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ALR-bishop 11-07-2022 11:53 AM

Maybe University of Phoenix 😊

bnorth 11-07-2022 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by philliesfan (Post 2281350)
Gee. With several people thinking highly of the Ryan card, maybe I should list it on auction..........maybe it could pay for my son's next semester at Temple University. haha I wish!
Bob

I doubt it would do that but I would be a bidder and it has nothing to do with being a Nolan Ryan card.:)

G1911 11-11-2022 10:56 PM

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I don't know 1976-mid 80's well, have recently picked up some of the sets to extend my Topps run. Apologies if I've noticed something in my stacks that isn't actually new.

1981 #76 Mario Mendoza (the legend himself!) comes with or without a gap in the bottom of the black frame. Gap seems to be tougher

G1911 11-11-2022 10:59 PM

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Card #9 Pete LaCock comes with or without the "s" in "Royals" in the write-up below his stats cut off, or printed correctly. Both appear to be common and easy.

G1911 11-11-2022 11:03 PM

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#58 Joel Youngblood with black smearing over his name. This isn't a random ink smear, a look at COMC suggests a fairly high percentage of Youngblood's cards have this exact smear pattern defect and it is commonly recurring.

G1911 11-11-2022 11:30 PM

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Like Youngblood, Mike Phillips #113 has frequent recurring black smearing, although the pattern of it changes heavily. Seems like half or so of Phillips cards have some version of it.

G1911 11-12-2022 12:25 AM

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243 Sal Butera, with light green slash in his cheek. This version doesn't appear to be difficult.

G1911 11-12-2022 12:14 PM

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311 Freddie Patek, 5'4 wonder, with yellow spotting by Topps logo, name, and lower right of the image. Appears to be tough.

G1911 11-12-2022 12:21 PM

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333 Lee Lacy, with red all over the lower half of his jersey. Most copies do not have any red here at all.

G1911 11-12-2022 12:41 PM

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412 Britt Burns, with pink spotting over the sky. The exact pattern of the pink varies card by card, but is recurring. Most copies don't have the stray pink at all.

ALR-bishop 11-12-2022 01:15 PM

Lacy and a bunch of other 81s have a no top border version. I have 27 of them. I think Cliff may have more than that They are recurring but scarce

G1911 11-12-2022 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ALR-bishop (Post 2283034)
Lacy and a bunch of other 81s have a no top border version. I have 27 of them. I think Cliff may have more than that They are recurring but scarce

Thank you Al, good to know. I don’t know anything about this set, I collected junk wax as a kid because it was so cheap, and I have always been into vintage, but 1976-1984 has been a blank spot. I bought 1980-1984 sets the last three months and am just starting to go through them, pulling any print defects I find that I can find as recurring.

Apologies if any of these recurring defects are already known to you gentlemen who know these sets better.

Are the two back stocks known? There is clearly a light and dark grey stock here. There is more of the dark grey in this particular set I bought for $50.

So far John Pacella with his hat falling off is the coolest card, no offense to the stud rookies.

G1911 11-12-2022 03:05 PM

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Back to cataloguing my set, I've found 437 Mike Heath with this defect running through the blue border and up to above his helmet. I see another on COMC, but it seems most copies of the card do not have this defect

G1911 11-12-2022 03:11 PM

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443 Jim Beattie, with the thin white frame between the yellow and the image being yellow, not white, at bottom above his name. Note that the yellow ink layer is not misaligned, causing it to go higher than normal, there is more yellow than there should be. Most copies have this area white, correctly.

G1911 11-12-2022 03:19 PM

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452 Renie Martin. The team logo cap has an orange strip between the bill and the main body of the cap (I don't know if there is a word for that part of the cap...) and another one on the end of the bill. Note that this puts orange where it would not be even if the ink layers were misaligned. A check of COMC shows this is recurring.

What a happy guy!

G1911 11-12-2022 03:34 PM

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476 Jerry Koosman, with the brim of the cap logo having a red layer following it's out edge. No red should be there at all, I think. Recurring confirmed.

G1911 11-12-2022 05:55 PM

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Just like Beattie, Gary Thomasson comes this way or correct as well.

G1911 11-12-2022 05:56 PM

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And Lee Mazzilli appears to come more often than not with black smearing in the name box. Took me a second to find a card that doesn't have it.

G1911 11-12-2022 06:05 PM

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599 Kinney can come with a white line running through the logo cap and through the name box.

G1911 11-12-2022 06:08 PM

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The majority of 600 Bench's come with some kind of black smearing in the name box. Seems like a number of cards had recurring problems here

G1911 11-12-2022 06:15 PM

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601 Don Aase comes with this yellowish/greenish mark below the team name in the logo cap. Doesn't seem to be too hard.

