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GaryPassamonte 03-27-2020 01:41 PM

19th Century Bats
 
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Since the game used bats thread is going so well, I thought I'd start another bat thread showing bats from my favorite era, the 19th century. Here's a tiger maple bat acquired from a fellow board member a few years ago.

eastonfalcon19 03-27-2020 01:57 PM

Beautiful bat Gary. Can’t wait to see more 19th century bats.

aelefson 03-27-2020 03:30 PM

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Gret topic and good timing as I just pulled these out of my closet. Gary, great bat! How long is it? Here are my favorites. The first is a ring bat, 37 inches long with League in the center. The second is 41.5 inches long and has a knob that matches another large bat with an 1865 patent date so I believe this is my oldest bat. I found the first in an old collector's home and the second at an antique store. The last picture shows the two bats next to a 35 inch store model bat.

Alan

perezfan 03-27-2020 03:55 PM

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Fantastic stuff guys!

Here are a few of mine...

Top Bat is probably my eariest, circa 1870s

5th one down is an ornate Ball Knob Bat

4th from the bottom is my version of a Tiger-striped Bat

2nd from the bottom is a rare Spalding Zebra Stripe Bat

Very bottom is a super rare 37" Spalding Ring Bat made of Willow


The last photo just shows greater close-up detail of the Spalding Zebra Stripe and Willow Ring Bats.

GaryPassamonte 03-27-2020 04:40 PM

35", Alan. Great bats so far. Keep them coming.

JoeDfan 03-28-2020 09:00 AM

Oh, those are all so gorgeous!

Yanks23 03-28-2020 10:05 AM

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Store front / folk art-esque...

jpop43 03-28-2020 03:00 PM

19th Century Bats
 
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Bless your heart, Gary...a thread like this gives me something to think about other then, well...the obvious these days. I'm gonna post a bunch here so please forgive me. After we've exhausted bat, lets think about 19th C. balls, images, anything, etc.

We'll start with the Spalding bats...this one here is 35" and near pristine.

jpop43 03-28-2020 03:02 PM

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Spalding Axletree...34"

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Spalding Wagon Tongue...34"

jpop43 03-28-2020 03:05 PM

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Standard Bat Co...Antique and Special League Models...both in excess of 34" and uncracked.

jpop43 03-28-2020 03:09 PM

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Wright and Ditson...36" ring bat...the exact same model that Mike Kelly is holding in his famous portrait to include the wear pattern on the centerbrand and rings....kinda, sorta.

jpop43 03-28-2020 03:11 PM

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Presentation / Trophy Bat...sterling silver on rosewood...34"...minty.

jpop43 03-28-2020 03:12 PM

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League Model bat with Nautical Star...36"

jpop43 03-28-2020 03:13 PM

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Reach ring model bat...34"

jpop43 03-28-2020 03:16 PM

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Peck and Snyder ring model bat...a thick 35" and un-cracked...the earliest P&S bat we've ever owned.

jpop43 03-28-2020 03:18 PM

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Circa 1880s, "Eagle Prize Bat" presented to the Brooklyn Writers Nine.

jpop43 03-28-2020 03:21 PM

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Circa 1860s- mid 1870s (at the latest), wrapped handle bats...in this case, leather bound handles. We own three of these unique models.

Bat 1:

jpop43 03-28-2020 03:21 PM

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Leather Wrapped Handle bat 2:

jpop43 03-28-2020 03:23 PM

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Leather Wrapped Handle Bat 3:

jpop43 03-28-2020 03:26 PM

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"Regulation" model ring bat...36" with gold rings and lettering, and one of the most beautiful grain patterns I've seen on a bat from this, or any era.

jpop43 03-28-2020 03:31 PM

So, those there are 15 examples of our 19th C. bats...I've got a few more, but still need to take photos. I hope this tread keeps on going for a while yet. Enjoy!!

Jonathan

GaryPassamonte 03-28-2020 03:39 PM

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Cool bat, Tim.

Jonathan- What can I say? Off the charts!

Here's a cousin to your leather wrapped handle bats. Twine wrapped handle made of very light wood, maybe willow or pine. Circa 1860s and 40".

jpop43 03-28-2020 04:41 PM

Trophy/Presentation Bat...37" example with engraved, sterling silver ring.

I should probably add the pics...

jpop43 03-28-2020 04:42 PM

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Here we go...

doug.goodman 03-28-2020 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jpop43 (Post 1965755)
So, those there are 15 examples of our 19th C. bats...I've got a few more, but still need to take photos. I hope this tread keeps on going for a while yet. Enjoy!!

Jonathan

I have nothing to add to this thread, but I sure do like it.

Doug

Rob L 03-28-2020 11:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GaryPassamonte (Post 1965401)
Since the game used bats thread is going so well, I thought I'd start another bat thread showing bats from my favorite era, the 19th century. Here's a tiger maple bat acquired from a fellow board member a few years ago.

Here’s a few of mine.

