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mds308 07-22-2014 12:25 PM

Real DiMaggio Autograph ?
 
Any help would be appreciated. I have little money in the ball so I have nothing to lose and everything to gain. It's on a Bobby Brown AL ball. Let me know what you think. Real or Faux ?


http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/...mds308/joe.jpg

http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/...ds308/joe1.jpg

http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/...ds308/joe2.jpg

http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/...ds308/joe3.jpg

GrayGhost 07-22-2014 12:52 PM

Not really totally confident, but would lean toward "that's good"

shelly 07-22-2014 03:57 PM

It would be nice if you posted your name. Is is also nice to know that you have nothing to lose and everything to gain at no cost to you. :)

mds308 07-22-2014 04:03 PM

My name is Michael.

David Atkatz 07-22-2014 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shelly (Post 1300769)
It would be nice if you posted your name. Is is also nice to know that you have nothing to lose and everything to gain at no cost to you. :)

Uh oh... The "Advice Nazi" strikes again. "No advice for you!"

thetruthisoutthere 07-22-2014 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Atkatz (Post 1300787)
Uh oh... The "Advice Nazi" strikes again. "No advice for you!"


Are you aware of Shelly's family history in Europe?

Your "Advice Nazi" was an inappropriate choice of words.

By the way, Mr. Atkatz, what is your opinion on the Joe DiMaggio?

mds308 07-22-2014 05:30 PM

All I wanted was some advice on the ball and with the exception of one person all I'm getting is useless comments. As for the Nazi comment, I have a very Jewish last name and I DID NOT find the Seinfeld reference comment offensive. Just useless and humorless. What a great first impression for my first post.

thetruthisoutthere 07-22-2014 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mds308 (Post 1300807)
All I wanted was some advice on the ball and with the exception of one person all I'm getting is useless comments. As for the Nazi comment, I have a very Jewish last name and I DID NOT find the Seinfeld reference comment offensive. Just useless and humorless. What a great first impression for my first post.

You already got your answer over here, Michael, didn't you.

http://live.autographmagazine.com/fo...joe-difauxggio

toyman55 07-22-2014 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mds308 (Post 1300807)
All I wanted was some advice on the ball and with the exception of one person all I'm getting is useless comments. As for the Nazi comment, I have a very Jewish last name and I DID NOT find the Seinfeld reference comment offensive. Just useless and humorless. What a great first impression for my first post.

I have been on this forum now for 4 years and though I am not bothered by the banter, bickering and insults thrown around on some of the forum discussions I am disturbed when what I find a Anti Semitic remark is made. I am Jewish as well though my family came here at the turn of the century from Russia to escape killing of Jews by the pogroms. Many of my friends parents were lucky to survive the Nazi camps thankfully but many more were killed. I would not ask David for an apology, He has been a great help to me as well as others on autographs. It is up to him if he feels it be appropriate. As far as Michael is concerned and I have learned this the hard way, you need to disclose all you can about your item including if you have had others look at it and give an opinion. Lets please avoid any remarks here that attach someone personally. Attack them for being ignorant, naive, or for lying if that is what makes you feel better.
Last, Thank you Leon for such a great forum we all enjoy.

RichardSimon 07-22-2014 06:15 PM

Shale,
David has insisted on attacking Shelly personally. That is the only personal attack I have seen on this thread due to Chris posting it, as I have David on a block to avoid seeing his usual personal attacks which are usually directed toward Shelly and/or Chris.

mds308 07-22-2014 07:03 PM

Quote:

You already got your answer over here, Michael, didn't you.

http://live.autographmagazine.com/fo...joe-difauxggio
At the other site I received one ignorant response followed by a genuine response followed by two yes-men. I was referred to this site by a good friend who recommended the knowledge of its users. He informed me that the good folks here would be able to help ID the ball. Is there something wrong with learning from two different forums?

Before anybody criticizes me for a duplicate post, by mistake, I had posted this question in another section of this forum. In my defense, I have emailed the moderator and asked him to remove the first post.

Can't we all just get along? :)

shelly 07-22-2014 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mds308 (Post 1300842)
At the other site I received one ignorant response followed by a genuine response followed by two yes-men. I was referred to this site by a good friend who recommended the knowledge of its users. He informed me that the good folks here would be able to help ID the ball. Is there something wrong with learning from two different forums?

Before anybody criticizes me for a duplicate post, by mistake, I had posted this question in another section of this forum. In my defense, I have emailed the moderator and asked him to remove the first post.

Can't we all just get along? :)

Yes, of course you can, but from what I read the responce you recived is spot on. The ball is authentic but so faded it will not get much for it.
Am I missing anything.
The one thing you will never get on this site is yes men. Everyone has an opinion but most of the time it works out to be the correct answer.

