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irv 01-30-2021 10:46 AM

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I'm beginning to think that Bob's set may be a little nicer than mine, but that's ok. :)

I'm thinking the same. :D

Here's mine.

jayshum 01-30-2021 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by irv (Post 2062004)
I'm thinking the same. :D

Here's mine.

It looks like most of your set is also nicer than mine, but I already knew that. I'm perfectly happy with what I have since if I spent more on my 52 Topps, I wouldn't have been able to buy some of the other cards in my collection.

LincolnVT 01-30-2021 12:09 PM

Having a complete 52 set in any numeric grade is a huge accomplishment in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by jayshum (Post 2062025)
It looks like most of your set is also nicer than mine, but I already knew that. I'm perfectly happy with what I have since if I spent more on my 52 Topps, I wouldn't have been able to buy some of the other cards in my collection.


irv 01-30-2021 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jayshum (Post 2062025)
It looks like most of your set is also nicer than mine, but I already knew that. I'm perfectly happy with what I have since if I spent more on my 52 Topps, I wouldn't have been able to buy some of the other cards in my collection.

Don't forget, (if you knew?) I was given 148 Topps cards to begin with, including my Mantle, Mays and Robinson, so it's not like I began from scratch. I definitely had an advantage over others as I had some equity/value built up before I even began on my own.

Based on the cards I collected outside of those 148, I tried to collect cards that fit the condition of those the best I could. Some are nicer, some are worse, but most are around the 2-4 range with a few 5's here and there thrown in.

jayshum 01-30-2021 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by irv (Post 2062068)
Don't forget, (if you knew?) I was given 148 Topps cards to begin with, including my Mantle, Mays and Robinson, so it's not like I began from scratch. I definitely had an advantage over others as I had some equity/value built up before I even began on my own.

Based on the cards I collected outside of those 148, I tried to collect cards that fit the condition of those the best I could. Some are nicer, some are worse, but most are around the 2-4 range with a few 5's here and there thrown in.

I remember you telling me you got a decent size lot to start your set.

I don't think I have any regrets about any cards I have purchased. I have always looked for cards with decent eye appeal with certain criteria - no rips, pinholes, paper loss or writing (front or back), and no part of another card visible. Many of my cards have creases, corner wear, etc, but I always try to buy a card that I am happy with instead of buying to fill a hole and then planning to upgrade later. That never seems to work out well so once I buy something, I'm usually planning on keeping it.

Lately, I have more regrets about cards I didn't buy because trying to buy them now is going to cost a lot more than it would have when I had the chance before.

irv 01-30-2021 02:15 PM

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I remember you telling me you got a decent size lot to start your set.

I don't think I have any regrets about any cards I have purchased. I have always looked for cards with decent eye appeal with certain criteria - no rips, pinholes, paper loss or writing (front or back), and no part of another card visible. Many of my cards have creases, corner wear, etc, but I always try to buy a card that I am happy with instead of buying to fill a hole and then planning to upgrade later. That never seems to work out well so once I buy something, I'm usually planning on keeping it.

Lately, I have more regrets about cards I didn't buy because trying to buy them now is going to cost a lot more than it would have when I had the chance before.

Back in 16, when I began collecting again, I went at a feverish pace collecting as many 52's as I could so centering, etc, wasn't as important to me as it is now.
I regretted that decision not long ago as I wished I had of taken more time to be a bit more choosy, but at the same time, in retrospect, if I had of done that, I likely wouldn't be as far ahead as I currently am and it definitely would have been more expensive then and especially now.

I've upgraded a few cards here and there but for the most part, I have backed way off lately and have mainly focused on hockey cards. With the exchange rate, shipping, duty, etc, it just became too expensive to carry on doing that but I haven't given up entirely. :D
These are 2 new additions. The Irv Dusak card is one I thought I had but I must have gotten him confused with Erv Palica? My low number run is now officially officially done as I jumped the gun before thinking it was. :o
The regular Frank House card is also one I didn't have but I do own a Yellow Tiger copy.

jayshum 01-30-2021 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by irv (Post 2062087)
Back in 16, when I began collecting again, I went at a feverish pace collecting as many 52's as I could so centering, etc, wasn't as important to me as it is now.
I regretted that decision not long ago as I wished I had of taken more time to be a bit more choosy, but at the same time, in retrospect, if I had of done that, I likely wouldn't be as far ahead as I currently am and it definitely would have been more expensive then and especially now.

