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Brianruns10 04-02-2021 09:05 AM

Advice for Shipping High Value Card
 
Hey All,

So I find myself in a rather unprecedented situation. I've sold plenty of cards in the past, but they all were under $5000, and the shipping logistics fairly straightforward and without concern.

Well, I've decided to sell my '52 Mays PSA 6, and based on past sales, I think there's a good chance it will sell for more than $25K. I have absolutely no experience with a sale of this size. Honestly, I'm a little freaked just by the idea of taking it in and having to declare a value!

I'm wondering if any of you have advice for me as far as the most secure shipping methods? Do any of the big 3 shippers offer a service especially for very high dollar items? The closest I can think of is USPS registered mail, but USPS is pretty dodgy these days, so I'm wondering if Fedex or UPS offer similar or better?

Any advice would be deeply appreciated. Thanks all!

bnorth 04-02-2021 09:08 AM

USPS registered mail. Just be prepared because sometimes it takes a very long time to get there.

bobbyw8469 04-02-2021 09:09 AM

FedEx and UPS don't value collectibles that high. It is in their fine print. For that reason, I would NOT use them. Sure, they would SELL you the insurance. But try to collect if something goes South.

Brianruns10 04-02-2021 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 2088730)
USPS registered mail. Just be prepared because sometimes it takes a very long time to get there.

Yeah I think this may be the route I have to go. It looks like they insure for up to $50,000, if I'm not mistaken? My card won't exceed that, I know that much, but I have no idea what it might actually sell for. It's insurance that I suppose is the greatest concern.

conor912 04-02-2021 09:35 AM

As Ben said, be prepared, and make sure the buyer knows, that it will take a while....possibly a couple weeks or longer. Registered mail has an insane chain of custody log so it’s as safe as anything, but the wait can be tortuous.

bks14sr 04-02-2021 09:42 AM

Insure your cards prior to shipment (if you haven’t already) and then ship either registered USPS or Fedex express. Shipping companies only insure to a specific amount, but your personal policy picks up the delta. Regarding registered mail, as others have mentioned, it’s painfully slow. Just shipped something registered last week. The shipment was from west coast FL to east coast FL, took 4 days.

AGuinness 04-02-2021 09:45 AM

There's another thread about insurance on a collection, which may cover items in transit. If you have insurance, that might take care of things. If you don't, perhaps reaching out to see your options, such as even a policy to just cover this one item in transit, may be worthwhile.

bobbyw8469 04-02-2021 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bks14sr (Post 2088742)
Insure your cards prior to shipment (if you haven’t already) and then ship either registered USPS or Fedex express. Shipping companies only insure to a specific amount, but your personal policy picks up the delta. Regarding registered mail, as others have mentioned, it’s painfully slow. Just shipped something registered last week. The shipment was from west coast FL to east coast FL, took 4 days.

FedEx doesn't insure collectibles. Please don't pass along bad info.

hcv123 04-02-2021 11:09 AM

Yup
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 2088730)
USPS registered mail. Just be prepared because sometimes it takes a very long time to get there.

Registered is the ONLY way to go. Deal with the "extra" time to get there, but sleep well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 2088768)
FedEx doesn't insure collectibles. Please don't pass along bad info.

ABSOLUTLEY - DO NOT USE FEDEX!!!! THEY WILL ONLY PAY OUT UP TO $1K FOR COLLECTIBLES.

bnorth 04-02-2021 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 2088768)
FedEx doesn't insure collectibles. Please don't pass along bad info.

He was not passing bad info. He clearly stated your personal insurance would cover the rest. That is if you have collectors insurance, he also stated to get it first if you don't already have it.

Brianruns10 04-02-2021 11:18 AM

Thanks for the great advice all! I'm going to go with Registered mail and get insurance. Plus I've already contacted my insurance agent and I'm arranging to get the card insured through transit, so I'll be doubly covered. It wound up being very straightforward to set up, thanks to all your helpful words. I can rest easy now.

Much appreciated. Have a terrific weekend everyone!

bks14sr 04-02-2021 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 2088768)
FedEx doesn't insure collectibles. Please don't pass along bad info.

Read my post again. Insure privately. My insurance company, Collectibles Insurance, recommends both USPS specific services (registered and express) and Fedex specific services. I don’t care what a shipping companies insurance limits are, as I insure myself, and the private policy pays the difference. So, stop spreading ignorant info yourself.

