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4815162342 12-04-2013 05:44 PM

Does that card really exist?
 
We recently had a thread about one-of-a-kind cards; what about catalogued cards that you've never seen?

There's always hope, as there have been a few unexpected unique finds over the past few years. The Tango Eggs Cobb, Just So Ewing, and of course that breathtaking N167 complete set come to mind.

So, does [that card] really exist?

x2drich2000 12-04-2013 06:00 PM

Currently, at the top of my list would be an e92 Nadja Cobb. From past threads one was rumored to exist but no one could provide a scan. I would also like confirmation on the Zimmerman, Doyle (with bat), Donovan, and Bescher.

DJ

Brian Van Horn 12-04-2013 06:05 PM

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I'm just glad this one exists considering I'm from Pittsburgh:

atx840 12-04-2013 06:08 PM

Maybe not what you're looking for but Tinker with a P42 is possible but never seen. Chase blue portrait Drum is confirmed but no record of it.

I'd like to think a Joe Jackson T206 proof was made.

e107collector 12-04-2013 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atx840 (Post 1213587)

I'd like to think a Joe Jackson T206 proof was made.

That would be insane, if it ever did turn up.

Too bad the E107's of Wagner & Matty didn't have their baseball uniform variation. They would be pretty cool.

Tony

scooter729 12-04-2013 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e107collector (Post 1213637)
That would be insane, if it ever did turn up.

Tony


It did on April Fools Day here a few years ago! Admit it, who was fooled by it??

Joe_G. 12-04-2013 08:52 PM

I'll add the rumored blue mount N173 to the list.

kmac32 12-05-2013 12:53 AM

Curtis Ireland card of Elmer Miller

bcbgcbrcb 12-05-2013 04:59 AM

W600 Branch Rickey.......

cdn_collector 12-05-2013 05:06 AM

J=K George Gibson

Rich Klein 12-05-2013 06:01 AM

1959 Topps Bill White without the transaction line

Peter W Thomas 12-05-2013 06:51 AM

E92 Nadja's
 
Quite sure that Bescher, Donovan& Doyle with bat do not exist. I was told about 10 years ago that Lipset said that he had seen a Nadja Cobb. Still in 10 years of looking have not seen any of these 4 subjects. I think that Tim Newcomb has an Otto Knabe. I have also never seen a Zimmerman.

e107collector 12-05-2013 08:26 PM

How about a T-215 Pirate Tobacco Ty Cobb.

ullmandds 12-05-2013 08:32 PM

good one Tony...that'd be a beast of a card!!!!

TheBig6 12-05-2013 11:21 PM

Alpha Engraving Keeler
Tango Eggs Cobb

atx840 12-06-2013 12:30 AM

Edit: not my card

https://www.gfg.com/tangocobb.jpg

TheBig6 12-06-2013 12:56 AM

I had heard it existed but had never seen it.
Now I have
Thanks for Posting

e107collector 12-06-2013 06:11 AM

Cobb
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1214052)
good one Tony...that'd be a beast of a card!!!!

Any opinions? - If a T-215 Pirate Tobacco Ty Cobb ever came up for auction, I would assume it would be a $100K+ card. Am I correct?

Tony

ullmandds 12-06-2013 06:32 AM

hard to say Tony...100K is a strong sentiment!!!!!! Certainly could be in the right time and place!

Robextend 12-06-2013 08:52 AM

On a much lesser scale than most of the cards mentioned in this thread, has anyone seen these E91A cards?

Art Devlin
Rube Oldring
James Slagle
Fred Tenney

I am sure they are out there, but I haven't seen them and I have been collecting the set for about 5 years.

Rob

4815162342 12-06-2013 10:27 AM

Can anyone confirm the existence of these E105s?

Bill O'Hara
Fred Jacklitsch
Mickey Doolan

brianp-beme 12-06-2013 10:59 AM

E91a
 
Rob,

All four E91A cards should be out there...and I also have the complete set, so I have them as well.

Brian


Quote:

Originally Posted by Robextend (Post 1214184)
On a much lesser scale than most of the cards mentioned in this thread, has anyone seen these E91A cards?

Art Devlin
Rube Oldring
James Slagle
Fred Tenney

I am sure they are out there, but I haven't seen them and I have been collecting the set for about 5 years.

Rob


Robextend 12-06-2013 11:29 AM

Thanks Brian!

I figured they were out there, but can't be much of an abundance. I have been all over Ebay and auction houses for years and can't remember coming across any.

Exhibitman 12-06-2013 11:31 AM

There should be 8 more of these strip cards:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...%20Hornsby.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...Unc%20Cobb.jpg

oaks1912 12-06-2013 11:34 AM

E-105 Doolan
 
Mello Mint Doolan exists. Other two are among a handful I'm lacking for the set

4815162342 02-12-2016 03:42 PM

Unicorn found!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 4815162342 (Post 1214236)
Can anyone confirm the existence of these E105s?