Deertick 07-22-2014 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shelly (Post 1300769)
It would be nice if you posted your name. Is is also nice to know that you have nothing to lose and everything to gain at no cost to you. :)

Shelly,
You have stated several times that you will no longer offer your autograph expertise to anyone that hasn't been a member for one (or two, or five, whatever) years. I would respectively submit that adhering to that decision would be preferable to what you have been doing lately with unsuspecting newcomers.

While anyone may be subject to some scrutiny (and some deservedly so), I think that a few questions with an attitude of 'help first' would serve us all better.

shelly 07-22-2014 07:23 PM

Not a problem. You take it from here. Remember there just babes in the woods. You can help them all you want.

David Atkatz 07-22-2014 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere (Post 1300804)
Are you aware of Shelly's family history in Europe?

Your "Advice Nazi" was an inappropriate choice of words.

By the way, Mr. Atkatz, what is your opinion on the Joe DiMaggio?

Chris, as the OP said, there was nothing inappropriate about the Seinfeld reference. I'm sure that Seinfeld, and Larry David, and every other Jew associated with that show lost relatives in the Holocaust, too

As did I. The name "Atkatz" is a bastardization of the name of a town in Lithuania. That town no longer exists. Wanna guess where it went? On my other side, my maternal grandfather, Isadore Horowitz, came here from Lodz, Poland. Ever hear of the Lodz Ghetto? I don't think the Horowitzs left behind fared too well.

I've enjoyed getting along with you lately, Chris, and I'd like to keep it that way. So, to reiterate, there was nothing inappropriate about what I said.

My opinion on the DiMaggio is not relevant. I'm no expert on DiMaggio, so my opinion would be worthless.

David Atkatz 07-22-2014 07:30 PM

Just saw your post, Shale. I'm sorry if I offended you, but, really, offended by a play on Seinfeld's Soup Nazi? I always thought we Jews--especially those of Eastern European descent--had a sense of humor.
I hope you'll read what I (a Lidvock/Polish Jew, and very proud of it) posted above.

mds308 07-22-2014 07:43 PM

Shelly,

Thank you. This was all I asked for.

David,

Russian, Romanian & Polish (and as Cartman from South Park would say) J-O-O.

MikeKam 07-22-2014 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mds308 (Post 1300842)
At the other site I received one ignorant response followed by a genuine response followed by two yes-men. I was referred to this site by a good friend who recommended the knowledge of its users. He informed me that the good folks here would be able to help ID the ball. Is there something wrong with learning from two different forums?

Before anybody criticizes me for a duplicate post, by mistake, I had posted this question in another section of this forum. In my defense, I have emailed the moderator and asked him to remove the first post.

Can't we all just get along? :)

:(

Runscott 07-22-2014 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mds308 (Post 1300807)
All I wanted was some advice on the ball and with the exception of one person all I'm getting is useless comments. As for the Nazi comment, I have a very Jewish last name and I DID NOT find the Seinfeld reference comment offensive. Just useless and humorless. What a great first impression for my first post.

We've been labeled 'useless' by the 6-post guy twice in one post. I think that's a new record. Not to defend anything anyone has done in your thread, but if it were me, I'd read a few threads of similar ilk before posting. You'll find that there are about, oh...a gazillion threads asking if items signed by DiMaggio, Ruth, Mantle, Koufax, etc., are real. Such threads could give you an idea of how to walk about in here, and what to expect. You would find that we've had a lot of new guys asking such questions and the responses were not always real nice, and the reactions to civil responses were not always very respectful (We frequently give free advice and get our asses kicked for it). Also keep in mind that it's an internet forum, so while it's probably the best one (in the entire internet, including Canada), you are guaranteed to have to read lots of crap, even in your own thread that you personally started, where you would like to rule exactly how everyone responds.

In fact, I bet I get a wrist-slap from someone for this post, and that's fine.

..and welcome.

Lordstan 07-22-2014 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Runscott (Post 1300895)

In fact, I bet I get a wrist-slap from someone for this post, and that's fine.

..and welcome.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...tan/mb1y04.gif

David Atkatz 07-22-2014 09:14 PM

Three more Eastern European Jews!

Lordstan 07-22-2014 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Atkatz (Post 1300912)
Three more Eastern European Jews!

Though I'm not Jewish, I'm glad I could contribute in a positive way!

Runscott 07-22-2014 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lordstan (Post 1300911)

Someone told me that I could be the 3rd stooge in their group. I wisely chose Moe. "With a rebel yell, I cried Moe, Moe, Moe....Moe Moe Moe!!!"

RichardSimon 07-23-2014 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lordstan (Post 1300916)
Though I'm not Jewish, I'm glad I could contribute in a positive way!

This club allows non Jews to join also,, glad to have you aboard :):).

