being original.

smrtn240 03-30-2019 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim65 (Post 1866259)
Not on the list but I always thought 73 Topps was uglier than Rosie O'Donnell

https://images.app.goo.gl/WyfxHDMAhJbh2ZfE9
https://images.app.goo.gl/Nkfg5jnKP7a4qFH3A


Ouch!

hcv123 03-30-2019 10:15 AM

interesting
 
How varied personal taste is. So before looking at your list. I envisioned cards from each year and came up with a list of contenders in my head. My list was 1961, 1966, 1968 and 1974. Of those, only 1968 and 1974 were on your list (which I likely would have narrowed down to anyway). It's close to me - I have memories of buying, flipping, etc. 1974's that puts them a bit higher for me - although admittedly the design leaves much to be desired (saving grace - some of the action poses). Thinking of the monotonous borders and overproduction of the 68's finally led my vote there - I see a bit more than 1/3 of voters are agreed - that's a pretty good consensus for net 54!

rhettyeakley 03-30-2019 10:30 AM

I voted 1968, a close second was 1974 (bad production quality that year as well).

I am shocked that 1965 is even in consideration and am also pretty surprised 1958 is up there as well. I mainly collect the Topps issues autographed and I don’t think they could have made a better set for that than the 1958 set. The color background makes the autograph really pop! As far as autographs go the 1975 set is my least favorite towards that end, but it is a pretty neat set in and of itself.

KendallCat 03-30-2019 11:33 AM

1963 and 1967. 63 is boring and the rookie cards with the floating heads is strange imo.

Hxcmilkshake 03-30-2019 12:32 PM

This is like asking me to pick the kid I love the least.

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BillP 03-30-2019 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rhettyeakley (Post 1866431)
I voted 1968, a close second was 1974 (bad production quality that year as well).

I am shocked that 1965 is even in consideration and am also pretty surprised 1958 is up there as well. I mainly collect the Topps issues autographed and I don’t think they could have made a better set for that than the 1958 set. The color background makes the autograph really pop! As far as autographs go the 1975 set is my least favorite towards that end, but it is a pretty neat set in and of itself.

I'd vote for any set that has so many diamond cuts. To me that's 69.

BillP 03-30-2019 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Harliduck (Post 1866226)
I agree, I LOVE 65...one of my top sets although the high cards are not exciting like other years...

For me it's easy...58 Topps. Can't stand them. I have owned, currently owned, or worked on every set from 54 up EXCEPT the 58's. Lack of rookies, the design, the massive amount of head shots...you name it. I know one day I will have to tackle the set and I am 99% sure I will just buy it complete.

To me there isn't a bad issue in the 60's...69 being my favorite for many reasons...and I grew up on the 70s but would admit the 73 and 75s are blah. I rarely pull out those sets to look through...

I for one have warmed up to 58. To hard to collect, like the colors, have gotten over the headshots. For me outside the diamond cut 69 set, it's 61. I have all the sets around it but I think it's drab and can't motivate myself to collect it. same with 61 fb.

1963Topps Set 03-30-2019 06:42 PM

1969 - all of the team name are the same color - yellow. No team cards. Many capless photos due to expansion. Bland overall design.

1953 - Topps only venture into art work, YUK! The Bowman art work of 1950 - 1952 puts this to shame. I have not even attempted a 1953 Topps set because I find it so unappealing.

VintageVinnie 03-30-2019 07:52 PM

'68 for me is just pure yuk...something about that burlap color/design..ugh!

Mark70Z 03-31-2019 06:07 AM

I just couldn’t take part in the poll since I enjoy all the designs. If I had to choose it would be ‘58 and even though I like the design I’m not much of a fan of the picture selected for the Brooksie card that year.

Harliduck 03-31-2019 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark70Z (Post 1866596)
I just couldn’t take part in the poll since I enjoy all the designs. If I had to choose it would be ‘58 and even though I like the design I’m not much of a fan of the picture selected for the Brooksie card that year.

I totally get that mentality on Brooksie...61 Topps takes a dent with me because the Killebrew card is so poor. I do like the set though, and am currently rebuilding...but that dang Killer card just sucks! The 58 Killer card isn't one of my favorites, but it's a decent card.

rats60 04-01-2019 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 1963Topps Set (Post 1866543)
1969 - all of the team name are the same color - yellow. No team cards. Many capless photos due to expansion. Bland overall design.

