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LJACards 01-22-2021 11:09 PM

any advice on collecting vintage newspaper panels and photos?
 
I recently came across the idea of collecting vintage baseball newspaper panels and photos. Is there any guide to collecting these? Is there any value? This is puzzling me as I cant find any information about collecting them, or info on anyone who has collected them. They are so similar to baseball cards or even wirephotos but at the same time not at all.

I find it fascinating that period time photos of players and hall of famers in newspapers can be had for such low money compared to cards. I mean for example I bought a period time 1935 newspaper photo of Lloyd and Paul Waner for less than $15


Thanks for any info or insight

-LJA

Chris Counts 01-23-2021 08:43 AM

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My first piece of advice is don't pay $15 for one clipping. There's a guy on eBay with literally a thousand, and you won't need to pay his prices. Next, I'd start searching for "scrapbooks" on eBay — that's where most of mine have come from. I also search "Sunday News," since that publication generally has the best images. Here are a few of my favorites. I doubt I paid more than a couple bucks for any of these, and some of them are huge. If you like these, I have tons of extras, also in black in white.

Hankphenom 01-23-2021 02:25 PM

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Not sure what you mean by newspaper panels, and by photos do you mean clipped out of the papers and kept in binders? Sounds like you might be talking about a modern version of scrapbooking, and if so I think the main problem would be finding enough old newspapers to put much together. But old scrapbooks do come up from time to time, and they are cool if you're into the teams or players. Old papers will darken in tone and get brittle with age, though, and are therefore not very collectible as far as I know. As mentioned, the old Sunday "gravure" sections in sepia or color are made of more substantial paper, are better bets to age and frame nicely. Here are several of mine on the wall:

perezfan 01-23-2021 02:43 PM

Those framed pieces look great and obviously have value. But the clippings with only text and no visual aesthetics don't seem to carry much (if any) value.

I would not approach this segment if you are looking for a potential investment that would increase in value (or even retain its value). But if it's just for your collection and satisfaction, you can accumulate some pretty significant, rare and historic pieces for very little money.

perezfan 01-23-2021 02:49 PM

Most importantly.... collect what you like! :)

Hankphenom 01-23-2021 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 2059334)
Those framed pieces look great and obviously have value. But the clippings with only text and no visual aesthetics don't seem to carry much (if any) value. I would not approach this segment if you are looking for a potential investment that would increase in value (or even retain its value). But if it's just for your collection and satisfaction, you can accumulate some pretty significant, rare and historic pieces for very little money.

Yes, whatever you do with old papers would only be for your collecting pleasure, and old scrapbooks full of articles and pictures do surface occasionally and don't go for much when they do. I doubt I could even get the framing costs out of my Sunday section pieces, but I love looking at them. And I could probably spend a lifetime trying to find them again, that's how rare they are. Throw in the minimal cost, and for me they've been a great collecting niche.

LJACards 01-23-2021 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Counts (Post 2059174)
My first piece of advise is don't pay $15 for one clipping. There's a guy on eBay with literally a thousand, and you won't need to pay his prices. Next, I'd start searching for "scrapbooks" on eBay — that's where most of mine have come from. I also search "Sunday News," since that publication generally has the best images. Here are a few of my favorites. I doubt I paid more than a couple bucks for any of these, and some of them are huge. If you like these, I have tons of extras, also in black in white.

about 100% sure You are talking about the exact person i saw on ebay.

Thank you for the advice.

4scuda 01-23-2021 06:07 PM

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I love old newspaper pieces and scrapbooks. I have several framed photogravure type pieces and several great scrapbooks. Check out the recent post on scrapbooks, I got lots of good ideas. Scrapbooks are certainly the best place to get oldest pieces. I had a stack of 1930s sporting news in terrible shape I have been making a scrapbook from.

