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prewinter 06-16-2021 10:00 PM

Identifying players in 1888 Davenport montage
 
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Before I start posting a bunch of photos and questions, does anyone know if the players in this montage of the 1888 Davenport team have been identified? If not, I would like to solicit help in identifying them. I have a list of possible players compiled from box scores, as well as photos of most (but not all) of those players. But there don't seem to be great matches for some players (to my eye). The job is complicated by the fact that there were two Davenport clubs that year, both managed by William Lucas, but with very little overlap in players. (One folded, and the other started up about a month or so later.)

Leon 06-18-2021 10:38 AM

A friendly bump to help with a few more views but this looks like a toughie :).

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skil55voy 06-18-2021 11:46 AM

Here is a list from Stat Crew - No pictures though.
 
https://www.statscrew.com/minorbaseb...dd11174/y-1888

mybuddyinc 06-18-2021 02:52 PM

Baseball Reference:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/r...gi?id=718f4da9

Scroll down to Team Roster. Quite a number of photos.

Onion Weeders --- Fun stuff, Scott :rolleyes:

prewinter 06-18-2021 04:02 PM

Working off the roster from Baseball Reference and from box scores from the 1888 games, here are the likely players in this composite (Player, date of first game, date of last game):
Al Fisher, Aug 25 - Sep 30
Gus Klopf, Aug 25 - Sep 29
Ed Mayer, Aug 25 - Sep 30
Tom McCullam, Aug 25 - Sep 28
Ben Stephens, Aug 25 - Sep 30
Tom Forster, Aug 26 - Sep 30
Al McCauley, Aug 26 - Sep 30
Art Snyder, Aug 26 - Sep 14
John Doran, Aug 28 - Sep 15
James Deegan, Sep 2 - Sep 30
Rudy Kemmler, Sep 9 - Sep 30
William Lucas (manager) - Center portrait

Davenport played its first game in the Western Association on the road in Des Moines on August 25, came home for one game on August 26, and then was back on the road again until September 12.

Leyden and Watts only played one game (on August 25) in Des Moines. Hupp played in their three games at Des Moines, but not the game on August 26 in Davenport. Whiteley only played in one game, on August 25 in Des Moines.

Ira Philips and George Scherer both played in just one game, on August 26 in Davenport. Phillips and Scherer also both played with the previous Davenport club. They played on August 26 because manager Lucas had not yet filled out the roster, or players he had signed had not joined the club.

Dick Dwyer played in the first two games of Davenport's second series, in Omaha, where Dwyer was in 1888. (He played a handful of games earlier that summer for the Omaha club.) Hoover, a member of the Chicago club, caught the first game of that series for Davenport in Omaha because the Davenport catchers were hurt.

George Treadway, George Dunn and Harry Burquin all joined the club in late September, within ten days of the club shutting down for good. If the composite were put together that late in the season, Doran and Snyder would not be in it.

I've got some photos I think match, which I would appreciate a second opinion on. I've got photos of most of the players in the list above, but I still can't seem to match everyone. Additional eyeballs would be appreciated.

prewinter 06-18-2021 04:05 PM

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Here's my match for Jim Deegan.

prewinter 06-18-2021 04:06 PM

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Here's my match for John Doran. The image for Doran is from an old Judge baseball card, from the spring of 1888.

prewinter 06-18-2021 04:08 PM

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This is my match for Ben Stephens.

prewinter 06-18-2021 04:10 PM

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This is the match for Tom Forster. The matching photos come from Baseball Reference.

prewinter 06-18-2021 04:13 PM

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Here's is my match for Thomas McCallum. The image for McCallum is from his Old Judge card.

prewinter 06-18-2021 04:21 PM

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So the above matches are the ones I feel pretty good about. After this, it gets a lot more dicey.
Here is Al Fisher. The line drawing is from 1898, so almost ten years later. I've found one true photo of him, from an 1897 Cedar Rapids team photo, but it is blurry.

prewinter 06-18-2021 04:39 PM

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These are the players I haven't identified yet (assuming I got the others right).

prewinter 06-18-2021 04:50 PM

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And finally the other suspects... I do not have photos of Snyder or Burquin. I also do not have a photo of Scherer, although I doubt he was one of the players photographed.

Anyone else who has a good eye for faces, please help if you can! Thank you for reading al this.


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