1953 - Topps only venture into art work, YUK! The Bowman art work of 1950 - 1952 puts this to shame. I have not even attempted a 1953 Topps set because I find it so unappealing.

Agree on 1953 Topps. All the head shots are just boring. I would add 1954 Topps. It is a worse version of the 1958 set. I absolutely hate the 1952-54 Topps sets, they are the ugliest sets Topps made. Luckily they upped their game with the 1955 and 1956 Topps designs, two of the best ever, and the rest is history.

Fuddjcal 04-01-2019 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by rats60 (Post 1866885)
Agree on 1953 Topps. All the head shots are just boring. I would add 1954 Topps. It is a worse version of the 1958 set. I absolutely hate the 1952-54 Topps sets, they are the ugliest sets Topps made. Luckily they upped their game with the 1955 and 1956 Topps designs, two of the best ever, and the rest is history.

Yeah, I especially hate the 53 Mays, 53 Mantle and 53 Robinson. About 7K worth of cards that are ugly head shots, but I sure enjoy their ugliness.:D

I especially hate the 54 Aaron, the 2 -54 Ted Williams and the 54 Robinson too. Very boring..:p I also hate the 52 Mantle, The 52 Mays and 52 Jackie Robinson. Very ugly.:confused:

rats60 04-01-2019 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Fuddjcal (Post 1866934)
Yeah, I especially hate the 53 Mays, 53 Mantle and 53 Robinson. About 7K worth of cards that are ugly head shots, but I sure enjoy their ugliness.:D

I especially hate the 54 Aaron, the 2 -54 Ted Williams and the 54 Robinson too. Very boring..:p I also hate the 52 Mantle, The 52 Mays and 52 Jackie Robinson. Very ugly.:confused:

The 1952 Topps Mantle is the ugliest baseball card ever made. Who uses a yellow painted bat? When Bowman was putting out great looking sets, Topps was putting out garbage. I owned those sets and sold them because they were ugly. Collect what you like and I will do the same.:confused:

Aquarian Sports Cards 04-01-2019 11:38 AM

1970 is the most boring set design in history

VintageVinnie 04-01-2019 03:42 PM

I don't get how you think 52-54 are ugly cards???? BUT, rats 60 says it best...the freedom to collect what you like. That's the beauty of our hobby. Everybody has different tastes, opinions, and points of view. Here, here!

rats60 04-02-2019 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by VintageVinnie (Post 1867020)
I don't get how you think 52-54 are ugly cards???? BUT, rats 60 says it best...the freedom to collect what you like. That's the beauty of our hobby. Everybody has different tastes, opinions, and points of view. Here, here!

The 1954 cards use black and white background photos. After the beautiful 1953 Bowman cards, the design looks ugly, cheap and lazy on Topps part. The 1953 set uses bad paintings that look like failed high school art projects and vastly inferior to the 1950-52 Bowman designs as 1963Topps Set pointed out. All just my opinion, but Topps pre 1955 was putting out inferior designs to Bowman. If you prefer these to the full color designs of 1955 and 1956 Topps that is your opinion, but mine is the 1955-56 Topps and 1950-53 Bowman blow them away.

Chris Counts 04-02-2019 07:05 PM

I agree with those who say 1953 was the worst of all Topps sets. The design actually isn't bad, but a lack of action poses, bad artwork and borders that bleed color and chip easily make this set a clunker.

HRBAKER 04-02-2019 07:17 PM

1973

55koufax 04-09-2019 04:56 PM

Love '73 & '74
 
Simplicity rules!

55koufax 04-09-2019 04:58 PM

100% agreed
 
'67 Mantle is without a doubt the single worst Mantle card ever. I used to practically throw them in the garbage as a kid.

LeftHandedDane 04-10-2019 02:54 PM

1960 for Me
 
The only standard size card that was produced horizontally, the pictures are small and boring, the ugly black and white second cut-out photo, the ugly gold color on the back, the lack of full career statistics, coaches cards (really?) - there is just really not much to like about 1960 to me.

PolarBear 07-04-2019 06:00 PM

58 shouldn't even be part of the discussion. It's a great set, with a "Cracker Jack" feel to it. There are better sets for sure but the 58 is no where near the worst set.

