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jp1216 05-24-2023 05:26 PM

Fake '89 Ripken card in a PSA slab on eBay
 
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/225590150811

Both cards are FAKE and obviously the signature is FAKE as well. Seeing a FAKE White Scribble in a PSA slab, however, is scary. Real slab? Slipped by PSA or inserted after the fact? Buyer Beware!

eBay Seller ID: pacestrading

bnorth 05-24-2023 06:53 PM

Thanks for the heads up. Unless they recently changed their font it is different than the only PSA slab I have now. The Rs are very different. The PSA slab I have I subbed and got back a few months ago so I know it is real.

swarmee 05-24-2023 07:14 PM

Previous images of same cert number.
https://d1w8cc2yygc27j.cloudfront.ne...3606466095.jpg
https://d1w8cc2yygc27j.cloudfront.ne...3653173913.jpg

bnorth 05-24-2023 07:30 PM

So a fake card in a fake/cracked and resealed slab with a fake flip. The seller is also using the list it in a lot trick to avoid eBays authenticity guarantee.:(

JustinD 05-24-2023 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 2342679)
So a fake card in a fake/cracked and resealed slab with a fake flip. The seller is also using the list it in a lot trick to avoid eBays authenticity guarantee.:(

Not a reseal or a fake flip, just another in the long line of fly-by-night fake grading companies that will slab anything with what you ask. Feels like there is always at least 3-4 running at any time.

https://www.cardgrading.us/

jp1216 05-25-2023 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JustinD (Post 2342719)
Not a reseal or a fake flip, just another in the long line of fly-by-night fake grading companies that will slab anything with what you ask. Feels like there is always at least 3-4 running at any time.

https://www.cardgrading.us/

More concerned about the PSA slab. Has to be a fake flip, right?

JLange 05-25-2023 04:31 AM

what is going on?
 
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Unless there is something on the surface of the holder, the three pics of the Ripken card in the same PSA holder appears to show three different cards. Look closely at these areas on each card - they are all different.

bnorth 05-25-2023 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JustinD (Post 2342719)
Not a reseal or a fake flip, just another in the long line of fly-by-night fake grading companies that will slab anything with what you ask. Feels like there is always at least 3-4 running at any time.

https://www.cardgrading.us/

I am talking about the PSA card. I sent them seller a $2 offer asking if they would sell the counterfeit Scribbled Out In White card in the fake PSA slab with the fake PSA flip separately. Fingers crossed I get it.LOL

jp1216 05-25-2023 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by JLange (Post 2342739)
Unless there is something on the surface of the holder, the three pics of the Ripken card in the same PSA holder appears to show three different cards. Look closely at these areas on each card - they are all different.

The two posted by John R are the same (and real). Corners all match etc.

Note - you don't see the PSA embossed logo below the lower right corner. FAKE slab and most likely FAKE flip.

bnorth 05-25-2023 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jp1216 (Post 2342756)
The two posted by John R are the same (and real). Corners all match etc.

Note - you don't see the PSA embossed logo below the lower right corner. FAKE slab and most likely FAKE flip.

The flip is fake. The font isn't the same as any other real PSA flip I could find.

bnorth 05-25-2023 06:45 AM

As a follow up the seller pulled the listing a few minutes after me questioning them about the counterfeit card with the fake PSA flip.

JustinD 05-25-2023 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 2342747)
I am talking about the PSA card. I sent them seller a $2 offer asking if they would sell the counterfeit Scribbled Out In White card in the fake PSA slab with the fake PSA flip separately. Fingers crossed I get it.LOL

ah, got it. :)

Probably should have read instead of rushing. Not even sure why on earth they would go through the trouble.

bnorth 05-25-2023 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JustinD (Post 2342816)
ah, got it. :)

Probably should have read instead of rushing. Not even sure why on earth they would go through the trouble.

If real that version sells anywhere from $600-$1000. Even before this last crazy price increase they sold for a few hundred.

JustinD 05-26-2023 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 2342819)
If real that version sells anywhere from $600-$1000. Even before this last crazy price increase they sold for a few hundred.

Sorry, phrased that post bad. I meant that the collectors that spend the type of money that a real one would bring are like yourself, a specialized bunch. It’s a very niche card to fake and unlikely to work and work well.

Hxcmilkshake 05-26-2023 04:26 PM

Thats a "lighthouse" flip isnt it? I thought those didnt have fakes...guess I was wrong

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mrmopar 05-26-2023 05:08 PM

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The PSA sticker or holo on the graded case in the first image is almost aligned with the far side of the H in white, but in the other images, it's closer to the leading edge of the H in white.

mrmopar 05-26-2023 05:13 PM

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Not that anymore evidence is needed, but the barcodes are slightly different too.

Bcwcardz 05-26-2023 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 2342679)
So a fake card in a fake/cracked and resealed slab with a fake flip. The seller is also using the list it in a lot trick to avoid eBays authenticity guarantee.:(


The selling in a lot is a dead giveaway. There is no reason to sell that card in a lot like that. People fall for it though.


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