Pat R 11-12-2022 08:55 PM

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A couple of weeks ago on a rainy day I dug out a box of 90 Topps to look for some variations I found a few but nothing great just normal print defects.

Frank Robinson with a blotch over the trademark
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Phil Stephenson with a yellow "slash" in the corner that looks like it could have carried over on the card next to it
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Bert Blyleven with what looks like a hair or fiber
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G1911 11-13-2022 11:07 AM

This might be the earliest hair relic card!

steve B 11-14-2022 10:54 AM

I'm not positive about the cause, but most if not all of the 81 set comes with "regular" or "low contrast" backs.

https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...pictureid=4447

ALR-bishop 11-17-2022 02:07 PM

The 81 Bench 600 can be found with a missing top front border

ALR-bishop 11-18-2022 02:39 PM

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Another Aase

ALR-bishop 11-18-2022 02:55 PM

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Another 90

G1911 11-22-2022 12:51 AM

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1984 Topps 126 Braves Leaders comes with or without this bluish smudge in Murphy's name box. Seems common.

ALR-bishop 11-22-2022 09:43 AM

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I think the Murphy may involve 2 true variations, the one you posted being a transition card. The top one is scarce

G1911 11-22-2022 10:31 AM

Thank you Al, sorry that one is not new. I don’t know the 80’s too well so highlighting the ones I find in my sets that I can ID as recurring and haven’t seen before.

G1911 11-23-2022 03:15 PM

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#233 checklist comes with or without this slash mark in the lower right.

It can also have a blue spot below 192 Essasky.

More importantly, while sorting this 1984 set, I have learned the "complete set" is missing a card, which just happens to be the Darryl Strawberry Rookie Card. I'm forming a posse to go get the bastard who sold it to me.

G1911 11-23-2022 09:34 PM

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738 Bill Schroeder comes with or without this line to the right of the secondary portrait photo.

G1911 11-23-2022 09:38 PM

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The same dual lines, next to the secondary photo and in it, recurs on 746 Mickey Hatcher as a variant.

G1911 11-23-2022 10:28 PM

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1983 #130 Dave Stieb, this slash through his torso is recurring.

ALR-bishop 12-05-2022 02:48 PM

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The Schroeder/Hatcher defect can also be found on Henderson and Bair....plus some other 84 oddities

ALR-bishop 12-05-2022 02:50 PM

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Closer up

ALR-bishop 12-05-2022 02:55 PM

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And the 84 Encased or Head Outside the box cards

ALR-bishop 12-05-2022 03:04 PM

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Another 84 oddity

G1911 12-14-2022 12:43 AM

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1982 Simmons comes with or without a dash below his 1972 stats. No dash is easier but COMC has 3 examples under a dollar right now (not mine) so the dash can't be tough.

ALR-bishop 12-14-2022 09:49 AM

Lucky for you.....and Shane.... he was no longer a Cardinal in 82

G1911 12-14-2022 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ALR-bishop (Post 2293953)
Lucky for you.....and Shane.... he was no longer a Cardinal in 82

However, the recurring defect occurs on a Cardinals stat line. I may have accidentally and inadvertently violated our Cardinal rule. What have I done?! :(

Rich Klein 12-14-2022 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2293858)
1982 Simmons comes with or without a dash below his 1972 stats. No dash is easier but COMC has 3 examples under a dollar right now (not mine) so the dash can't be tough.

Sorted these out in the COMC Data Base this afternoon. For sure a variation and enough in the DB to say both varieties have their own listing.

Rich

G1911 12-16-2022 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich Klein (Post 2294023)
Sorted these out in the COMC Data Base this afternoon. For sure a variation and enough in the DB to say both varieties have their own listing.

Rich

Be careful, or we freaks are going to keep you busy logging our printing freaks :D

G1911 12-16-2022 12:12 AM

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Marty Castillo, #303 in the 1984 Topps set, comes with or without this red slash line running from next to the "I" in Tigers down to Castillo's leg. I believe it is fairly difficult.

G1911 12-18-2022 09:16 PM

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Was gifted this one today by a generous gentleman. 1986 Topps #567 Jeff Barkley, with peachy splotch to right. I think these are fairly uncommon.

G1911 12-18-2022 09:57 PM

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#108 Jim Gantner has this black mark in the left border, recurring fairly frequently.

G1911 12-18-2022 10:24 PM

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109 R.J. Reynolds, with a slash in the bottom of his last name.

ALR-bishop 12-19-2022 10:55 AM

Apparently the Ganter in also an UER

Cliff Bowman 12-19-2022 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ALR-bishop (Post 2295739)
Apparently the Ganter in also an UER

The uncorrected error is the reverse photo with the Brewers emblem on his hat backwards, there are a few 87 Topps Gantner cards with the errant ink mark on eBay.

ALR-bishop 12-19-2022 02:32 PM

I had to look for one without out it:)


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