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T206Collector 01-01-2011 06:42 PM

Is This The Ultimate Signed Pre-War Card (Lajoie 33 Goudey)?
 
For the past decade or so, my mother always gets me the Cooperstown Calendar (among other things) as a Christmas present. Imagine my shock and awe when I looked at March and saw an autographed 1933 Goudey Lajoie in the display. This has got to be the ultimate autographed pre-war auto -- beatable only by a signed T206 Wagner or T206 Plank. Obviously, it is hidden away from all collectors -- totally unobtainable -- and I would bet there is not another. How many collections are incomplete without this one? Autographed pre-war card collections? Signed HOF card collections? Lajoie collections? Simply an amazing card.

<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/CZ4BpvSN6pRQtPdDJ_geCYRT3dysq2WPtX5u9gk-z0Y?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_Ys7fw31kTDs/TR_VEURnNNI/AAAAAAAAI00/LJndR0VBLKw/s800/image0-14.jpg" height="800" width="581" /></a>

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Rob D. 01-01-2011 06:48 PM

I seem to remember a signed version of that card coming to auction in the past 10 years.

Matt 01-01-2011 06:48 PM

That's what I envision DeWolf's living room looks like.

T206Collector 01-01-2011 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob D. (Post 859358)
I seem to remember a signed version of that card coming to auction in the past 10 years.

WOW - I'd love the details on that one.

Kawika 01-01-2011 07:12 PM

A little Googling reveals that a signed Goudey Lajoie was sold in the Barry Halper auction in 1999. I don't have access to my catalog set to confirm - maybe someone else can have a look.

milkit1 01-01-2011 07:23 PM

Ive been after that card since I first saw it in 1988 on the Barry Halper collection video. It sold for about 28 g's.

AndyG09 01-01-2011 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kawika (Post 859370)
A little Googling reveals that a signed Goudey Lajoie was sold in the Barry Halper auction in 1999. I don't have access to my catalog set to confirm - maybe someone else can have a look.

Lot 922- The Lajoie card sold for $28,750.

Best, Andy

aaroncc 01-01-2011 08:04 PM

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From the Sotheby's Catalog.

T206Collector 01-01-2011 08:08 PM

So...
 
...the card is in private hands? But photographed by the Hall of Fame for its Cooperstown Collection calendar? Or am I missing something?

glchen 01-01-2011 11:24 PM

How about a signed Baltimore News Ruth if one existed?

ethicsprof 01-02-2011 01:22 AM

paul m
 
'tis a beauty indeed.
are you thinking of parting with your Plank for this one?!

all the best,
barry

aaroncc 01-02-2011 09:53 AM

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REA auction 7/15/2000.

philliesphan 01-02-2011 11:34 AM

Barry told me..
 
Barry told me when he showed me the card [approximately 19 years ago.] that he traded it straight up for a minty-fresh Lajoie card that was in his collection. Obviously this was before professional grading, but Barry was super proud of the signed Lajoie, and he thought it was a huge huge score to trade his nice-conditioned example for this autographed one. Given that it was dated, as well, it seemed extra special to him.

M

milkit1 01-02-2011 11:59 AM

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sure would look good filling in my missing spot

Attachment 30154

packs 01-02-2011 01:57 PM

I would love to have a signed OJ. I wouldn't even care who the player was.

Steve D 01-02-2011 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by packs (Post 859531)
I would love to have a signed OJ. I wouldn't even care who the player was.


I agree, especially if it was a Cap Anson or Mike Kelly :D

Steve

T206Collector 01-03-2011 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethicsprof (Post 859437)
'tis a beauty indeed.
are you thinking of parting with your Plank for this one?!

all the best,
barry

Hah - No. I would make that trade in an instant, of course, but it is not likely one that I would ever be offered. Given the increase in interest in signed pre-war cards over the past decade, I think the Lajoie is worth $50K-$75K now, if not more...

oldjudge 01-03-2011 11:30 AM

Steve-The only signed Old Judge I know of is a signed Connie Mack (on the back). It has a large fountain pen signature which has been authenticated.

T206Collector 01-03-2011 11:38 AM

This is the Mack
 
Sold in the Oser auction in 2002:

http://legendaryauctions.com/LotDeta...x?lotid=28075#

<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/9fEdct3Z2JsQDjOPFuFx6IRT3dysq2WPtX5u9gk-z0Y?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Ys7fw31kTDs/TSIXmyX_eOI/AAAAAAAAI1Q/rbdEqxGxilk/s800/ConnieMackOJft2.jpeg" height="414" width="800" /></a>

benchod 01-03-2011 01:48 PM

I don't even collect autographs but that Mack is sweet
Nice image on the front too

packs 01-03-2011 01:54 PM

Wow only sold for $2000. Would probably go for close to that without the signature.

g_vezina_c55 05-28-2012 05:25 PM

I found this thread in the archive...

WOW i love this Lajoie card, it is the first time i see it.... verry nice card. Anybody know where is this card now ? In wich collection is this card ?


Anyway amazing card !

Robert_Lifson 05-28-2012 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T206Collector (Post 859388)
...the card is in private hands? But photographed by the Hall of Fame for its Cooperstown Collection calendar? Or am I missing something?

The autographed Lajoie is in the Hall of Fame's collection. Barry Halper always thought the Hall of Fame should have this so when it went up for auction again in 2000 he bought it and gave it to them.

g_vezina_c55 05-28-2012 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by REA (Post 998055)
The autographed Lajoie is in the Hall of Fame's collection. Barry Halper always thought the Hall of Fame should have this so when it went up for auction again in 2000 he bought it and gave it to them.

thx a lot for the info ! it is an amazing card !

glchen 07-25-2014 02:23 PM

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Looks like this signed Cy Young cabinet with the same image as his Just So card may be the new king of the mountain or at least a strong challenger for the ultimate signed pre-war card. Link

e107collector 07-25-2014 02:32 PM

Gary, thanks for the link to that story!!

Awesome looking piece, I'd love to own it!!

Tony

Exhibitman 07-26-2014 06:30 AM

Honestly, as compared with the Lajoie [and assuming I am owning to own rather than to profit] I'd rather own a signed 1933 Goudey Ruth. The Lajoie has hobby appeal but if it wasn't for the back story of the card itself it would be a minimally interesting signed tribute card. Ruth is the idol against whom every other baseball personality is measured, in and out of the hobby.

MattyC 07-26-2014 06:37 AM

Imagine what would a signed Ruth rookie would fetch.

benchod 07-26-2014 10:04 AM

Personally I would prefer the Young cab without the handwriting

2dueces 07-26-2014 10:22 AM

I know nothing about autographs. Giving Halpers past and all the forgeries that he had is there any doubt that the signature is good on that card? Not questioning it, just asking.

MW1 07-26-2014 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2dueces (Post 1302434)
I know nothing about autographs. Giving Halpers past and all the forgeries that he had is there any doubt that the signature is good on that card? Not questioning it, just asking.

It doesn't appear to have the "flow" and other characteristics matching authenticated Lajoie autographs from the same time period, but perhaps it was signed while Lajoie was riding in a car on cobblestone streets.

jad22 07-26-2014 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MW1 (Post 1302573)
It doesn't appear to have the "flow" and other characteristics matching authenticated Lajoie autographs from the same time period, but perhaps it was signed while Lajoie was riding in a car on cobblestone streets.

Agreed.


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