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Phil68 05-03-2020 06:36 PM

Holy Grails from each decade 1930-1980
 
One card per decade and one overall Holy Grail allowed.
Yes, you must choose between your "babies"...wow, is that dark...anyhoo...
1930's: '33 Goudey Dazzy Vance
1940's: '48 Leaf Ted Williams
1950's: '52 Topps Willie Mays
1960's: '67 Topps Carl Yastrzemski
1970's: '78 Topps Reggie Jackson
1980's; '85 Donruss Don Mattingly
All-Time Holy Grail: '52 Topps Mays

Post pics if you've got 'em!!

cardsagain74 05-03-2020 07:06 PM

So far, my new vintage collection has been topped with a lot of $100 - $1500 cards, but no whoppers that would stand out for a list like this.

'30s: don't got nun

'40s: '48 Bowman Berra

'50s: '55 Topps Clemente

'60s: '63 Topps Mantle

'70s: '75 Topps Brett

'80s: '84 Fleer Update Clemens

Overall: '55 Topps Clemente (it's grade 4-5)

Honorable mention: '52 Topps Mays BVG 3.5

https://i.imgur.com/w0k0kAo.jpg

ajquigs 05-03-2020 07:23 PM

33 Goudey Ruth #181
48 Leaf Jackie
54 Aaron
65 Stengel
73 Mays
84 Gooden

All-time - Ruth

Phil68 05-03-2020 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cardsagain74 (Post 1977341)
So far, my new vintage collection has been topped with a lot of $100 - $1500 cards, but no whoppers that would stand out for a list like this.

'30s: don't got nun

'40s: '48 Bowman Berra

'50s: '55 Topps Clemente

'60s: '63 Topps Mantle

'70s: '75 Topps Brett

'80s: '84 Fleer Update Clemens

Overall: '55 Topps Clemente (it's grade 4-5)

Honorable mention: '52 Topps Mays BVG 3.5

https://i.imgur.com/w0k0kAo.jpg

John,
No need to own 'em...that's what makes 'em the "Grails"! Lol

Phil68 05-03-2020 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajquigs (Post 1977342)
33 Goudey Ruth #181
48 Leaf Jackie
54 Aaron
65 Stengel
73 Mays
84 Gooden

All-time - Ruth

'65 Stengel! Interesting selection! Are you a New York guy?

hcv123 05-03-2020 08:50 PM

Hmmm
 
1930's - 1933 Goudey Ruth #144
1940's - 1941 PLayball Williams
1950's - 1952 Mantle
1960's - 1967 Venezuelan Clemente
1970's - 1971 Nolan Ryan
1980's - 84 Donruss Mattingly

rats60 05-03-2020 09:26 PM

1933 Goudey Babe Ruth
1949 Leaf Jackie Robinson
1952 Topps Mickey Mantle
1967 Topps Standup Roberto Clemente
1975 Topps George Brett
1986 Fleer Michael Jordan
All Time 1967 Topps Standup Roberto Clemente

Exhibitman 05-03-2020 10:06 PM

1933 Goudey Babe Ruth
1948 Leaf Rocky Graziano
1952 Topps Mantle
1961 Bell Brand Lakers Jerry West
1972 Comspec Wilt Chamberlain
1984-85 Star Company Michael Jordan

But why stop there?

1996 Select Certified Mirror Gold Jeter
2003-04 Upper Deck Exquisite LeBron James
2010 Sport Kings Paper Cuts Bruce Lee

http://blogbeckett.files.wordpress.c...ercuts_lee.jpg

Phil68 05-03-2020 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 1977382)
1933 Goudey Babe Ruth
1948 Leaf Rocky Graziano
1952 Topps Mantle
1961 Bell Brand Lakers Jerry West
1972 Comspec Wilt Chamberlain
1984-85 Star Company Michael Jordan

But why stop there?

1996 Select Certified Mirror Gold Jeter
2003-04 Upper Deck Exquisite LeBron James
2010 Sport Kings Paper Cuts Bruce Lee

http://blogbeckett.files.wordpress.c...ercuts_lee.jpg

That's a phenomenal list! That Graziano card is tough, isn't it? What's the story behind that?

Phil68 05-03-2020 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hcv123 (Post 1977370)
1930's - 1933 Goudey Ruth #144
1940's - 1941 PLayball Williams
1950's - 1952 Mantle
1960's - 1967 Venezuelan Clemente
1970's - 1971 Nolan Ryan
1980's - 84 Donruss Mattingly

Venezuelan Clemente...I have never owned any Venezuelan issues. Is the Clemente more scarce than normal? Where do you find those?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomi (Post 1976360)
Insane prices on those cards. Over $7K is just unreal. I own this one that I picked up. What do you think this one would go for right now?
https://i.postimg.cc/CMQZkDmS/20191117-165328.jpg


Phil68 05-03-2020 10:15 PM

How on earth did a Banty Red Mantle magically appear in my post??? What the heck???
I mean...It's nice and all but...

Phil68 05-03-2020 10:16 PM

anyway...
Venezuelans. Do people actually assemble sets of those?

Exhibitman 05-04-2020 07:02 AM

The Graziano was pulled before issue due to legal problems (Rocky was known for suing over unlicensed uses of his image) but some got out. Fewer than a dozen are known.

rats60 05-04-2020 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil68 (Post 1977385)
Venezuelan Clemente...I have never owned any Venezuelan issues. Is the Clemente more scarce than normal? Where do you find those?

There is one on eBay right now. It is his toughest Venezuela. I though Howard might have a Bazooka box as his grail. I think the 1960 is the ultimate if it exists.

hcv123 05-04-2020 10:17 AM

Oops
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rats60 (Post 1977433)
There is one on eBay right now. It is his toughest Venezuela. I though Howard might have a Bazooka box as his grail. I think the 1960 is the ultimate if it exists.


