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frankbmd 09-17-2022 02:30 PM

So who was better (Pignatano or Dalrymple)....
 
.....for those who have decided about Kaline and Clemente.

Both have 9 letters in their name.

Both have zero MVPs

Pignatano hit .234
Dalrymple hit .233

Dalrymple career OPS+ was 85
Pignatano career OPS+ was 83

I never got Dalrymple's autograph,
but Pignatano signed for me

https://www.collectorfocus.com/image.../pignatano-joe

Peter_Spaeth 09-17-2022 02:42 PM

Both were overrated IMO. Brooklyn fans in particular tend to overrate their own and even more so when they are of Italian heritage. That said, had either man played longer, his stat totals would have been greater. And Chavez Ravine likely deprived Pignatano of at least 3 more HR.

ALR-bishop 09-17-2022 02:48 PM

Dalrymple has more card variations. But Pignatano’s 59 card is better looking than any of Dalrymple’s cards

frankbmd 09-17-2022 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2264779)
Both were overrated IMO. Brooklyn fans in particular tend to overrate their own and even more so when they are of Italian heritage. That said, had either man played longer, his stat totals would have been greater. And Chavez Ravine likely deprived Pignatano of at least 3 more HR.

Respectfully, you moron, Pignatano hit 8 home runs in the Coliseum.:rolleyes: All were "Moon" shots to left field. Pignatano was playing in Kansas City when Chavez Ravine opened in April 1962.:rolleyes: Are you up to date on your medication?:rolleyes: I hoping for a civil discussion based on fact, not bogus assumptions.

frankbmd 09-17-2022 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop (Post 2264783)
Dalrymple has more card variations. But Pignatano’s 59 card is better looking than any of Dalrymple’s cards

Moot point, Al
Their cards are visually worthless.

clydepepper 09-17-2022 03:16 PM

Look out! Frank's on the loose!!!




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Peter_Spaeth 09-17-2022 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankbmd (Post 2264789)
Respectfully, you moron, Pignatano hit 8 home runs in the Coliseum.:rolleyes: All were "Moon" shots to left field. Pignatano was playing in Kansas City when Chavez Ravine opened in April 1962.:rolleyes: Are you up to date on your medication?:rolleyes: I hoping for a civil discussion based on fact, not bogus assumptions.

Everything is up to date in Kansas City and with my meds thank you.

Peter_Spaeth 09-17-2022 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clydepepper (Post 2264793)
Look out! Frank's on the loose!!!




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Even as we speak he is preparing trivia to which the wrong answer is the right one.

D. Bergin 09-17-2022 04:21 PM

If I were to answer the question seriously, I’d say it was Dalrymple…..and it’s not even close.

….but I’m not going to do that. Instead I’m going to say that Joe Shlabotnik would take them both out to the woodshed, and wouldn’t bring them back until they both promised to add another letter to their last names, and convinced them that OPS stood for “One Poor Sap”.

frankbmd 09-17-2022 06:04 PM

So far I would have to give the nod to “Piggy”.

Better nickname and no contest (yet) in legibility comparison.

frankbmd 09-17-2022 06:11 PM

Another factor that many here value is the number of WS rings a player has.

Again it’s a shutout, Piggy 1 and Clay 0

D. Bergin 09-17-2022 06:23 PM

Clay gets my vote for attempting to change his last name to "Cassius" in 1965.

Peter_Spaeth 09-17-2022 06:49 PM

http://www.ultimatemets.com/gamedetail.php?gameno=118

frankbmd 09-17-2022 10:00 PM

Got it.

So Piggy was adversely affected by Chavez Ravine because he struck out two times in New York.

Great research Pete.:D

Peter_Spaeth 09-17-2022 10:04 PM

You may be missing the point son. They both played in this tilt.

frankbmd 09-18-2022 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2264894)
You may be missing the point son. They both played in this tilt.

Dalrymple struck out once in the game and Pignatano twice, so you are saying that Dalrymple is better.;) Father please accept my lack of insight as the human failing of a mere mortal.:eek:


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