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Scott Garner 07-19-2011 03:16 AM

No-Hitters than at least 1 run was allowed
 
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Originally Posted by mr2686 (Post 910102)
Of course everyone knew where Joe Benz was...they were all dying to get in to his place of work! (rim shot)...thank you, I'll be here all week...try the fish!
Scott, no I didn't know that he threw a no hitter. I just looked it up and saw that it was actually the first White Sox no hitter that allowed a run (not sure how many in mlb where that has happend). Also realized that the 1919 team had 3 pitchers to either have thrown or that would throw a no hitter (Benz, Cicotte and Robertson and all three were caught by Ray Schalk)...pretty cool! Also, I did not actually see the scrapbook, just know that it was pasted into one, but your date range guess sounds about right based on strength of signature.

Hi Mike,

I believe that there have been 21 nine inning no-hitters pitched since 1893 (when the pitching mound moved to the 60' 6" modern standard) where at least one run was allowed.

Additionally, there have been 3 eight inning unofficial no-hitters thrown that allowed have allowed at least one run.

I hope that helps!

Shoeless Moe 08-24-2011 06:43 PM

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picked up my 2nd Paul Thompson original photo in the past 2 weeks(this one is good size too just about 7x9).......selling my Buck Weaver 1914 postcard if interested, as my focus has shifted toward photos.

milkit1 08-24-2011 07:33 PM

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milkit1 08-24-2011 09:49 PM

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Heres some more, specifically Ray Schalk (two left photos) and Kid Gleason


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CFSodano 08-25-2011 06:24 AM

Sean,

Yet another sick auto of Collins...Congrats

milkit1 08-25-2011 06:57 AM

thanks! Was there another Collins posted?

bcbgcbrcb 08-25-2011 10:11 AM

Love the photos, Paul.

Scott Garner 08-25-2011 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by bcbgcbrcb (Post 920017)
Love the photos, Paul.

+1 Very nice!!

Ladder7 08-25-2011 08:01 PM

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great snapshots!

1913 Fenway. Would any of the Chicago gurus know who the dark skinned player may be?

mschwade 08-26-2011 10:03 AM

Black Sox fans that may not own a couple of the Eight Men Out signatures yet, Huggins and Scott will have Eddie Cicotte and Chick Candil signed 3x5's in next month's auction. I felt like they needed to be rewarded with free advertising after the swiftly pulled their ACE authenticated items!

HugginsandScott.com's Cicotte and Gandil auction

Jaybird 09-07-2011 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ladder7 (Post 920240)
great snapshots!

1913 Fenway. Would any of the Chicago gurus know who the dark skinned player may be?


I just caught this thread again and don't know who the player you are asking about is. I'll do some more checking, but to my eye, that's Ping Bodie in the foreground.

http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/...cc59c5cb6d.jpg

Shoeless Moe 06-03-2012 07:06 PM

1924 Southern Minnesota League Swede Risberg Ticket Stub
 
Found this cool ticket stub, actually found 2, putting 1 up for sale, keeping the other.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=180896899702

Only post banishment ticket I've ever seen from any of the 8. Well from a league they played in I should say.

GrayGhost 06-03-2012 07:16 PM

Too bad you can't assert it FOR SURE to a game he played in. Still, a cool piece indeed. Good luck w the auction.

Jlighter 06-03-2012 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 1000472)
Found this cool ticket stub, actually found 2, putting 1 up for sale, keeping the other.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=180896899702

Only post banishment ticket I've ever seen from any of the 8. Well from a league they played in I should say.

Yeah I was the first bid on it, it's still a cool piece if one of the Black Sox played in it or not.

Mark 06-03-2012 10:19 PM

Another bat
 
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I've posted this before, but this thread is so cool, I thought I'd add it. It is the bat that started me collecting pre-war stuff many years ago.

Shoeless Moe 06-04-2012 09:49 AM

That bat is awesome
 
and the story behind it - share it with others if u like - pretty amazing find!

attellfan4life 06-04-2012 11:21 AM

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Here are a few of Attell . Sorry on the small pic. still new at this.

Runscott 06-04-2012 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 919850)
picked up my 2nd Paul Thompson original photo in the past 2 weeks(this one is good size too just about 7x9).......selling my Buck Weaver 1914 postcard if interested, as my focus has shifted toward photos.