I've upgraded a few cards here and there but for the most part, I have backed way off lately and have mainly focused on hockey cards. With the exchange rate, shipping, duty, etc, it just became too expensive to carry on doing that but I haven't given up entirely. :D
These are 2 new additions. The Irv Dusak card is one I thought I had but I must have gotten him confused with Erv Palica? My low number run is now officially officially done as I jumped the gun before thinking it was. :o
The regular Frank House card is also one I didn't have but I do own a Yellow Tiger copy.

Congrats on finishing the low numbers again.

jayshum 01-30-2021 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by irv (Post 2062087)
I've upgraded a few cards here and there but for the most part, I have backed way off lately and have mainly focused on hockey cards. With the exchange rate, shipping, duty, etc, it just became too expensive to carry on doing that but I haven't given up entirely. :D

Maybe we can set up a "vault" for you in the US to ship your cards to instead of shipping them to Canada. Then you can stop by and pick them up the next time you are in the country, assuming they ever re-open the borders.

LincolnVT 01-30-2021 05:10 PM

52
 
Nice card.

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Two in a row for me.


irv 01-31-2021 07:19 AM

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Maybe we can set up a "vault" for you in the US to ship your cards to instead of shipping them to Canada. Then you can stop by and pick them up the next time you are in the country, assuming they ever re-open the borders.

That is something I likely should have done a few years ago. I was told that by more than a few members here but I never did follow through. The closest border to me is a 2 hour drive one way so its not exactly, imo, a much better option.

Here's my Johnny Bucha. A card that I've definitely thought of upgrading for a while now.

jayshum 01-31-2021 07:20 AM

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Looks like I'm going first second today with Bucha. I was first when I started creating the post. :)

jayshum 01-31-2021 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by irv (Post 2062329)
That is something I likely should have done a few years ago. I was told that by more than a few members here but I never did follow through. The closest border to me is a 2 hour drive one way so its not exactly, imo, a much better option.

You mean someone had the idea before PWCC actually created one in Oregon to help avoid sales tax?

irv 01-31-2021 07:36 AM

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you mean someone had the idea before pwcc actually created one in oregon to help avoid sales tax?

lol. :d

LincolnVT 01-31-2021 08:09 AM

Bucha
 
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My copy.

smellthegum 01-31-2021 02:44 PM

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Here's mine

ALR-bishop 01-31-2021 03:03 PM

Because of the contract wars with Bowman the 52 set has many guys like Bucha who did not play in the majors in 52. He was up with the Cardinals in 48 and 50 and with Detroit in 53. It would be interesting to do a count sometime of how many of those pictured in the 52 set were not in the majors that year, or were there as coaches or managers. Maybe someone here knows

Republicaninmass 01-31-2021 04:08 PM

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Maybe someone here knows


Hi Al!


Bucha
Page
Rickert
Wellman

Off the top of my head

tedzan 02-01-2021 05:45 AM

1952 Billy Loes
 
https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...lyLoesBkRd.jpg

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TED Z

T206 Reference
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LincolnVT 02-01-2021 05:49 AM

Loes
 
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Great looking examples Ted! Here is my copy. I love how bold this card is.

ALR-bishop 02-01-2021 07:14 AM

A factoid about Loes. He is one of 5 players in the 52 set who does not appear in the 1983 Topps Reprint of the 52 set. The others are D Dimagio, S Rogovin, S Hemus and T Holmes. Presumably Topps was unable to get sufficient approval from the player or his family, or from it’s original contract to reuse the player’s likeness

smellthegum 02-01-2021 07:18 AM

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My poorly centered BB Loes

ALR-bishop 02-01-2021 07:32 AM

In post 102 I provided a link to the checklist for what Huggins & Scott called the Topps 1952 Super Set of 579, which contains 29 cards more then the PSA Registry Master set of 550. Most of the additional cards they include are really just recurring print defects.