GaryPassamonte 03-29-2020 05:09 AM

Mark-Does willow generally have the blotchy pattern on your Spalding bat? I can identify ash, but after that it gets more difficult. Spalding even advertise a cherry wood bat. I don't think I've ever seen one.

bgar3 03-29-2020 07:12 AM

Love the bats everyone. I have 19th century stuff, but alas, no bats.
Jonathan, I would still love to acquire one of your Brooklyn presentation bats.
Trade?

perezfan 03-29-2020 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by GaryPassamonte (Post 1965885)
Mark-Does willow generally have the blotchy pattern on your Spalding bat? I can identify ash, but after that it gets more difficult. Spalding even advertise a cherry wood bat. I don't think I've ever seen one.

Yes Willow often has that blotchy looking surface. It's also rather soft to the touch, and is noticeable lighter than ash or hickory.

It would be cool to see a Cherry Wood Spalding, as I don't think I've ever seen one of these. If anyone knows about them (or has a shot at owning one), perhaps it's Jeff Mann. But I'm not sure if Jeff frequents this forum. Maybe Matt Hart or JPOP can chime in, as they might have knowledge of one.

GaryPassamonte 03-29-2020 01:36 PM

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Mark et al- Here is a bat that should arrive tomorrow thanks to a board member. It is a Spalding No. 3 and is made from basswood, which is even lighter than willow. It is 34" long and weighs 26 ozs. and is made from "polished" basswood, as described in 1879 and 1885 Spalding catalogs.

perezfan 03-29-2020 04:13 PM

Well that's about as nice as they come. I can't imagine a more pristine centerbrand than that ancient Basswood Spalding has.

Is there any restoration, or is it actually all-original? Just beautiful!

GaryPassamonte 03-29-2020 04:27 PM

The backside has a very small period nail repair in the handle unfortunately, but the bat will display beautifully. The label and patina are as good as it gets.

Bill Rayburn 03-29-2020 05:12 PM

Guys, all those bats are just killers. Thanks Gary for starting this thread.

orator1 03-30-2020 08:55 PM

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These two bats were pictured in an 1874 Boston Red Stockings team photo. The labels are not visible, but can anyone identify what type of bats these are?

GaryPassamonte 03-31-2020 03:36 AM

Hi Paul. The bat on the right sure looks a lot like Jonathan's Snyder bat, even though it is one year earlier.

khkco4bls 03-31-2020 07:31 AM

The one on the right is a typical twine model

orator1 03-31-2020 07:39 AM

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The 1874 bat looks thicker and the handle wrap covers less of the bat.

GaryPassamonte 03-31-2020 01:02 PM

Kevin- Spalding catalogs advertise wound handle bats. Do you know if they mean twine or leather and do you know if any survive?

John V 03-31-2020 04:49 PM

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The Spalding is 35” and the Standard is 38”.
It’s my understanding both are willow.

eastonfalcon19 03-31-2020 06:57 PM

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Here are mine although they don't compare to the others that are posted. I'm guessing the last bat I posted is a 19th century homemade bat. It weighs a ton too.

eastonfalcon19 03-31-2020 07:00 PM

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38 inches long.

CarltonHendricks 04-11-2020 06:58 AM

Congtrats...
 
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Circa 1880s, "Eagle Prize Bat" presented to the Brooklyn Writers Nine.

What a beauty!!!

CarltonHendricks 04-11-2020 07:00 AM

Congtrats...
 
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Peck and Snyder ring model bat...a thick 35" and un-cracked...the earliest P&S bat we've ever owned.

What an incredible example of a 19th century bat...congrats...How did you come into that...

CarltonHendricks 04-11-2020 07:03 AM

Good one....
 
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These two bats were pictured in an 1874 Boston Red Stockings team photo. The labels are not visible, but can anyone identify what type of bats these are?

Luv it...nothing like proof positive what they used...

bgar3 04-11-2020 07:51 AM

Not an actual bat, but a fairly early bat bag.
 
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Most of the players in this photo played in the game in which Harvard led the 1870 Red Stockings by by 5 runs with 2 outs in the nineth
, but lost. This would have been their first loss ever at home. I also like that it has Archie Bush in it, as Cummings threw the first curve ball in a game against him. I love this thread, but have no actual bat, never trusting myself to get a real one. Anyway, hope you enjoy seeing an early bat bag.

jpop43 04-11-2020 03:13 PM

Thanks for the kind words and interest in the bats, Carlton...like everyone else, not much to the discoveries other than many years, lots of leg work, and money that wasn't easy to part with!

The Eagle Prize bat was acquired via trade, and the P&S ring bat was an ebay purchase. Soon as it hit the block we apparently made the right offer.

I too love looking at period images and seeing if equipment in the collection matches up...these days (unfortunately), its become quite a pastime.

Jonathan
www.dugouttreasures.com

pedodds 04-15-2020 08:58 AM

I have a few 19th century bats to add to the post
 
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1. Banana
2. Ball Balanced
3. Burnt Striped Spalding Mushroom
4. Crown Standard Tiger Maple
5. Fancy Stripe League Bat
6. L.C. Dole & Co.
7. League Club
8. W&D Fungo
9. 1870's Black Walnut
10. Leather grip handle with folk art star
11. Wagon Tongue Double "Strike This Way of Grain"
12. Fancy Grip Spalding Wagon Tongue
13. Fancy The Spalding
14. Town Bat

perezfan 04-15-2020 01:19 PM

Great stuff... Love 'em all (especially the Banana!)

GaryPassamonte 04-15-2020 03:45 PM

So many great bats!


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