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bnorth 03-23-2024 01:25 PM

1989 Fleer Wade Boggs No Dot error
 
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I hoarded these cards since they came out. Up until the pandemic I bought every one I could find but one that was just too expensive. In all that time I hoarded around 15 total.

In the last few years these things have been coming out of the woodwork. I know of way over a 100 of them now with 2 other guys having around 30 each.

It was very depressing to me when all these cards I had hoarded for close to 30 years went from being fairly rare to having tons of them known. Because so many have shown up I believe I am done buying them and just picked up my last one. I have been watching this autographed one with a JSA sticker on the back for some time. I recently sold a card to a fellow member and used part of that money to by this card.

ALR-bishop 03-23-2024 04:39 PM

Didn’t I get the one I have from you ? But is a back variation, right ?

bnorth 03-23-2024 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ALR-bishop (Post 2421712)
Didn’t I get the one I haw from you ? But is a back variation, right ?

Yes I sent you one a few years ago. On the back after Throws Right most have a black dot like this one. The now almost kinda rare ones don't have the dot.

vthobby 03-23-2024 06:02 PM

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The rare no dot ones are on COMC for $20 each. Pretty cool!

bnorth 03-23-2024 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by vthobby (Post 2421736)
The rare no dot ones are on COMC for $20 each. Pretty cool!

That is way too much. I was lucky and had about half of mine given to me.

LOL, seriously one of those cards on COMC was $6.99 before I made this thread. I know I looked and it isn't a newly listed card. Someone just jacked up the price. If someone needs one PM me.

Mike D. 03-24-2024 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 2421740)
That is way too much. I was lucky and had about half of mine given to me.

LOL, seriously one of those cards on COMC was $6.99 before I made this thread. I know I looked and it isn't a newly listed card. Someone just jacked up the price. If someone needs one PM me.

Look at you, you're an influencer! :cool:

All you need now is hobby experience that harkens all the way back to 2020, a YouTube channel, and a desire to call everyone "bruh". :D

bnorth 03-24-2024 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike D. (Post 2421844)
Look at you, you're an influencer! :cool:

All you need now is hobby experience that harkens all the way back to 2020, a YouTube channel, and a desire to call everyone "bruh". :D

I have been an influencer on this card for decades. It is a card pretty much no body else ever cared about. Had many people try to sell them to me for insane money over the last few years.:rolleyes::D

bnorth 04-07-2024 06:53 PM

Looks like the one on COMC is down to $3.82 if anyone is looking for one. If it drops much more I might buy it. Yes I am an addict.:D

bnorth 05-08-2024 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 2425153)
Looks like the one on COMC is down to $3.82 if anyone is looking for one. If it drops much more I might buy it. Yes I am an addict.:D

LOL, I just picked up another one for $1.71 because it was there.:confused::D

jacksoncoupage 05-09-2024 10:50 AM

I just sorted through 8 1989 Fleer factory sets and 1/8 had the no-mark variation. Also worth noting that the same set had a Phil Bradley without the little pink curl on front (by Fleer, like Randy's card), while the other 7 had the curl/mark.

I'd previously been under the impression that these were only found in wax.

Edit: For anyone curious:

-No treadway target
-No checklist w/ positions
-No notable anything else

bnorth 05-09-2024 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jacksoncoupage (Post 2432850)
I just sorted through 8 1989 Fleer factory sets and 1/8 had the no-mark variation. Also worth noting that the same set had a Phil Bradley without the little pink curl on front (by Fleer, like Randy's card), while the other 7 had the curl/mark.

I'd previously been under the impression that these were only found in wax.

Edit: For anyone curious:

-No treadway target
-No checklist w/ positions
-No notable anything else

Nice, thanks for the info. I have a couple factory sets I picked up a while back. I will have to look at them. I have also had a guy selling a few of the semi rare white scribble Bill Ripken cards say he found them in factory sets.