Now, the 68 burlap sack border cards, yeah, that's bad. Or the 1970 recycled newspaper borders, also pretty bad.

Someone mentioned the 73 set. It's so bad it's good. Check out Luis Alvarado playing a pick up game on a grade school field.

Peter_Spaeth 07-04-2019 06:22 PM

Best: 65, 57, 54, 53
Worst: 73, 68, 60

darwinbulldog 07-04-2019 07:38 PM

'68 is bad, but '55 Bowman is worse.

vintagetoppsguy 07-04-2019 09:19 PM

Of the sets listed, '68 has to be the worst. Why did Topps change the design in the later series?

seanofjapan 07-04-2019 09:21 PM

I think design needs to be set apart from photography. The sets from the 1960s are universally bad from a photography standpoint regardless of the design. Personally I like the design of the 1962 and 1965 sets, but just get so bored looking at the posed spring training pictures that I can't get too excited about the sets.

While the sets of the early 70s you at least had the benefit of a few cards with decent in-game action photos (though most cards still had that posed spring training photo problem). So I don't mind the 1974 set that much, some cards in it have some quite striking pictures that you don't see on sets from the 60s.

Mark17 07-04-2019 11:13 PM

! like the run from 1961-1967, plus 1956 and 1957 best. Worst is 1959 - way too much border. I always thought it was like looking through a periscope.

mintonlyplz 07-05-2019 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark17 (Post 1895689)
! like the run from 1961-1967, plus 1956 and 1957 best. Worst is 1959 - way too much border. I always thought it was like looking through a periscope.

Or 1959 is like looking through a peep hole!

jerrys 07-05-2019 06:32 AM

1959 worse - 1971 best

jchcollins 07-05-2019 07:14 AM

I'll be unpopular and own up to liking '61 Topps. Yeah the design is anything but cutting-edge, and the capless photos are boring, but for trying to collect a set from that era I think it's one of the more reasonable ones, and it's loaded with Hall of Famers. If the base cards are standard at best, Topps outdid themselves with the All Star cards in the high series, which IMO is one of the coolest designs ever.

BillP 07-05-2019 07:39 AM

Interesting reading on peoples preferences.

For me:

Best in no particular order: 67 63 66 54 58

warming up to: 64 62 57 65 59

Not in the mix: 61, 60, 73,74, 72

I have 57-68 sets except 61. Just can't get excited about it and I've tried.

bill

mouschi 07-05-2019 07:50 AM

I know this poll is over, but 1974 and it isn't even close :)

jchcollins 07-05-2019 07:56 AM

It's also interesting to me how my tastes have changed. When I first discovered old cards as a kid, I hated 1972 Topps. Of course at the time they were only about 14-15 years old, and any sense of nostalgia that we have now about the 1970's had not yet developed. Today I think the '72s are awesome and it's one of my favorite sets of all-time.

kailes2872 07-06-2019 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by darwinbulldog (Post 1895658)
'68 is bad, but '55 Bowman is worse.

I know that the 55 Bowman has its flaws, but I think that having color TV sets for cards in the 50's is pretty cool. Color TV was a new phenomenon and it was very cutting edge. It would be like a manufacturer doing an Iphone card in 2009.

I have told the kids that when I go, they can do with them what they would like. My 13 year old daughter usually just seems my collection as something that gets in the way of her building her wardrobe or shoe collection. However, I asked her which ones were her favorites and what she would want. She did not hesitate when she said '55 Bowman (or as she calls it, the TV cards), and 62 Topps.

I don't much care for '70, '73, '74, '64, '66, '68, and '69.

I am meh on '67, '61, '60, 58, 59, '52, and '53

I like '62, '71, '72 (birth year, holds a special place), and '57 (because the
pictures all look so dark).

I love '54 (I like the background colors), '55, 63, and '65

My favorite of all time will always be '56. It had the best player selection, the action shots (Mantle, Clemente) were awesome. 34 HOFers out of 340 cards. It was as if Topps was at their creative apex after battling Bowman for the past 5 years. The rookies are light, but that helps keep the cost down. If it had Musial, it might be perfect.