One involves the Loes card, which it says can be found in black back with a border irregularity in the lower left front border. I have not found one. If anyone here has one can they please post it. In looking for it I did come across this one, also a black back. This defect is scarce but does recur in different sizes

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds

LincolnVT 02-01-2021 07:58 AM

Border
 
Looks like the Black Backs posted above do have a border irregularity when compared to the red backs. Interesting.

jayshum 02-01-2021 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ALR-bishop (Post 2062868)
In post 102 I provided a link to the checklist for what Huggins & Scott called the Topps 1952 Super Set of 579, which contains 29 cards more then the PSA Registry Master set of 550. Most of the additional cards they include are really just recurring print defects.

One involves the Loes card, which it says can be found in black back with a border irregularity in the lower left front border. I have not found one. If anyone here has one can they please post it. In looking for it I did come across this one, also a black back. This defect is scarce but does recur in different sizes

It looks like the black border just under the left end of the box where his name is has a little bit missing compared to the same spot on the red back card. Is that the irregularity you are talking about or is it something else?

Republicaninmass 02-01-2021 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ALR-bishop (Post 2062859)
A factoid about Loes. He is one of 5 players in the 52 set who does not appear in the 1983 Topps Reprint of the 52 set. The others are D Dimagio, S Rogovin, S Hemus and T Holmes. Presumably Topps was unable to get sufficient approval from the player or his family, or from it’s original contract to reuse the player’s likeness

Hi Al! When I met Ralph Branca, we spoke about this. Apparently Branca was asked to talk to Loes about signing off. Loes was not in as good of a financial position as branca and was holding out for more money. Branca said " billy, they are paying just as much as they did the first time around, for the same thing". Loes never signed.

ALR-bishop 02-01-2021 09:58 AM

Jay, as usual I am not sure what I am talking about. The H&S checklist just says his BB can be found with a "frame break in lower left one third". I see what you are pointing out, but for there to be 3 versions of the Loes card as suggested by the H&S checklist the BB Loes has to also exist without that irregularity as well.

jayshum 02-01-2021 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ALR-bishop (Post 2062926)
Jay, as usual I am not sure what I am talking about. The H&S checklist just says his BB can be found with a "frame break in lower left one third". I see what you are pointing out, but for there to be 3 versions of the Loes card as suggested by the H&S checklist the BB Loes has to also exist without that irregularity as well.

If so, then without is apparently the rarer version since all the cards posted so far are the same, as you indicated.

ALR-bishop 02-01-2021 10:55 AM

Agreed, if that is the "frame break in lower left one third" I was always looking in the lower part of the left border, but guess it could refer to bottom border, left 1/3 portion :confused:. Thanks for input

Edit---there are BBs on ebay without the defect, so think you nailed it. Thanks

irv 02-01-2021 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ALR-bishop (Post 2062859)
A factoid about Loes. He is one of 5 players in the 52 set who does not appear in the 1983 Topps Reprint of the 52 set. The others are D Dimagio, S Rogovin, S Hemus and T Holmes. Presumably Topps was unable to get sufficient approval from the player or his family, or from it’s original contract to reuse the player’s likeness

Thanks for sharing, Al.
No, is likely the the answer, but were any players added to the reprint set that weren't in the original set?

Here is my Mr. Loes.

jayshum 02-01-2021 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ALR-bishop (Post 2062948)
Agreed, if that is the "frame break in lower left one third" I was always looking in the lower part of the left border, but guess it could refer to bottom border, left 1/3 portion :confused:. Thanks for input

Edit---there are BBs on ebay without the defect, so think you nailed it. Thanks

Here's a picture of a Loes black back from an eBay listing (Greg Morris) with the border complete so looks like that is what the variation is talking about. For me, it's not worth chasing variations like this, but I know some people like to.