The one good thing about Covid was it brought out a few new to the hobby junk wax variations. It also made a few example that used to be silly rare fairly common.

jacksoncoupage 05-09-2024 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 2432854)
Nice, thanks for the info. I have a couple factory sets I picked up a while back. I will have to look at them. I have also had a guy selling a few of the semi rare white scribble Bill Ripken cards say he found them in factory sets.

The one good thing about Covid was it brought out a few new to the hobby junk wax variations. It also made a few example that used to be silly rare fairly common.

This is very hard to believe but I guess with 1989 Fleer, you never really know. Back is 2005-2006, I opened dozens of factory sets before I understood the ins and outs of production over a hobby season. There was absolutely nothing interesting whatsoever in any of those so I quit bothering with them. Then a few years ago a guy told me about Treadways being in some factory sets and until I recently found 10 (took 8) at $5/ea in a Goodwill, I hadn't bothered with them and only mildly regret the $40 sunk.

bnorth 05-09-2024 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jacksoncoupage (Post 2432869)
This is very hard to believe but I guess with 1989 Fleer, you never really know. Back is 2005-2006, I opened dozens of factory sets before I understood the ins and outs of production over a hobby season. There was absolutely nothing interesting whatsoever in any of those so I quit bothering with them. Then a few years ago a guy told me about Treadways being in some factory sets and until I recently found 10 (took 8) at $5/ea in a Goodwill, I hadn't bothered with them and only mildly regret the $40 sunk.

I was very leery of his story also. He told Jon that runs the Ripken site the same story. At the same time he was also selling several very obviously fake white out Ripken versions. The guys name is Edward and lives in Los Angeles.

Aug06 05-09-2024 01:14 PM

After reading all about this card I went and someone just happen to post one without the black variation for $1.99 buy it now on ebay. Bought it just to add to my collection. I checked and i found about 6 in my collection but all had the little black mark.

jacksoncoupage 05-09-2024 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 2432875)
I was very leery of his story also. He told Jon that runs the Ripken site the same story. At the same time he was also selling several very obviously fake white out Ripken versions. The guys name is Edward and lives in Los Angeles.

Up until what he said to you, I was under the impression that it was basically codified, ironclad fact that no interesting Ripkens made it into factory sets. Same with Randy.

If he was pushing fake whiteout cards, maybe he didn't realize that the Ripken collectors had all but solidified it as fact that they never made it into sets.

Athos01 05-09-2024 06:17 PM

Hey guys,
I believe that Ripken white scribbles can be found in factory sets. Old magazines with interviews with Fleer management indicated that factory sets contained an erased version, aka white scribbles. I have also found a few FF's in factory sets. It is possible. I read that Fleer had workers replace FF's in early printed factory sets with corrected versions, but obviously some slipped past.

bnorth 05-09-2024 07:04 PM

I found one never searched set and went through it. All corrected with Boggs having the dot. The Guillermo Hernandez was the full moose head print error. The Bill Ripken was the BB jagged line version.

jp1216 05-10-2024 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Athos01 (Post 2432947)
Hey guys,
I believe that Ripken white scribbles can be found in factory sets. Old magazines with interviews with Fleer management indicated that factory sets contained an erased version, aka white scribbles. I have also found a few FF's in factory sets. It is possible. I read that Fleer had workers replace FF's in early printed factory sets with corrected versions, but obviously some slipped past.

There is a Chicago Tribune article from 1989-90 mentioning other versions being pulled from factory sets.


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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 2432854)
Nice, thanks for the info. I have a couple factory sets I picked up a while back. I will have to look at them. I have also had a guy selling a few of the semi rare white scribble Bill Ripken cards say he found them in factory sets.

That seller opened a small 4 set factory case. All four had the White Scribble. I convinced him to get them graded by PSA. Three came back with 9s and the other was a 10. He sold the 10 for over $1000 - at the time a record price. He sent me one of the 9s - for free.

Zach Wheat 05-10-2024 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 2421657)
I hoarded these cards since they came out. Up until the pandemic I bought every one I could find but one that was just too expensive. In all that time I hoarded around 15 total........I had hoarded for close to 30 years

JollyElm probably has a word for this. :)


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