Interesting. I just received the same photo, with a similarly-stamped back. I believe mine is also 7X9 (don't have it with me at the moment):

http://net54baseball.com/attachment....1&d=1314232869

http://images.ha.com/lf?source=url%5...vemd%5btrue%5d

mr2686 12-04-2012 07:29 AM

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Resurrecting this thread with a nice Complete Karl Wingler questionairre of Eddie Murphy from the 1919 team. Not sure how many more Sox autos I'll be picking up, but I do know there will be an Eddie Collins and Kenesaw Landis in my future :)

scooter729 12-04-2012 09:54 AM

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I'll keep it going with one from earlier this year but never added here - the 1916 squad, posing with a postal workers' convention on the field at Comiskey.

Runscott 12-04-2012 10:07 AM

I'm waiting for someone to post that 1919 Senators program, featuring the Black Sox and Walter Johnson pitching - from last week's Legendary auction.

Michael B 12-04-2012 12:49 PM

Mike,

Did you notice that Eddie Murphynoted that he had two different colored eyes? I noticed it since I have one blue and one green and my dad has one blue and one brown (like David Bowie).

Cheers,

Michael B

mr2686 12-04-2012 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael B (Post 1059029)
Mike,

Did you notice that Eddie Murphynoted that he had two different colored eyes? I noticed it since I have one blue and one green and my dad has one blue and one brown (like David Bowie).

Cheers,

Michael B

No, I hadn't noticed that. That's actually pretty cool when you see stuff like that. I also like where it asks "color hair before greying".

Shoeless Moe 11-15-2013 01:20 PM

just picked this up
 
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love that headline and looking forward to reading what Shoeless Joe admitted to....

TUM301 04-06-2014 09:19 AM

Good Ole Joe
 
"Field Of Dreams" was on again last nite. Haven`t seen it for a while, hard to believe it`s 25 years old. Reminded me of playing catch with my father and of course the Great Joe Jackson. Bye the way, is "have a catch" instead of "play catch" a more common phrase in different parts of the country?

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w...y/IMG_2931.jpg

Runscott 04-06-2014 09:40 AM

Game one of the 1919 World Series, 8th inning - Heinie Groh slides under Buck Weaver's tag at third, Lowdermilk backing up the play at left.

bgar3 04-06-2014 09:46 AM

scott
 
That photo is used for the cover of Luhr's book, The Great Baseball Mystery.

Runscott 04-06-2014 10:12 AM

Thanks for that info. My copy has stamps and slugs all over the back. The earliest stamp is 'OCT 6 1919', but there are also two from 1994 and one from 1988. It was well-used by publications.

Yi 04-09-2014 08:43 AM

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Some photos I have.

Shoeless Moe 05-20-2015 09:09 PM

One of my white whales
 
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I've been watching for 15 years now. I've seen 3 of these, one being this one, the other 2: one in a Chicago Restaurant about 6 years ago I was in and made an offer to the owner who declined. Saw another one after the fact at auction that went for a $1000 unframed (however in better condition then the one I just picked up). Mine came very nicely pre-framed. Just THEE Best Headline/Paper I've ever seen, finally snagged one.

JoeyFarino 05-21-2015 10:35 AM

http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/q...psbf0a918f.jpg

My paul thompson photo

murphusa 05-21-2015 10:44 AM

ash Wednesday?

JoeyFarino 05-21-2015 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by murphusa (Post 1413440)
ash Wednesday?

Lol...it mustve been!

Shoeless Moe 05-21-2015 08:37 PM

Yes to the person who PM'd me
 
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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 1413320)
I've been watching for 15 years now. I've seen 3 of these, one being this one, the other 2: one in a Chicago Restaurant about 6 years ago I was in and made an offer to the owner who declined. Saw another one after the fact at auction that went for a $1000 unframed (however in better condition then the one I just picked up). Mine came very nicely pre-framed. Just THEE Best Headline/Paper I've ever seen, finally snagged one.



All "8 Men out" are shown.

Joshchisox08 05-22-2015 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by snider4prez (Post 835962)
Great stuff guys!!! My favorite subject. Here are a few things I have on the old Black Soxs
Trevor


Mother of god that pennant !!!!!!!

CrazyDiamond 05-22-2015 11:34 AM

Black Sox
 
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Picked this up from another board member

ThomasL 08-15-2018 03:56 PM

reviving an old post
 
while searching through things, as Im new to the website, I thought I would post in this old thread as it is my main area of collecting. Over the years I have bought and sold many items, some I wish I had never sold (a Morris Rath signed GPC for starters). These are some autographs I currently have, including two 1917 Sox.
http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p...psyctdbcut.jpg

TUM301 08-15-2018 04:06 PM

Very nice items Thomas, please feel free to "post away" as there are many Black Sox fans on the site that enjoy seeing pieces related to the team.