ALR-bishop 02-01-2021 11:48 AM

Agree with you Jay that such minor print defects are not of much interest to most collectors. Only if a minor print defect like the 58 Herrer, 57 Bakep, 61 Fairly, or 52 Campos black star get formal hobby recognition do they become popular with collectors or must haves for master set collectors

I was interested in the Loes because of it’s listing in the H&S set but not sure what it was. Now I know, thanks

jayshum 02-01-2021 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ALR-bishop (Post 2062974)
Agree with you Jay that such minor print defects are not of much interest to most collectors. Only if a minor print defect like the 58 Herrer, 57 Bakep, 61 Fairly, or 52 Campos black star get formal hobby recognition do they become popular with collectors or must haves for master set collectors

I was interested in the Loes because of it’s listing in the H&S set but not sure what it was. Now I know, thanks

Aside from seeing everyone's cards, it is things like this that have made the thread interesting since it is information about the 52 set that I was not previously aware of. I haven't looked at the rest of the H&S set list to see what else is on it, but maybe there is something that I would decide was different enough to want to look for.

LincolnVT 02-01-2021 12:46 PM

52 Topps publication
 
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I've been thumbing through this each day that the thread has been going. Great book if you don't yet have it.

ALR-bishop 02-01-2021 01:06 PM

Ethan---that book is a great resource


Jay---I have most and will post as we go through them. Others likely will as well

irv 02-01-2021 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by LincolnVT (Post 2063005)
I've been thumbing through this each day that the thread has been going. Great book if you don't yet have it.

I just received a copy a couple weeks ago from a CDN seller, thankfully, as I was unable to receive a copy when it first came out from the sellers.

I agree, great book. :)

LincolnVT 02-01-2021 01:21 PM

Book
 
Just wish my cards were as nice as the ones in the book! 😊

jayshum 02-01-2021 06:01 PM

I just ordered myself a copy of the book. There were also books about the T206 set and the 1914 and 1915 Cracker Jack sets by the same author so I bought them as well. I don't own any cards from those sets, but maybe some day...

bobsbbcards 02-02-2021 07:02 AM

https://caimages.collectors.com/psai...ps020aLoes.jpg https://caimages.collectors.com/psai...ps020bLoes.jpg

LincolnVT 02-02-2021 07:07 AM

Beautiful Bob!


LincolnVT 02-02-2021 07:10 AM

#21 Fain
 
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My copy.

BradW 02-02-2021 08:15 AM

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My Fain.

jayshum 02-02-2021 08:22 AM

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Fain

irv 02-02-2021 08:39 AM

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My Ferris.

jayshum 02-03-2021 06:16 AM

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The Little Professor

smellthegum 02-03-2021 06:27 AM

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Here's my Dom...

LincolnVT 02-03-2021 07:07 AM

Dom
 
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A little rough.

irv 02-03-2021 07:55 AM

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And my black back Dom DiMaggio.

jayshum 02-03-2021 08:06 AM

Looks like Dale has the best centered DiMaggio so far.

bobsbbcards 02-04-2021 06:14 AM

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irv 02-04-2021 07:19 AM

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Beautiful cards, Bob F. Thanks for posting them up!

Here's my Billy Goodman to start today off.

LincolnVT 02-04-2021 07:27 AM

Goodman
 
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My copy.

jayshum 02-04-2021 07:57 AM

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My Goodmans. Big difference in the background colors for the red and black backs.

LincolnVT 02-04-2021 08:10 AM

52 Topps
 
Why do everyone's cards look mint compared to mine?

Gorditadogg 02-04-2021 12:00 PM

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All right, I can post my card! I have been waiting for 23 days to be able to do this. I never was much interested in this set until I started reading the threads here, and seeing how much devotion there is to it I decided to pick a few up. Here is my #23 Goodman red back.

smellthegum 02-04-2021 12:33 PM

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This here Goodman is a red back.

irv 02-04-2021 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Gorditadogg (Post 2064374)
All right, I can post my card! I have been waiting for 23 days to be able to do this. I never was much interested in this set until I started reading the threads here, and seeing how much devotion there is to it I decided to pick a few up. Here is my #23 Goodman red back.

Nice first card!

Good luck with your quest for more if that's the path you choose. :)

Tom S. 02-04-2021 05:32 PM

Goodman
 
Much like Brad W. said earlier (in post #154), I also recently started a 52 Topps set in November. I'm about 60 cards into my PSA set so far.

I also have a few raw cards and SGC graded ones (that will eventually be cracked) which will be sent to PSA in the future.

Here is my Billy Goodman:

https://caimages.collectors.com/psai...7_original.jpghttps://caimages.collectors.com/psai...8_original.jpg

cheshirefilms 02-04-2021 06:27 PM

Lots of Good mans!

