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pt7464 03-15-2021 05:11 PM

Autographed baseball cards Continued!
 
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Here is another group of autographed cards The opinions on the last batch were pretty right on so I would love to get opinions on these.
Good/Bad? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Here is the update on the cards I sent to JSA. All the cards I sent in passed so I'm going to be sending another group later on in the week.

theshleps 03-15-2021 08:39 PM

Derringer doesn't look right

Michael B 03-15-2021 09:11 PM

I may be wrong, but I think Harmon Killibrew might roll over in his grave if he saw those.

Duluth Eskimo 03-15-2021 10:46 PM

All good except for Derringer in my opinion.

todeen 03-16-2021 12:11 AM

You could show the Derringer in the Facebook group 1938-40 Cincinnati Reds. Derringer's son is on that thread. According to him, most TTM Derringer autos were signed by family members. He said Paul hated signing and would let items back up.

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egri 03-16-2021 08:16 PM

The Ford and Berra look good to me. I'm not a fan of the Musial, but it may just be a style I'm not familiar with.

Scott Garner 03-17-2021 04:26 AM

Ryan is certainly correct.
This version of his sig was signed in the 1970's at the ballpark.

mr2686 03-17-2021 09:00 AM

I agree that the Derringer looks off, and the Berra and Ford look good. I also think, as best I can tell by the photo, that the Gomez and Ruffing are both good.

chalupacollects 03-17-2021 06:47 PM

:mad: - to the Killebrews...

Hxcmilkshake 03-17-2021 08:16 PM

Gibson, Brock, Yogi, Whitey look good

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BillyCoxDodgers3B 03-17-2021 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by chalupacollects (Post 2082436)
:mad: - to the Killebrews...

See Scott's comment above. It requires no editing.

packs 03-18-2021 07:16 AM

Is the Whitey signed twice or did someone else write his name in pen first?

pt7464 03-18-2021 12:33 PM

Whitey
 
Signed twice. Looks like the first signature ran out of ink so he resigned

shelly 03-18-2021 02:22 PM

Killebrew:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Michael B 03-18-2021 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chalupacollects (Post 2082436)
:mad: - to the Killebrews...

I am glad I was correct on these. I don't collect baseball autographs anymore so I am a little rusty on them. A few others looked off, but I did not want to comment on those.

vintagechris 03-18-2021 03:38 PM

I don't see anything wrong with that 73 Killebrew.

BillyCoxDodgers3B 03-18-2021 08:14 PM

I'm quite surprised at the unfamiliarity I'm seeing from some folks regarding Killebrew's rushed, 1970's in-person style. These are encountered with regularity and are entirely legitimate.

shelly 03-19-2021 12:47 PM

Billy, i would love to have you show me a Killebrew that passed by any of the big 3 that looks like the ones above.:p

Just a side note. a perfect Killebrew with a mint signature and mint card sells for around $20 to $50

Duluth Eskimo 03-19-2021 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BillyCox3 (Post 2082872)
I'm quite surprised at the unfamiliarity I'm seeing from some folks regarding Killebrew's rushed, 1970's in-person style. These are encountered with regularity and are entirely legitimate.

I agree with this and stand by my original comment that all are good except Derringer

vintagechris 03-19-2021 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Duluth Eskimo (Post 2083119)
I agree with this and stand by my original comment that all are good except Derringer

I agree with this.

vintagechris 03-19-2021 01:52 PM

Here are a couple of certified Killebrews with similar styles. In addition, I have seen many, manny Killebrew's that look like these that originated from legitimate collections that came up for sale.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Harmon-Kill...Cclp%3A2334524

https://www.ebay.com/itm/HARMON-KILL...EAAOSwStheMemQ

BillyCoxDodgers3B 03-19-2021 01:52 PM

I'm sure anyone who has the interest can do the legwork themselves to find authenticated examples in this rushed style. As noted, this is a very common signature variation from late in Killebrew's career.

On another note, I've had some great exchanges with Derringer's son and asked him straight out about who was signing most of the mail for their Dad, as it clearly wasn't Derringer himself. Most of the time, it looked like the work of children. Well, that's exactly what it turned out to be! The children would sit around the table with their Dad and answer his mail for him!

Also, anyone who has interest in buying Derringer's autograph, do not buy it for the slab it's in! This is especially true of that Fleer cards he appeared on. I've sadly seen at least two of the major TPAs "authenticate" the examples of these cards signed by Derringer's kids. I have no idea how that happened, as the autograph bears no resemblance to that of Derringer. I did not retain scans of these, however. Just use caution, as they've popped up on eBay from time to time. If the signature appears slowly drawn (by a child, no less), stay away. It should be easy for anyone to spot. One of the kids would use exaggeratedly tall P's and D's.

shelly 03-19-2021 02:50 PM

I was wrong. it wont be the first or last :D:D I will stick with what I know.

pt7464 04-05-2021 12:48 PM

Update cards I just got back from JSA
 
All the cards I sent in passed. Going to be sending in some others later on in the week.

Lordstan 04-05-2021 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by pt7464 (Post 2089846)
All the cards I sent in passed. Going to be sending in some others later on in the week.

I'd be interested to hear if they passed the Derringer.
This is mine that i have had since the 80s. To me it looks very much like a rushed version of many of the ine i have seen that i think are real.
The one you posted does not.

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pt7464 04-05-2021 02:02 PM

Derringer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lordstan (Post 2089862)
I'd be interested to hear if they passed the Derringer.
This is mine that i have had since the 80s. To me it looks very much like a rushed version of many of the ine i have seen that i think are real.
The one you posted does not.

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I didn't send in the Derringer based on the feedback from the people on the boards. They didn't think it would pass.

Lordstan 04-05-2021 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pt7464 (Post 2089880)
I didn't send in the Derringer based on the feedback from the people on the boards. They didn't think it would pass.

Ah. Ok. I dont either. Was just wondering.

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Duluth Eskimo 04-05-2021 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lordstan (Post 2089862)
I'd be interested to hear if they passed the Derringer.
This is mine that i have had since the 80s. To me it looks very much like a rushed version of many of the ine i have seen that i think are real.
The one you posted does not.

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I would say this Derringer is good, but I don’t think they look alike. Looks like it was signed many years ago. Looks like a GPC I have.


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