Far and away his toughest Venezuelan! 9 graded copies - 2-5's, 1-3, 1-2 (that's new), the rest 1 or A.

With Floyds reminder - I will have to change my 60's to that 60 Bazooka box!! Literally been after one for about 30 years and so far have been unable to confirm its existence let alone acquire one!

rats60 05-05-2020 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hcv123 (Post 1977473)
Far and away his toughest Venezuelan! 9 graded copies - 2-5's, 1-3, 1-2 (that's new), the rest 1 or A.

With Floyds reminder - I will have to change my 60's to that 60 Bazooka box!! Literally been after one for about 30 years and so far have been unable to confirm its existence let alone acquire one!

The 1967 Topps Standup only has 3 graded copies a 5.5 and 2 authentic. I have never seen one go up for sale in the 35 years since I bought mine. I believe it is the rarest Clemente card. My card came from the personal collection of Woody Gelman, the art director of Topps who designed and marketed all the great Topps test issues of the 60s and 70s. He was also the first mail order dealer starting The Card Collectors Co. in the 50s.

hcv123 05-05-2020 10:47 AM

That's quite a call
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rats60 (Post 1977726)
The 1967 Topps Standup only has 3 graded copies a 5.5 and 2 authentic. I have never seen one go up for sale in the 35 years since I bought mine. I believe it is the rarest Clemente card. My card came from the personal collection of Woody Gelman, the art director of Topps who designed and marketed all the great Topps test issues of the 60s and 70s. He was also the first mail order dealer starting The Card Collectors Co. in the 50s.

I know of at least 2 other Clemente items that I own the only ones I've seen:

1) 1967 Topps Pinup sticker
2) 1956 Team issue photo

I am sure there are other items with only a copy or 2 known - that doesn't mean that's all there are.

I agree the Stand Up is exceptionally rare, but I have one and know at least 1 other board member that does - neither of which are graded by PSA. I remember only a single copy being offered in the last 30 years - it was as part of a set and is the one owned by the board member I referenced.

jgannon 05-05-2020 11:09 AM

I don't have any holy grails, really. But ONE DAY I'll get back my 1959 and 1968 Mickey Mantles!! I just have to have the discipline not to spend for awhile and focus on getting those cards!

jchcollins 05-05-2020 11:17 AM

Holy Grails from each decade 1930-1980
 
Nothing super hair-raising, but these are personal grails for me at the moment -

1930’s - nothing.
1940’s - ‘48 Leaf Ted Williams
1950’s - ‘56 Topps Mickey Mantle
1960’s - ‘68 Topps Ryan / Koosman
1970’s - ‘75 Topps George Brett
1980’s - ‘83 Topps Ryne Sandberg. (Stubborn defiance vote against the ‘89 UD Griffey Jr...)


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cardsagain74 05-05-2020 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jchcollins (Post 1977810)
Nothing super hair-raising, but these are personal grails for me at the moment -

1930’s - nothing.
1940’s - ‘48 Leaf Ted Williams
1950’s - ‘56 Topps Mickey Mantle
1960’s - ‘68 Topps Ryan / Koosman
1970’s - ‘75 Topps George Brett
1980’s - ‘83 Topps Ryne Sandberg. (Stubborn defiance vote against the ‘89 UD Griffey Jr...)


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Yep. When I think the top of the '80s, it's still the Henderson and the Fleer Update Clemens.

Am still surprised by the last month's Griffey explosion.

sflayank 05-05-2020 02:14 PM

67 stand up
 
67 standups graded by psa are the proof only thin variety
Not supposed to be any number graded should all be authentic only...someone at psa screwed up

rats60 05-05-2020 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hcv123 (Post 1977801)
I know of at least 2 other Clemente items that I own the only ones I've seen:

1) 1967 Topps Pinup sticker
2) 1956 Team issue photo

I am sure there are other items with only a copy or 2 known - that doesn't mean that's all there are.

I agree the Stand Up is exceptionally rare, but I have one and know at least 1 other board member that does - neither of which are graded by PSA. I remember only a single copy being offered in the last 30 years - it was as part of a set and is the one owned by the board member I referenced.

When the 1967 Topps Standup was on the PSA registry, it carried a weight of 10. The next highest rating was 7.

rats60 05-05-2020 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sflayank (Post 1977881)
67 standups graded by psa are the proof only thin variety
Not supposed to be any number graded should all be authentic only...someone at psa screwed up

Mine is thick like the 1970 & 1971 Topps Supers, not the proof version.

Marckus99 05-06-2020 12:26 PM

Real cards.

‘33 GCM - Andrews or ‘36/7 Wheaties single serv 1 oz.
‘47 Morley - Tacoma Or ‘49 Schumacher
‘51 Hages - Cleveland or ‘55 Homestead - Des Moines
‘60 Armour - Denver or ‘63 Milwaukee Sausage

rgpete 05-06-2020 05:52 PM

2 Attachment(s)
1980 topps prototype coins on the original Presentation Board

rgpete 05-06-2020 06:14 PM

1 Attachment(s)
1945-46 Carmelo Deportivo Ray Dandridge

mrmopar 05-06-2020 09:22 PM

I'd have to do some deep thinking to come up with a true list (keeping this one exempt of oddball sets), but off the top of my head:

1933 Delong Gehrig
1948 Leaf Paige
1952 Topps J Robinson
1963 Topps Rose
70s - Have all I really want
80s - Have all I really want

I went with cards I don't have but would love to add.

campyfan39 05-07-2020 02:03 PM

From my collection:
53 Campy is my fave card of all time
62 Mantle that was my late fathers from his favorite set
75 Brett just iconic
86 Canseco (so important to us as kids my friend died at 16 and was buried with one)


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