ALR-bishop 02-04-2021 07:38 PM

Nice “low slats” version of Feller, a card far ahead of it’s time :)

irv 02-04-2021 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cheshirefilms (Post 2064533)
Lots of Good mans! Time to throw out the Heater from Van Meter.

Welcome to the site, Cheshire.:)

Nice card, and although I can understand you wanting to show it, we are doing a card #1 through to #407 with each card posted in numeric order every day.

Tomorrow will be card #24 Luke Easter if you have one?

Enjoy the site.

cheshirefilms 02-04-2021 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by irv (Post 2064568)
Welcome to the site, Cheshire.:)



Nice card, and although I can understand you wanting to show it, we are doing a card #1 through to #407 with each card posted in numeric order every day.



Tomorrow will be card #24 Luke Easter if you have one?



Enjoy the site.

Disregard my interruption, I revised it out. As an Indians fan I should have it but right now I only have but one 52 Topps

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bobsbbcards 02-05-2021 04:57 AM

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jayshum 02-05-2021 05:51 AM

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Luke

LincolnVT 02-05-2021 06:27 AM

Easter
 
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My copy.

irv 02-05-2021 07:13 AM

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My Luke.

Luke was a great man, so I have read, but was murdered while cashing in payroll checks. :(

"March 29, 1979
On March 29, 1979, he was shot and killed outside a bank at East 260th Street and Euclid Avenue while transporting over $5,000 from payroll checks. Easter was approached by two robbers armed with shotguns and after refusing to turn over the funds, he was shot twice at close range"


https://www.baseball-almanac.com/min...e/minor9.shtml

bks14sr 02-05-2021 07:23 AM

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jingram058 02-05-2021 08:53 AM

A lot of what I hold near and dear about baseball I got from my dad, who was a HUGE baseball fan and a storehouse of stories, facts and figures. I remember my dad talking about Luke Easter, who he obviously liked, who "had a charismatic, bigger than life personality just like Babe Ruth".

Tom S. 02-05-2021 08:53 AM

Easter
 
My Luke Easter card:

https://caimages.collectors.com/psai...9_original.jpghttps://caimages.collectors.com/psai...0_original.jpg

irv 02-05-2021 11:38 AM

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A lot of what I hold near and dear about baseball I got from my dad, who was a HUGE baseball fan and a storehouse of stories, facts and figures. I remember my dad talking about Luke Easter, who he obviously liked, who "had a charismatic, bigger than life personality just like Babe Ruth".

This is a great article about Luke that I read sometime ago that has always stuck with me.
https://buffalonews.com/news/easter-...af82b03c4.html

bobsbbcards 02-06-2021 06:03 AM

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smellthegum 02-06-2021 06:16 AM

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Easter for yesterday and Groth to get things started today

LincolnVT 02-06-2021 06:52 AM

Groth
 
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My copy.

irv 02-06-2021 07:28 AM

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And my Mr. Groth.

jayshum 02-06-2021 08:29 AM

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Here's what I have.

Tom S. 02-06-2021 08:34 AM

Groth
 
Here's my Johnny Groth currently in a SGC slab. I intend on cracking it out and sending it in to PSA with the hope of it crossing over to a 6.

https://www.collectorfocus.com/image...neous/76507/25https://www.collectorfocus.com/image...neous/76508/25

ALR-bishop 02-06-2021 08:44 AM

CU thread originally started by Bob Lemke tracking who is still among us from the 52 set


https://forums.collectors.com/discus...living-players

bobsbbcards 02-06-2021 05:19 PM

At the risk of jinxing him, "Way to still be alive, Mr. Groth!" :)

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irv 02-07-2021 06:52 AM

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CU thread originally started by Bob Lemke tracking who is still among us from the 52 set


https://forums.collectors.com/discus...living-players

Thanks for posting that, Al. :)

And a player with a great last name, Mr. Irvin. :)

Republicaninmass 02-07-2021 07:00 AM

Derailed! Missed the Groth spurt yesterday https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...8a46c8e87b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...74f81e516c.jpg

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LincolnVT 02-07-2021 07:46 AM

1952
 
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My Irvin.


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