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EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 01-25-2017 04:38 PM

Jackie Robinson autograph
 
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Just want some quick second opinions if possible. I think this is good but am I missing something?

Terrier8HOF 01-25-2017 04:39 PM

photo is way to small to make any kind of determination

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 01-25-2017 04:41 PM

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This work?

bnorth 01-25-2017 04:54 PM

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Here is a better pic from the eBay auction.

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 01-25-2017 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 1624174)
Here is a better pic from the eBay auction.



Thanks I'm on my phone

GrayGhost 01-25-2017 06:41 PM

i like it at first glance

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 01-25-2017 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GrayGhost (Post 1624201)
i like it at first glance



So did I. I pulled the trigger. Never seen a signed Jackie stub before. Any other opinions? I don't even wanna get this authenticated if some of the big guys here approve of it.

theshleps 01-25-2017 08:58 PM

jackie
 
I like it too on quick perusal

RichardSimon 01-25-2017 09:15 PM

:D:D

khkco4bls 01-26-2017 05:20 AM

Good..

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 01-26-2017 06:02 AM

Thanks everyone. Your opinions helped a lot. I can now rest haha

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 01-27-2017 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RichardSimon (Post 1624256)
:D:D

I just got this in. I think it;s the real deal. The only thing that gives me any skepticism is the fact the pencil looks almost light blue.

Is this a common pencil attribute when on ticket stock over 60 years old?

I have uploaded close ups of each name. is this good guys?



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EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 01-27-2017 09:54 AM

Or maybe it's a marker?

Klrdds 01-27-2017 11:53 AM

Any chance it could be a fountain pen ?
I don't see the typical start and stop "dots" of a fountain pen. But that I would throw it out to you.
If it is pencil and has a blue tint to it then it possibly is a coloring pencil that we used to use to color pictures and draw with back in the day.

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 01-27-2017 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Klrdds (Post 1624802)
Any chance it could be a fountain pen ?
I don't see the typical start and stop "dots" of a fountain pen. But that I would throw it out to you.
If it is pencil and has a blue tint to it then it possibly is a coloring pencil that we used to use to color pictures and draw with back in the day.



This could very well be a color pencil. It's got the slightest blue tint ever though that I'm just wondering if the paper stock from this ticket turned it the color. Any thought on that?

Klrdds 01-27-2017 01:42 PM

I have never seen or heard of paper changing the color of a lead (graphite) pencil signature like it can do to an ink or marker signature in my over 40 years of collecting autographs. The paper may darken but I have seen it only make the signature lighter or darker in contrast.
Maybe some other collectors can chip in on this.
But you must consider that if this is a colored pencil signature then it will not be 100% lead (graphite ) it will have some sort of color modifier in it and that may be fading or changing color.

ibuysportsephemera 01-27-2017 06:15 PM

Stephen, Congrats on the purchase. I saw this on eBay and am sure you paid a good deal of money for this ticket. I am not beating a dead horse from the other thread, but if you had examined this in person, I am not sure that you would have pulled the trigger. I also am not sure that if you decide to return this that you can get your money back. Just my 2¢. I hope that you like it enough to keep it.

Jeff

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 01-27-2017 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ibuysportsephemera (Post 1624903)
Stephen, Congrats on the purchase. I saw this on eBay and am sure you paid a good deal of money for this ticket. I am not beating a dead horse from the other thread, but if you had examined this in person, I am not sure that you would have pulled the trigger. I also am not sure that if you decide to return this that you can get your money back. Just my 2¢. I hope that you like it enough to keep it.

Jeff

Are you implying you think it is fake?

ibuysportsephemera 01-28-2017 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE (Post 1624920)
Are you implying you think it is fake?

Nope....I am reacting to this post by you:

"I just got this in. I think it;s the real deal. The only thing that gives me any skepticism is the fact the pencil looks almost light blue.

Is this a common pencil attribute when on ticket stock over 60 years old?

I have uploaded close ups of each name. is this good guys?"


I am not sure of the authenticity myself based on the photos, but I really question the sellers eBay description- "This came from the estate of a relative (nearly thrown out!) who attended the game. This was just discovered in the last week and I'm hoping for a quick sale to cover some expenses. I can not accept returns, but shipping within the US is free. Please feel free to ask any questions. Thanks!". The description also adds "Stored since the game in climate controlled box (not out in light)."

My red flags are estate of a relative who attended the game, quick sale to cover expenses, stored in climate controlled box but almost thrown out, no returns, etc. My experience is that these are common huckster phrases or added extraneous information to help reel the buyer in.