I need to start on 52 Topps soon as it is the last one left for me and I am having trouble getting excited. I don't like them all that much and they are expensive which is a bad combination.

steve B 07-06-2019 03:22 PM

Pretty surprised at the results, to me 64-66 is just a vast wasteland of boring.

lowpopper 07-06-2019 04:43 PM

The ugliest sets may be the best investments. Buy low while you can. :cool::cool::cool::cool:

JollyElm 07-06-2019 04:51 PM

1959 is nothing but a huge eyesore and 1970 is as boring and drab as it gets. Yawn. I will take the 1965 and 1974 designs any day of the week. Great stuff!!

Gary Dunaier 07-06-2019 08:25 PM

The 1958 is my least favorite design because of its solid background.

But I've always wondered if Topps did that because of the Dodgers' and Giants' move to California, and since the majority of player photos were taken in New York it would have been just too weird to have Ebbets Field and the Polo Grounds in the background. (I don't know if this backs up my theory or not, but their team cards identify them as "1957 Dodgers," "1957 Giants" whereas the other team cards are identified not by date but by city.)

bb66 07-07-2019 10:09 AM

To me the worst and the best are back-to-back years! How crazy is that? The worst is 1964 and the best is 1965.

deweyinthehall 07-10-2019 07:23 PM

My absolute favorite Topps set is outside this era - 1978; it was the first set I ever collected and to my mind will always be cardboard perfection.

IMO the best from this era, in no particular order, are:
1) 65 - love the pennants and bold colors on the front - just feels like what a baseball card should look like;
2) 67 - big photo surface area, sharp looking hi numbers
3) 72 - just finished upgrading my set; it would be better if the lower series had the crisp clarity that the 2 hi series have in both design and photo; I've always been curious as to why the stark difference in appearance exists between the lower and higher series in this set
4) 74 - can't understand the hating on this set - colorful design elements, great action shots
5) 57 - nice big photos unencumbered by intrusive border or other designs

Worst:
1) 68 - nuff said
2) 70 - nothing says fun like the color gray
3) 73 - after 72, what were they thinking??
4) 71 - I will never understand why this set seems to be so revered by so many; when people praise it they often talk about how the black borders make it such a challenge to collect in higher grades as if it's a perk; for pure collectors like myself the black borders are a curse - driving the cost up on drab looking cards
5) 75 - another set that seems to get a lot of love for reasons that elude me. As a kid it was brutal sorting by team when all the bloody borders within each team varied so wildly

PolarBear 07-11-2019 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by deweyinthehall (Post 1897742)
My absolute favorite Topps set is outside this era - 1978; it was the first set I ever collected and to my mind will always be cardboard perfection.

I'm with you on the 78 set, probably the best set in the 70's. The 76 set is close too though.

jchcollins 07-12-2019 11:05 AM

Due respect but ‘78 is yawn-inducing, and ‘79 may be worse. I like colorful cards, so would again give much love and support to both ‘75, and (the best set of the decade) the mod-squad looking ‘72s. I hated them as a kid who had first started collecting in the 1980’s, but love them now.

Older than that I will also voice opinion for colorful over popular. In this regard, ‘58 and ‘61 Topps are high on my list. Yes, the backgrounds could be be considered dull on 1958 as compared with the ‘57 Topps photos, but truth is the color for the photography on that set was all over the place, and many cards are drab and boring looking to me, with the faded-out background taking up most of the card. At least with ‘58 the color pop is right there. ‘61s get no love because of the missing caps and sometimes boring as all get-out portraits, but there are a number of super colorful cards that just speak to me. Eddie Mathews, Duke Snider, Yogi...and the Aaron base card from that set is an under appreciated work of art, IMO.


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taul166 07-12-2019 11:06 AM

Hi, I don't mean to change the subject off Topps.

But, has a similar poll been conducted for the Bowman sets from 1948 thru 1955? If so, can someone point me to a link. If not, what do folks think?

I have collected Topps sets from the late 1950s thru 1960s, but am thinking about a Bowman set project.

egri 07-12-2019 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by taul166 (Post 1898229)
Hi, I don't mean to change the subject off Topps.

But, has a similar poll been conducted for the Bowman sets from 1948 thru 1955? If so, can someone point me to a link. If not, what do folks think?

I have collected Topps sets from the late 1950s thru 1960s, but am thinking about a Bowman set project.

A few years ago asked what everyone’s favorite Bowman design was, and the 1953s were the runaway favorite. For my least favorite, probably the 1955s. I really don’t like the wood grain borders; it just feels very dated to me.


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