Fred 04-02-2021 11:42 AM

Interesting topic - so... how much does it cost to insure a $25K card for shipment (please include the insurance cost of the carrier and private insurance premiums)? Lets stick with a private collector selling on ebay. What about a $100K and $1M card?

Things have gone rather crazy lately. An assumption is that some of these auction houses self-insure to reduce the cost. Is that a good assumption?

jcmtiger 04-02-2021 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 2088768)
FedEx doesn't insure collectibles. Please don't pass along bad info.

Right, was sending some high $ Items to an auction house, FedEx no insurance.

Johnny630 04-02-2021 12:30 PM

Drive There Fly There Take A Train anything but shipping it!!!

I had all three major US Carriers do one or more of the following over the past two years losing a package, damage to item, and or stolen.

bnorth 04-02-2021 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny630 (Post 2088803)
Drive There Fly There Take A Train anything but shipping it!!!

I had all three major US Carriers do one or more of the following over the past two years losing a package, damage to item, and or stolen.

Depending on shipping price it could be worth it. Heck it could even be a nice small vacation.

conor912 04-02-2021 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred (Post 2088786)
Interesting topic - so... how much does it cost to insure a $25K card for shipment (please include the insurance cost of the carrier and private insurance premiums)? Lets stick with a private collector selling on ebay. What about a $100K and $1M card?

Things have gone rather crazy lately. An assumption is that some of these auction houses self-insure to reduce the cost. Is that a good assumption?

If I recall correctly, it is about 1% of the declared value.

glchen 04-02-2021 05:36 PM

I’ll add my two cents here. I’ve shipped a number of packages over 10k, and I personally believe in speed. That is, I’d go for overnight or even two day shipping rather than registered. You’ll know in 1-2 days whether your package arrived safely rather than to constantly check tracking. Of course make sure your item is very well packaged so even if it were ran over by a car, the card would still be safe and sound. And use a pre-printed shipping label rather than handwriting one so there’s no chance the shipper can’t read your handwriting. Good luck!

Jim65 04-02-2021 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by glchen (Post 2088903)
I’ll add my two cents here. I’ve shipped a number of packages over 10k, and I personally believe in speed. That is, I’d go for overnight or even two day shipping rather than registered. You’ll know in 1-2 days whether your package arrived safely rather than to constantly check tracking. Of course make sure your item is very well packaged so even if it were ran over by a car, the card would still be safe and sound. And use a pre-printed shipping label rather than handwriting one so there’s no chance the shipper can’t read your handwriting. Good luck!

IMO, the less time a carrier has your item, the less chance for them to lose or damage it, Overnight with private insurance is the way to go.

bnorth 04-02-2021 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glchen (Post 2088903)
I’ll add my two cents here. I’ve shipped a number of packages over 10k, and I personally believe in speed. That is, I’d go for overnight or even two day shipping rather than registered. You’ll know in 1-2 days whether your package arrived safely rather than to constantly check tracking. Of course make sure your item is very well packaged so even if it were ran over by a car, the card would still be safe and sound. And use a pre-printed shipping label rather than handwriting one so there’s no chance the shipper can’t read your handwriting. Good luck!

I sent a package to a fellow member using 2 day last week, it still isn't there.:(
They all seems to be hit and miss.

Snapolit1 04-02-2021 06:44 PM

Everything has a risk

I sent a very expensive card to an AH this year by fed ex. Next morning delivery. Held my breathe. Set up tracking.

AH had in hand by 11 next day

I agree with what someone said above. The less time in transit the better. The idea of 37 USPS employees laying their hands on my package and passing it around like a hot potato for 3 weeks scares the jejeezus out of me. And then one guy is on vacation and it sits for 3 days. Nope. Get it over with quickly. Like ripping off a band aid.

notfast 04-02-2021 06:54 PM

USPS Express and a third party insurance plan.

If you don’t have that plan, buy a plane ticket and exchange in the airport bar.

trambo 04-03-2021 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred (Post 2088786)
Interesting topic - so... how much does it cost to insure a $25K card for shipment (please include the insurance cost of the carrier and private insurance premiums)? Lets stick with a private collector selling on ebay. What about a $100K and $1M card?

Things have gone rather crazy lately. An assumption is that some of these auction houses self-insure to reduce the cost. Is that a good assumption?

I do registered for anything over $5k. For pricing reference, I sent a package that way about 3 weeks ago for $16k in declared (insured) value and it was around $55 to ship. Sure it took about 5-6 days longer than a normal package but I wasn’t worried about it being lost. I make sure the other party knows I’m shipping that way and to be prepared for the few extra days.


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