Stephen, even after getting the ticket delivered to you, you are still not sure of the authenticity and are relying on people on Net54 to give you a thumbs up or down. If you were at a show or wherever, you would have had to make this decision on your own. As I stated in previous threads, I think that it would be a great learning experience for you to have to do this all in person. My rule about autographs that do not come with a reputable COA is will I be happy to own this in the future with little doubt that it is real? If I have any doubts, I don't buy it. Let's face it, there is no 100% certainty on any autograph that you do not get in person and there are plenty of stories about autographs with COA's being fakes. I would suggest reading the book Operation Bullpen.

Again, just my 2¢, I am trying to be helpful. Good luck.

Jeff

Econteachert205 01-28-2017 04:48 AM

I'm not overly concerned about the blue pencil. They were commonly used in the past by dress makers, tailors, industry and in construction for marking.

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 01-28-2017 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ibuysportsephemera (Post 1624990)
Nope....I am reacting to this post by you:

"I just got this in. I think it;s the real deal. The only thing that gives me any skepticism is the fact the pencil looks almost light blue.

Is this a common pencil attribute when on ticket stock over 60 years old?

I have uploaded close ups of each name. is this good guys?"


I am not sure of the authenticity myself based on the photos, but I really question the sellers eBay description- "This came from the estate of a relative (nearly thrown out!) who attended the game. This was just discovered in the last week and I'm hoping for a quick sale to cover some expenses. I can not accept returns, but shipping within the US is free. Please feel free to ask any questions. Thanks!". The description also adds "Stored since the game in climate controlled box (not out in light)."

My red flags are estate of a relative who attended the game, quick sale to cover expenses, stored in climate controlled box but almost thrown out, no returns, etc. My experience is that these are common huckster phrases or added extraneous information to help reel the buyer in.

Stephen, even after getting the ticket delivered to you, you are still not sure of the authenticity and are relying on people on Net54 to give you a thumbs up or down. If you were at a show or wherever, you would have had to make this decision on your own. As I stated in previous threads, I think that it would be a great learning experience for you to have to do this all in person. My rule about autographs that do not come with a reputable COA is will I be happy to own this in the future with little doubt that it is real? If I have any doubts, I don't buy it. Let's face it, there is no 100% certainty on any autograph that you do not get in person and there are plenty of stories about autographs with COA's being fakes. I would suggest reading the book Operation Bullpen.

Again, just my 2¢, I am trying to be helpful. Good luck.

Jeff



Ok thanks

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 01-28-2017 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Econteachert205 (Post 1624995)
I'm not overly concerned about the blue pencil. They were commonly used in the past by dress makers, tailors, industry and in construction for marking.


Ok thanks good to know. I love this piece. I grew up a yankee fan and learned to love Brooklyn as I found out about them 15-20 years ago. Best of both worlds to me on this stub.

bnorth 01-28-2017 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ibuysportsephemera (Post 1624990)
Nope....I am reacting to this post by you:

"I just got this in. I think it;s the real deal. The only thing that gives me any skepticism is the fact the pencil looks almost light blue.

Is this a common pencil attribute when on ticket stock over 60 years old?

I have uploaded close ups of each name. is this good guys?"


I am not sure of the authenticity myself based on the photos, but I really question the sellers eBay description- "This came from the estate of a relative (nearly thrown out!) who attended the game. This was just discovered in the last week and I'm hoping for a quick sale to cover some expenses. I can not accept returns, but shipping within the US is free. Please feel free to ask any questions. Thanks!". The description also adds "Stored since the game in climate controlled box (not out in light)."

My red flags are estate of a relative who attended the game, quick sale to cover expenses, stored in climate controlled box but almost thrown out, no returns, etc. My experience is that these are common huckster phrases or added extraneous information to help reel the buyer in.

Stephen, even after getting the ticket delivered to you, you are still not sure of the authenticity and are relying on people on Net54 to give you a thumbs up or down. If you were at a show or wherever, you would have had to make this decision on your own. As I stated in previous threads, I think that it would be a great learning experience for you to have to do this all in person. My rule about autographs that do not come with a reputable COA is will I be happy to own this in the future with little doubt that it is real? If I have any doubts, I don't buy it. Let's face it, there is no 100% certainty on any autograph that you do not get in person and there are plenty of stories about autographs with COA's being fakes. I would suggest reading the book Operation Bullpen.

Again, just my 2¢, I am trying to be helpful. Good luck.

Jeff

I agree with the red flags in the description but on eBay putting "no returns" means absolutely nothing. You can return anything and have a very long time to do it.

I will say it does suck when you actually get something from a dead relative, estate sale, or flee market because people think it is a scam.

No idea on the auto just commenting on the quoted post.


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