Fuddjcal 07-23-2014 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Atkatz (Post 1300854)
Chris, as the OP said, there was nothing inappropriate about the Seinfeld reference. I'm sure that Seinfeld, and Larry David, and every other Jew associated with that show lost relatives in the Holocaust, too

As did I. The name "Atkatz" is a bastardization of the name of a town in Lithuania. That town no longer exists. Wanna guess where it went? On my other side, my maternal grandfather, Isadore Horowitz, came here from Lodz, Poland. Ever hear of the Lodz Ghetto? I don't think the Horowitzs left behind fared too well.

I've enjoyed getting along with you lately, Chris, and I'd like to keep it that way. So, to reiterate, there was nothing inappropriate about what I said.

My opinion on the DiMaggio is not relevant. I'm no expert on DiMaggio, so my opinion would be worthless.

I'm Jewish too and I wasn't offended in the least about the "Autograph Nazi" remark. I thought it was funny. Werdesheims, Bercovich's & Horkheimers OH MY. With a name like Tapia? Go Figure. Shelly has thick skin and it's ok to bust balls once in a while.:D

Oh, and the Dimaggio is authentic and faded worth about 150-180 IMHO

packs 07-23-2014 09:52 AM

Sometimes this forum gets a little too "Nick The Computer Guy"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfKL6RM8hsY

shelly 07-23-2014 11:01 AM

Mark, Richard forgot to mention the Mohel.:eek:

Lordstan 07-23-2014 02:24 PM

Richard,
Thanks for the invite, but If Shelly's comment does have me rethinking a little bit. One snip per lifetime is enough I think.
Best,
Mark

https://screen.yahoo.com/royal-deluxe-ii-000000400.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCl53K1uJTQ

RichardSimon 07-23-2014 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lordstan (Post 1301115)
Richard,
Thanks for the invite, but If Shelly's comment does have me rethinking a little bit. One snip per lifetime is enough I think.
Best,
Mark

https://screen.yahoo.com/royal-deluxe-ii-000000400.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCl53K1uJTQ

I have been told that it only hurts for 24 hours :)

Exhibitman 07-23-2014 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lordstan (Post 1300916)
Though I'm not Jewish, I'm glad I could contribute in a positive way!

You don't have to be Jewish to contribute here...but it couldn't hurt. You can spin the driedel with Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock [both Jewish]

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...%20Shatner.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...OS%20Nimoy.jpg

Exhibitman 07-23-2014 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardSimon (Post 1301174)
I have been told that it only hurts for 24 hours :)

Yeah, that's what they told me to sell me on a vasectomy. Six months later when I could cross my legs again without screaming...

"Easier than a dental filling" they said. Riiigghhhhtttt.... When I get a filling I get valium before, nitrous during and vicodin after. For a vasectomy I got a local and Tylenol. Tylenol! They might as well have waved a chicken bone and chanted over my sack--it's gotta be as effective at relieving pain as Tylenol and I can drink afterwards.

I didn't even want the damned vasectomy; it was a birthday present from my wife.

Lordstan 07-23-2014 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 1301182)
Yeah, that's what they told me to sell me on a vasectomy. Six months later when I could cross my legs again without screaming...

"Easier than a dental filling" they said. Riiigghhhhtttt.... When I get a filling I get valium before, nitrous during and vicodin after. For a vasectomy I got a local and Tylenol. Tylenol! They might as well have waved a chicken bone and chanted over my sack--it's gotta be as effective at relieving pain as Tylenol and I can drink afterwards.

I didn't even want the damned vasectomy; it was a birthday present from my wife.

Mazel tov and Zei Gezunt!

See. A little more practice and I'll have it all down.

Lordstan 07-23-2014 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 1301181)
You don't have to be Jewish to contribute here...but it couldn't hurt. You can spin the driedel with Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock [both Jewish]

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...%20Shatner.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...OS%20Nimoy.jpg

L'bn l'ang 'wn g'dyya'n
(Live long and Prosper in Yiddish)

OK. I admit I had to look that one up.

mds308 07-23-2014 07:12 PM

Look what I started. I guess all is well that ends well. I hope I didn't burn any bridges. Thanks to everyone that replied. I realize when you come to a forum as a new guy it's like coming into a strangers house only this time I forgot to wipe my feet and I didn't put the seat down when I was finished. My bad. Thanks again and I really do appreciate the help, advice and comments.

Michael

JT 07-23-2014 07:43 PM

.....and to cap it all off....Adam Sandler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeC8...e_gdata_player

Nyygameused 07-23-2014 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mds308 (Post 1301240)
Look what I started. I guess all is well that ends well. I hope I didn't burn any bridges. Thanks to everyone that replied. I realize when you come to a forum as a new guy it's like coming into a strangers house only this time I forgot to wipe my feet and I didn't put the seat down when I was finished. My bad. Thanks again and I really do appreciate the help, advice and comments.