Bill O'Hara
Fred Jacklitsch
Mickey Doolan

Quote:

Originally Posted by oaks1912 (Post 1214266)
Mello Mint Doolan exists. Other two are among a handful I'm lacking for the set

I'd been able to locate proof of the existence of every card in the E105 set except for one: Fred Jacklitsch. There were no records of it ever being sold at auction, and there were no records in the PSA or SGC population reports. I asked about it in this thread a few years ago (and subsequently found proof of O'Hara), and began to think that it might not exist.

Last November, an awesome fellow board member told me that he had talked with a dealer at a show. The dealer mentioned that he received an email from a guy who asked for advice on how to go about selling 5 different raw E105s, including Jacklitsch. I was able to email the dealer and ask about these cards, and he said that the seller was going to have them graded and submit them to an auction house. I kept an eye out for that grouping; they were just auctioned last week. I was able to pick up two that I needed, including the unicorn. I'm finally at the midway point: 25 of 50. I may never complete this set, but at least now I know that it is indeed possible.

http://caimages.collectors.com/psaim...ch%20front.jpghttp://caimages.collectors.com/psaim...sch%20back.jpg

x2drich2000 02-12-2016 04:24 PM

Daryl, awesome pickup, and that is one nice looking "poor".

DJ

midmo 02-12-2016 04:25 PM

1910 Darby Chocolates Bill Dahlen. If it ever becomes available I probably couldn't afford it, but I'd love to just see a picture of one.

Leon 02-12-2016 04:31 PM

Congrats my man!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4815162342 (Post 1503382)
I'd been able to locate proof of the existence of every card in the E105 set except for one: Fred Jacklitsch. There were no records of it ever being sold at auction, and there were no records in the PSA or SGC population reports. I asked about it in this thread a few years ago (and subsequently found proof of O'Hara), and began to think that it might not exist.

Last November, an awesome fellow board member told me that he had talked with a dealer at a show. The dealer mentioned that he received an email from a guy who asked for advice on how to go about selling 5 different raw E105s, including Jacklitsch. I was able to email the dealer and ask about these cards, and he said that the seller was going to have them graded and submit them to an auction house. I kept an eye out for that grouping; they were just auctioned last week. I was able to pick up two that I needed, including the unicorn. I'm finally at the midway point: 25 of 50. I may never complete this set, but at least now I know that it is indeed possible.

http://caimages.collectors.com/psaim...ch%20front.jpghttp://caimages.collectors.com/psaim...sch%20back.jpg


4815162342 02-12-2016 04:51 PM

Does that card really exist?
 
Thanks guys!

toppcat 02-12-2016 05:02 PM

That Jacklitsch might be the nicest 1 I have ever seen.

Jobu 02-12-2016 05:32 PM

Congrats! Tracking that down is awesome.

dwinters 02-12-2016 06:01 PM

Worch Andrews
 
After 8 years, still looking for worch ivy paul Andrews. Never seen a picture of one.

edjs 02-12-2016 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4815162342 (Post 1503382)
I'd been able to locate proof of the existence of every card in the E105 set except for one: Fred Jacklitsch. There were no records of it ever being sold at auction, and there were no records in the PSA or SGC population reports. I asked about it in this thread a few years ago (and subsequently found proof of O'Hara), and began to think that it might not exist.

Last November, an awesome fellow board member told me that he had talked with a dealer at a show. The dealer mentioned that he received an email from a guy who asked for advice on how to go about selling 5 different raw E105s, including Jacklitsch. I was able to email the dealer and ask about these cards, and he said that the seller was going to have them graded and submit them to an auction house. I kept an eye out for that grouping; they were just auctioned last week. I was able to pick up two that I needed, including the unicorn. I'm finally at the midway point: 25 of 50. I may never complete this set, but at least now I know that it is indeed possible.


Daryl,

I was hoping you got that when that group sold. I got skunked on all those. I'm very happy for you! Interesting that the listing said it is "one of two."

Ed

abroome 02-12-2016 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4815162342 (Post 1503382)
I'd been able to locate proof of the existence of every card in the E105 set except for one: Fred Jacklitsch. There were no records of it ever being sold at auction, and there were no records in the PSA or SGC population reports. I asked about it in this thread a few years ago (and subsequently found proof of O'Hara), and began to think that it might not exist.

Last November, an awesome fellow board member told me that he had talked with a dealer at a show. The dealer mentioned that he received an email from a guy who asked for advice on how to go about selling 5 different raw E105s, including Jacklitsch. I was able to email the dealer and ask about these cards, and he said that the seller was going to have them graded and submit them to an auction house. I kept an eye out for that grouping; they were just auctioned last week. I was able to pick up two that I needed, including the unicorn. I'm finally at the midway point: 25 of 50. I may never complete this set, but at least now I know that it is indeed possible.

http://caimages.collectors.com/psaim...ch%20front.jpghttp://caimages.collectors.com/psaim...sch%20back.jpg

Fantastic card. Has anyone ever heard of a blank back E105 existing?