BruceinGa 01-24-2021 06:52 AM

Awesome items!! I'll pm you later.
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Originally Posted by Chris Counts (Post 2059174)
My first piece of advice is don't pay $15 for one clipping. There's a guy on eBay with literally a thousand, and you won't need to pay his prices. Next, I'd start searching for "scrapbooks" on eBay — that's where most of mine have come from. I also search "Sunday News," since that publication generally has the best images. Here are a few of my favorites. I doubt I paid more than a couple bucks for any of these, and some of them are huge. If you like these, I have tons of extras, also in black in white.


doug.goodman 01-24-2021 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Counts (Post 2059174)
My first piece of advice is don't pay $15 for one clipping.

That's the best advice you will get, and you could get dozens of the items that guy sells for the price of one, if you just bought the old books / guides that he cuts up.

Or, I have 4000 TSNs I'll sell you dating back into the 1880s, hahahaha.

But seriously, I will.

LJACards 01-24-2021 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by doug.goodman (Post 2059621)
That's the best advice you will get, and you could get dozens of the items that guy sells for the price of one, if you just bought the old books / guides that he cuts up.

Or, I have 4000 TSNs I'll sell you dating back into the 1880s, hahahaha.

But seriously, I will.

for 15$? sold! lol

doug.goodman 01-25-2021 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by LJACards (Post 2059925)
for 15$? sold! lol

Each? Done. We have a deal. Insert smiley face here.

Doug "I also have a bunch of Sporting Lifes, and a run of Baseball Weekly, that I would love to move..." Goodman

LJACards 01-25-2021 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by doug.goodman (Post 2060249)
Each? Done. We have a deal. Insert smiley face here.

Doug "I also have a bunch of Sporting Lifes, and a run of Baseball Weekly, that I would love to move..." Goodman

thats really not a bad price, i may hit you up when i get some extra cash. Im completely unknown to them, as ive never had one but I love the history.

doug.goodman 01-26-2021 05:25 PM

Back to the OP's original question :

My best advice would be don't buy this :

https://www.ebay.com/itm/HANK-ARON-b...MAAOSwyOxgDxco

Or anything like it, no matter what the price is.

Hankphenom 01-27-2021 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by doug.goodman (Post 2060575)
Back to the OP's original question : My best advice would be don't buy this :
https://www.ebay.com/itm/HANK-ARON-b...MAAOSwyOxgDxco
Or anything like it, no matter what the price is.

But it's been slabbed a 10 by FGS!

ooo-ribay 01-27-2021 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Counts (Post 2059174)
I also search "Sunday News," since that publication generally has the best images. Here are a few of my favorites. I doubt I paid more than a couple bucks for any of these, and some of them are huge.

I concur on the NY Sunday News. Great images!

bigfanNY 01-27-2021 08:15 PM

I have a group of scrapbooks and pictures listed on BST in memorabilia section. I know you are not supposed to hawk items ...but I am only asking $10 plus shipping just trying to find a good home for these.
Jonathan

doug.goodman 01-27-2021 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bigfanNY (Post 2061072)
I know you are not supposed to hawk items ...

We'll let you slide...

This time.

Hahahaha

BruceinGa 01-29-2021 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bigfanNY (Post 2061072)
I have a group of scrapbooks and pictures listed on BST in memorabilia section. I know you are not supposed to hawk items ...but I am only asking $10 plus shipping just trying to find a good home for these.
Jonathan

I sent you a pm.

Exhibitman 01-30-2021 05:30 PM

I distinguish between cut out pictures from a publication, items that were designed to be cut out, and supplements/premium that were inserted with the paper. There is relatively little work done on the designed cut-outs and they represent a great way to collect vintage. I'd say on the cheap but that seems a bit odd nowadays. Here's an article I wrote on one such series:

https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...f-west-baylor/

BruceinGa 01-31-2021 09:53 AM

Candid vs posed
 
Imo I would rather have a posed pic meant to be cutout than a candid photo not meant to be cutout. I really can't say why.:)

BruceinGa 02-27-2021 06:00 PM

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I finally had some time to go through a box of newsprint photos that Jon Sterling sent me. (Sorry Jon, I couldn't find your net54 user id).
I was overwhelmed by what he sent. The shipping was more than he wanted for the pics!
Here are photo of approximately 30% of the ones he sent:Attachment 443054

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Jon, I really appreciate your generosity!!


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