Michael

Nah not at all, you walked into a zoo and the "lions" attacked. I felt the same way. There are some awesome knowledgeable people on this forum. However some take a "new" guy as a scam artist from the get. From another "new guy" welcome

shelly 07-23-2014 08:56 PM

Sorry, I started this and I will end this. Most of the time when you enter a zoo you know what your going to get. I am sure that is true with you.
When people asked for your name you said I am the most famous guy in the new industry. Not one person has any idea what and who you are.
They do know that a donkey might be called a mule but there is big defense. When you grow up and find out what is missing come back on here.
A zoo is there to make people see something they might have never seen before. You are someone we will see over and over again.:(

Nyygameused 07-23-2014 09:04 PM

You will come to learn mr. Shelly= mr. Negativity to all your post. He seems to want to win every argument (even when not presented).

Deertick 07-23-2014 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shelly (Post 1301305)
Sorry, I started this and I will end this. Most of the time when you enter a zoo you know what your going to get. I am sure that is true with you.
When people asked for your name you said I am the most famous guy in the new industry. Not one person has any idea what and who you are.
They do know that a donkey might be called a mule but there is big defense. When you grow up and find out what is missing come back on here.
A zoo is there to make people see something they might have never seen before. You are someone we will see over and over again.:(

Reminds me of the famous "Chuck, there are 3 kinds of people in the world: D##ks, P***ies, and Ass****les." speech of 2004. Found in the documentary Team America:World Police.

Deertick 07-23-2014 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nyygameused (Post 1301309)
You will come to learn mr. Shelly= mr. Negativity to all your post. He seems to want to win every argument (even when not presented).

Not entirely true. If one chooses to answer direct questions in an obtuse manner, or stands on the "Do you know who I AM? method of retort, Yes Shelly will be there a-banging as will many of us. Sometimes smoke is just smoke. But sometimes it's not. Shelly is like the drug dog who marks on every bag and makes us all go thru special screening at the airport. If we don't vette properly, the forgers have won.
I am 3 seconds fro ambienihilation.

Nyygameused 07-23-2014 10:20 PM

If not The cops of the internet..... Who will protect us?

ocjack 07-24-2014 07:45 AM

Just wondering, as a Jew on this site, are we considered by others to be "trimmed?" ;)

mds308 07-24-2014 08:24 AM

All my autographed balls have mini Kippahs.

Runscott 07-24-2014 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nyygameused (Post 1301309)
You will come to learn mr. Shelly= mr. Negativity to all your post. He seems to want to win every argument (even when not presented).

You are projecting. You dug your heels in and refused to budge when a few simple requests were put to you. Since then you've done nothing to make things any better. Alienating Shelly and quite a few others on this forum isn't doing you any good, and you've made it very obvious that you could care less.

So don't compare yourself to this guy - like me and many others here, he figured things out and he's here to have some fun.

shelly 07-24-2014 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ocjack (Post 1301427)
Just wondering, as a Jew on this site, are we considered by others to be "trimmed?" ;)

The question is do the women grade it authentic:D

RichardSimon 07-24-2014 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shelly (Post 1301506)
The question is do the women grade it authentic:D

Good to see that an old(er) man has not lost interest :).

Nyygameused 07-24-2014 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Runscott (Post 1301474)
You are projecting. You dug your heels in and refused to budge when a few simple requests were put to you. Since then you've done nothing to make things any better. Alienating Shelly and quite a few others on this forum isn't doing you any good, and you've made it very obvious that you could care less.

So don't compare yourself to this guy - like me and many others here, he figured things out and he's here to have some fun.

I was "alienated" first on here sir, regardless of that fact I decided not to leave this forum. What stance can one take when every follow up to one of his/her post is a negative and or argumentative one? I haven't put anyone down/ alienated anyone on here (I'm not sure how one can do so over the internet anyway)

Runscott 07-24-2014 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nyygameused (Post 1301565)
I was "alienated" first on here sir, regardless of that fact I decided not to leave this forum. What stance can one take when every follow up to one of his/her post is a negative and or argumentative one? I haven't put anyone down/ alienated anyone on here (I'm not sure how one can do so over the internet anyway)

Well, then I guess taking a shot at people here any chance you get, is your only option :rolleyes: Good luck with that.

shelly 07-24-2014 03:38 PM

[QUOTE=Lordstan;1301115]Richard,
Thanks for the invite, but If Shelly's comment does have me rethinking a little bit. One snip per lifetime is enough I think.
Best,
Mark
Mark I think you made a wise decision:eek:


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Runscott 07-24-2014 03:40 PM

I have a friend who did it 3 times, undone twice, both times to have more children with a new wife. Other than that, he seemed like an intelligent guy.


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