ThomasL 08-24-2018 03:05 PM

Harvey McClellan 5x7 1925 Photo
 
Picked up a nice 1925 original wire photo 5x7 of Harvey McClellan that ran for his obit. Discoloration on the front due to glue used on the back to glue piece of paper with information relating to the article.

Now if I could only find an autograph of his to go with it (I have only seen one offered on the market before)

http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p...pslkirtsmv.jpg

http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p...psjnypmorl.jpg

TUM301 08-25-2018 07:53 AM

Babe and the Black Sox
 
Great picture of Harvey, Thomas, and as you said tough auto. Thought fellow Black Sox collectors might like to check out these recently purchased EBAY items. Really like the Ruth/B Sox connection with these pics of the band performance being within a week of Landis ending ending the famed B Sox playing careers.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-BA...UAAOSwQc5bZ2kD

jerseygary 08-25-2018 08:13 AM

I just did an illustration and story of McClellan for a book I'm writing about Kentucky baseball. Though in many places he's called "Harvey," his real first name was "Hervey." He was from Cynthiana, about halfway between Cincinnati and Lexington and did his WWI Army service at Fort Thomas right down the street from me. Poor guy had his career and life cut short by stomach cancer.

ss 08-25-2018 12:08 PM

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Here is a McClellan signature from a multi-signed album page.

ThomasL 08-25-2018 02:57 PM

I can never remember which one was correct Hervey or Harvey thx for the reminder!
Thanks for the pic of the auto Steve. Keating had a multi signed album page with McClellan years ago that at the time I wish I had the extra cash to splurge on it (I think his was on a blue album page...cant remember)

sphere and ash 08-25-2018 03:13 PM

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The Swede, in a contact print by Charles Conlon. I think this portrait isn’t as strong as it could be, and not nearly as strong as a portrait he took of Gandil, probably on the same day. If you have the Gandil print (or Cicotte), please contact me!

ThomasL 04-01-2019 10:14 PM

Van Buskirk Swede Risberg Signature
 
I have had a Swede Risberg signature in the past on a 3x5, but I have had my heart set on one of the fabled Van Buskirk 3x5 signatures. Final was able to purchase one this past week (JSA cert too).

A few of the Buskirk's have little imperfections as Risberg was in the hospital and signed, rumor has it, 100 index cards overnight. This one has one with the "i" in Risberg.

If anyone has an extra Felsch signature laying around or that Bill James signed contract from REA a few years back...hit me up!
[IMG]https://i347.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3fzqbvp9.jpg[/IMG]

ThomasL 10-18-2019 12:42 PM

being 100th anniversary I would think there was a lot of stuff out there available.

curious are there any cards of Grover Lowdermilk? If so if someone has one I'd love to see a picture/scan of it

mr2686 10-18-2019 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Yi (Post 1264050)
Some photos I have.

I was going back over this tread and I saw the press verbiage on the back of Gandil's photo mentioning the 1917 fix involving the White Sox and the Tigers. Interesting that obviously the 1919 team were not just pissed off about not getting a bonus, but probably were also prone to fixing games. The attached link is about the 1917 scandal, and what also is interesting is they mention Detroit pitcher Bill James. The same Bill James that made it on to the 1919 White Sox late in the season and did pitch 4.2 innings in the series giving up 8 hits annd 4 runs. Now maybe he was just washed up, or maybe...just maybe there were more than 8 men out. LOL
https://www.vintagedetroit.com/blog/...n-the-pennant/

ThomasL 10-19-2019 12:25 AM

I always thought Bill James and Byrd Lynn probably knew about the fix before the series started...James based on his involvement in the 1917 "fix" stuff and Lynn bc he was TIGHT with Jackson (WS roomate) and Lefty Williams...also both James and Lynn were West Coast PCL players...as were a vast majority of banned players (Gandil, Gedeon, Risberg, Williams, Chase, McMullin, Weaver)

ss 12-15-2019 05:05 PM

1919 Black Sox
 
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Continuing this thread. I noticed the current Written Word auction has a Buck Weaver signature (signature attached). It does not look quite right to me, but am wondering if there are any other opinions.

Shoeless Moe 12-16-2019 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ss (Post 1939313)
Continuing this thread. I noticed the current Written Word auction has a Buck Weaver signature (signature attached). It does not look quite right to me, but am wondering if there are any other opinions.

Pretty sure that's the 2nd time this one has been up for sale this year. Guessing it didn't sell the first time. I'm not an expert on sigs., but I too
checked it out a few months back and compared to his other sigs and this one just does not look like his others.

Also, a pretty common name, so worried its just another George Weaver.

Last, I think that Written Word has a few bad reviews if you do a search.

So just too many red flags.


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