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Posted By: <b>brock</b><p>Hi<br />At a local auction friday they are selling what their saying is tigers,cubs and knickerbocker's uncut team photos or something from the 1880's. Has anyone seen these before and if so are they from then, are they worth anything and are they real.Thanks<br /><br /><img src="http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r147/yanks12025/14.jpg"><br /><br /><img src="http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r147/yanks12025/15.jpg"><br /><br /><br /><img src="http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r147/yanks12025/16.jpg"><br />

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Posted By: <b>Joe D.</b><p>that they are not from then... because of the "in the 1880s" term used.<br /><br />If it were from a year in the 1880s... I think it would just say something like "1885".... as opposed to the "in the"<br /><br /><br />Might very well be vintage from a little bit after that time, or could be modern. I really don't know. I am just guessing.<br /><br /><br />Either way - those are cool looking items. They are keepers.

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Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>Others will know more about this than I, but I believe similar 'Old Judge' composites were made circa 1920s perhaps for an anniversary of the teams or league or something like that. Though obviously not originals, the circa 1920s versions have $$ value and are scarce. I've never seen one of these in person, and am retelling what I've read and heard. I think REA and Halper auctions had them (presumably pictured in the catalogs) and Rob Lifson once told me about them over the phone. As I recall, Lifson wasn't sure exactly when they were made but dated them to the early 1900s.

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Posted By: <b>Zach Rice</b><p>I saw them, too, while browsing through auctions. Not period but they don't appear new either. Neat images.

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>and at what time? <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>These have been known in the hobby for a long time and were made in the 20th century. I would value each at a few hundred dollars.

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Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>Just looked and lot #2138 of the 1999 Sotheby's/Barry Halper has a lot of four of them. They look just like the above ones except there are no player names below the individual images. Appears as in the above examples the names were handwritten in. Sotheby's describes them as being from 1926 and, they believe, were made for the 50th anniversary of the National League.

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>They were made for the 50th Anniversary of the National League. I would think they are worth more than $200 each...In fact I think I would give more than that at a live auction. Hope you get them for a bargain. <br /><br />edited to add: Yesterday I went to a house to look at a 1920's autographed Babe Ruth baseball...I had called on Tuesday to ask if I could come take pictures and they said I could....I didn't even have to pull my camera out of the bag it was so bad. The auctioneers are stand up people and very good friends of mine. They updated the listing right away. Somebody ruined a pretty nice baseball by trying to fake a Ruth signature on it as it had what looked to be legitimate autographs of Pie Traynor, Gabby Street, Bob Feller and Johnny Mostil on it.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.fordfordauctioneers.com/fordnford001.htm" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.fordfordauctioneers.com/fordnford001.htm</a>

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Posted By: <b>Joe D.</b><p>Brock has received an email or two from some potential absentee bidders.<br /><br />c'mon Steve.... fess up... did you? <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>I would if I could but I got no info <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>David Smith</b><p>Dan, I haven't looked at the auction website you posted but if the Ruth signature is fake and the other sigs are real, isn't there a way to remove the fake Ruth autograph?<br /><br />I thought I heard a couple of years ago that somebody had perfected a process where they could remove autos from baseballs and nobody could tell the difference??<br /><br />David