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Tomman1961 02-06-2021 04:57 PM

Unmarked Checklists
 
For many years I wondered why unmarked checklists do not demand a hugh price. There must be a high percentage written on. And a percentage used solely in bicycle spokes. Thoughts?

ASF123 02-06-2021 05:35 PM

Because checklists suck and no one wants to have to buy them?

But seriously, yeah, I remember hearing about an "unmarked checklist premium" years ago for exactly the reasons you mention, but it doesn't seem to have panned out that way.

dio 02-06-2021 05:46 PM

Proud to show off the $20k gem mint psa 10 checklist. Look at the names. So beautiful

swarmee 02-06-2021 06:18 PM

Part of the reason is that for most series, the checklists were double or triple printed. So there are just so many of them. Many don't even show players.
But yes, ones in high grade are needed for registry sets, but aside from the '56/'57 checklists, there isn't a lot of pizzazz.

JollyElm 02-06-2021 06:25 PM

Probably because most of us as kids considered them 'junk' cards. Even the ones with stars or HOF'ers on them are hard to get excited about. And if you add in the fact that Topps usually double printed most of them (having them issued in both the current and preceding series), that the rarity of the unmarked versions is somewhat mitigated by the glut of the cards in existence.

For me, the only one I care about is the rare 1963 Fleer checklist. That's a beauty to get your hands on.

savedfrommyspokes 02-07-2021 05:48 AM

While checklists from 1961-1972 are seemingly inexpensive due to the previously mentioned fact that most are double printed, there are a few higher series checklist cards that are priced similarly to other common cards from the higher series they appear in.

However, the market for checklist cards from 1973-1975 does not compare to commons from their respective sets as they do from 1961-1972. An unmarked checklist in NM shape from these 3 years will set you back $10-15 each. From 1976 on, checklist card prices parallel common prices.

Tomman1961 02-07-2021 12:39 PM

I was not aware they were double or triple printed. That could make uo for the marked, straight to garbage, or spokes. Just figured with nop one wanting them in the early days, set builders have to have them. And that would drive a high price. (No-I am not sitting on a hoard.)

Kutcher55 02-07-2021 01:22 PM

'57 Checklists, especially the 3/4 and 4/5 are insanely expensive these days.
Grade for grade they might be more expensive than any card in the set other than the Mick.

riggs336 02-07-2021 01:27 PM

"For me, the only one I care about is the rare 1963 Fleer checklist. That's a beauty to get your hands on."
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I agree about the desirability of the '63 Fleer checklist, but the grail of unmarked baseball checklists seems to be the 1957 Topps series 4/5.

whiteymet 02-07-2021 02:02 PM

As a 10 year old in 1960, I and all the kids in the neighborhood kept our cards by team NOT by number.

We looked at a checklist card and found a player none of us had in our team sets and wondered who he was and why he was so rare. His name on the checklist was W.S. Composite. Pronounced by us as "Compo zeet" Initials instead of a first name much like J.C. Martin of the White Sox who is also in the set. Makes sense, no?

We were all looking for the card, but no luck. One night at dinner I was telling my father about it and showed him his name on the checklist card right under all the World Series cards. He laughed and told me the card was the World Series Composite. Composite, a word none of us 10 Y.O.'s had ever heard before.

Turns out of course, all of us had the card in our "odd"pile!

cardsagain74 02-07-2021 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riggs336 (Post 2065637)
"For me, the only one I care about is the rare 1963 Fleer checklist. That's a beauty to get your hands on."
_________

I agree about the desirability of the '63 Fleer checklist, but the grail of unmarked baseball checklists seems to be the 1957 Topps series 4/5.

Even marked, it's still the grail. Nowadays it commands a few hundred bucks for a marked (otherwise) G/VG. Not sure if any others are even that close to that

carlsonjok 02-07-2021 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JollyElm (Post 2065352)
For me, the only one I care about is the rare 1963 Fleer checklist. That's a beauty to get your hands on.

I got an unchecked version for about $75, but it looks like it was used to balance a wobbly table. I've often wondered if there was any checklists out there signed by a member of the family that was running the company at the time. I may never get a signed Clemente, but I would pay a premium for such a signed checklist.

JollyElm 02-07-2021 03:13 PM

I found one in a baseball card store a few years ago that looked beautiful. The owner had just bought a collection of cards and I was seemingly the first to dig through the box. Without a doubt in my mind, I knew the next person to see it would buy that sucker right up, so I negotiated for it and some other things, and got a good bargain. I was thrilled!!! It now sits in a PSA 7 holder. Then a while later, I used one of the ebay 15% coupons to pick up a second one.

riggs336 02-07-2021 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cardsagain74 (Post 2065683)
Even marked, it's still the grail. Nowadays it commands a few hundred bucks for a marked (otherwise) G/VG. Not sure if any others are even that close to that

You're absolutely right. 15 years ago I paid $100 for a Bazooka 4/5 marked on both sides in bright red ink. I was able to find an unmarked Big Blony later but I'm not going to say what I paid for it.

cardsagain74 02-08-2021 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by riggs336 (Post 2065699)
You're absolutely right. 15 years ago I paid $100 for a Bazooka 4/5 marked on both sides in bright red ink. I was able to find an unmarked Big Blony later but I'm not going to say what I paid for it.

My 4/5 is marked and about a raw 3 otherwise, and I feel fortunate to have it. But I can't remember if it's Bazooka or Big Blony

That should disqualify me from owning one :o

ALR-bishop 02-09-2021 12:41 PM

I have settled for marked in some cases

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