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insidethewrapper 07-22-2021 02:38 PM

Karras, Hornung in HOF but not Rose ?
 
I see Alex Karras and Paul Hornung are in the NFL HOF and they bet on football games but Pete Rose is still on the outside ? Do you think Pete will get in someday or is baseball more rigid and less forgiving than the NFL ?

Peter_Spaeth 07-22-2021 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by insidethewrapper (Post 2125583)
I see Alex Karras and Paul Hornung are in the NFL HOF and they bet on football games but Pete Rose is still on the outside ? Do you think Pete will get in someday or is baseball more rigid and less forgiving than the NFL ?

I don't think he'll get in during his lifetime. Perhaps afterwards.

LibSuperstar 07-22-2021 05:05 PM

idiot is now banned

Michael B 07-22-2021 05:10 PM

Really? ASSHOLE!!!!!!

Aquarian Sports Cards 07-22-2021 05:12 PM

Hornung doesn't belong in on the merits actually so that's a real travesty. Karras had to wait forever to get in.

vintagetoppsguy 07-22-2021 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael B (Post 2125632)
Really? ASSHOLE!!!!!!

+1

He's posted more in another thread.

egri 07-23-2021 05:09 AM

His post history until those was relatively normal; I hope he was a troll playing the long con and not someone whose account got hacked.

Mark17 07-23-2021 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 2125636)
Hornung doesn't belong in on the merits actually so that's a real travesty. Karras had to wait forever to get in.

His well documented cruelty to animals hurt Karras:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVpypcLbbIE

jiw98 07-24-2021 07:49 PM

Football HOF has admitted steroid users in their HOF. Maybe it's time to let Bonds,Clemens, and others in the Baseball HOF. JMO

Aquarian Sports Cards 07-24-2021 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark17 (Post 2125996)
His well documented cruelty to animals hurt Karras:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVpypcLbbIE

without clicking the link I'm assuming Mungo is punching a horse?

SteveWhite 07-25-2021 10:06 AM

Pro Football Hall of Fame only considers what happened on the field. Baseball Hall of Fame considers off field issues.

butchie_t 07-25-2021 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jiw98 (Post 2126423)
Football HOF has admitted steroid users in their HOF. Maybe it's time to let Bonds,Clemens, and others in the Baseball HOF. JMO

In a word…….no. JMHO

D. Bergin 07-25-2021 11:42 AM

I don't think if you made an even cursory look into the circumstances of the Hornung and Karras cases, and then the Rose case............you could see that they were even remotely similar.

Hornung and Karras pretty much outed themselves in the press thinking they were doing something completely innocent, in making friendly wagers among friends.

Karras was probably the more serious case, because he was also associated via business interests with known mobsters and gamblers, but even he was pretty up front about it. Basically said if the NFL wants him to drop his off-season business interests, then the Lions need to start paying him a little better.

They were both suspended for a season and then re-instated the next year...........lesson learned apparently.

Closest correlation in the baseball world would probably be Mantle and Mays being banned from baseball for a bit, for associating with casinos in the early 80's.

Mark17 07-25-2021 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by D. Bergin (Post 2126589)

Closest correlation in the baseball world would probably be Mantle and Mays being banned from baseball for a bit, for associating with casinos in the early 80's.

And Durocher, being banned in 1947 for his associations.


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