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rainier2004 02-12-2016 07:11 PM

That's fantastic Daryl, I remember when you started the set...very awesome stuff.

ullmandds 02-12-2016 07:42 PM

nice job daryl!! I've never heard of a blank backed e105.

Jobu 02-12-2016 08:07 PM

I know this was a 2013 post, but the Tinker PD 42 has since been confirmed (which Chris knows). Progress!

Quote:

Originally Posted by atx840 (Post 1213587)
Maybe not what you're looking for but Tinker with a P42 is possible but never seen. Chase blue portrait Drum is confirmed but no record of it.

I'd like to think a Joe Jackson T206 proof was made.


4815162342 02-12-2016 08:11 PM

Thanks again guys. No blank backs that I know of, but there is a signed Larry Doyle (throwing) on the PSA pop report. I would love to see that card.

pokerplyr80 02-12-2016 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atx840 (Post 1213587)
Maybe not what you're looking for but Tinker with a P42 is possible but never seen. Chase blue portrait Drum is confirmed but no record of it.

I'd like to think a Joe Jackson T206 proof was made.

If we're hoping for cards, what about a 14 or 15 CJ Ruth. If one were discovered I think it shatters the record for most expensive card of all time in the right grade, or perhaps any grade.

whiteymet 02-13-2016 12:58 AM

Since Rich opened this up to post war cards, I'd like to add a Richie Ashburn card from the Felin Franks set.

I have a newspaper ad proof showing the card, but have never seen one. I have all the other known Ashburn cards including some really rare cards, like Lummis, Dad's Cookies etc. but this one has eluded me for 40 years.

You can see the ad proof here:

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...in#post1357095

Fred

Danny Smith 02-13-2016 06:09 AM

There is at least one blank back Mello mint that exists. Paper thin and has the signature crease.

Congrats again on the pick-up!!!

4815162342 02-13-2016 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Smith (Post 1503554)
There is at least one blank back Mello mint that exists. Paper thin and has the signature crease.

Congrats again on the pick-up!!!


Wow, I didn't know that Danny! Thanks!

Leon 02-13-2016 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4815162342 (Post 1503488)
Thanks again guys. No blank backs that I know of, but there is a signed Larry Doyle (throwing) on the PSA pop report. I would love to see that card.

I know of one but am sworn to secrecy until the person who has it makes it known. He is a board member and good friend whom I speak with fairly often....

edited to add, I didn't see Danny's post when I posted....

familytoad 02-13-2016 08:36 AM

poison caramel
 
Show me a York Caramel Paul Waner so that I know I'm *not* chasing a unicorn?

Yoda 02-13-2016 09:41 AM

No Cobb Nadja, but I do possess a E92 same of Honus - batting PSA 3 vg, which if I have read the population reports from SGC & PSA correctly, is the only graded copy recorded. Whether it is the only one around is highly dubious, but it does seem rare for sure. It just might, repeat, might, be coming up for auction at a later date this year.
P.S. Sorry, but I remain computer challenged so no scan possible at the moment.

SMPEP 02-13-2016 11:13 AM

I want to see a 1923 W572 Rapp or Barbare. Barbare was only added to the checklist recently, but no one can confirm why it was added. (There are two other W572s I have never seen a photo of - but at least each of those has a graded copy, so if we assume the grading companies didn't goof, at least we know those exist).

Cheers,
Patrick

x2drich2000 02-13-2016 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 1503638)
No Cobb Nadja, but I do possess a E92 same of Honus - batting PSA 3 vg, which if I have read the population reports from SGC & PSA correctly, is the only graded copy recorded. Whether it is the only one around is highly dubious, but it does seem rare for sure. It just might, repeat, might, be coming up for auction at a later date this year.
P.S. Sorry, but I remain computer challenged so no scan possible at the moment.

John, there is at least 1 other e92 nadja batting (SGC 50) that I believe is owned by a board member. Unfortunately, the SGC pop reports do not break out the different variations consistently.

DJ

glchen 02-13-2016 11:49 AM

I'd like to see the 1922 E121 Babe Ruth Photo Montage and E121 Babe Ruth Holding Bird cards where the "Babe" is NOT in quotes. There are examples of these in both the PSA and SGC population reports although I don't think I've ever seen a copy, so not sure if these are errors by the TPG's or they actually exist.

deadballpaul 02-14-2016 06:47 AM

Elmer Flick Novelty Cutlery
 
I've had a near set of Novelty Cutlery postcards (23 of 26) before. I consider it a 25 card set because Elmer Flick does not exist. I can tell you, if that postcard really existed, I would have found it by now.


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