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Posted By: <b>Doug</b><p>Is it just me or is this the same one from the Mastro auction that just ended? <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=280184465621&Category= 55917&_trksid=p3907.m29" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=280184465621&Category= 55917&_trksid=p3907.m29</a>

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Posted By: <b>fkw</b><p>Good eye Doug, it is the same card that sold for $9777+

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Posted By: <b>Doug</b><p>I'm not sure, but I thought Mastro wasn't even sending out invoices until Monday so even if this guy won it, how is he already selling it? Another strange thing is that I could have sworn that this card ended yesterday with buy it now, but all of a sudden it's back...

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Posted By: <b>fkw</b><p>It could be a scam...<br /><br /> But with the sellers feedback, Im thinking it could be a buyer who is jumping the gun and trying to sell for a profit before he actually pays for the Mastro card. <br /><br />Maybe he didnt have the $9777 + juice to pay Mastros and is trying to get payment to forward to Mastro???<br /><br />Risky, but the private auction feature makes me think this.

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Posted By: <b>Doug</b><p>Maybe he is the one that won it and he's trying to turn it for a profit before he even gets it, but besides the private auction it seems sketchy to me that he covered up the serial number. I would think that anyone who saw the Mastro auction could tell that it's the exact same card with or without the serial number.

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Posted By: <b>Steve</b><p>31414381 is the cert of the ebay card. The seller "juanfan" emailed it to me. Is it the same?<br /><br /><br />Steve

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Posted By: <b>Doug</b><p>That's the same number all right. In fact here's a link to the same card on the Mastro auction: <a href="http://www.mastronet.com/index.cfm?action=DisplayContent&ContentName=Lot%20 Information&LotIndex=77087&LastLotListing=Lot%20Se arch%20List&CurrentRow=21" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.mastronet.com/index.cfm?action=DisplayContent&ContentName=Lot%20 Information&LotIndex=77087&LastLotListing=Lot%20Se arch%20List&CurrentRow=21</a> it makes me wonder how he's selling the same card already when the auction invoices are supposed to be sent out today.

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Posted By: <b>Doug</b><p>Something must have been up. Ebay pulled the auction last night.

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Posted By: <b>Doug</b><p>It's baaaack! Go ebay! <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/Mickey-Mantle-1952-Topps-311-PSA-4-CENTERED-WoW_W0QQitemZ280185583503QQihZ018QQcategoryZ55917Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/Mickey-Mantle-1952-Topps-311-PSA-4-CENTERED-WoW_W0QQitemZ280185583503QQihZ018QQcategoryZ55917Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem</a>

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Posted By: <b>Fred Y</b><p>Stay away from anything by "Juanfan"---He has been written about many times on the EBay Board & also CU.<br /><br />Has pulled scams w/ Jordans, Mantles & 1996 Mirror Golds.<br /><br />Even Amy Lee's piano! (Evanescense)

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Posted By: <b>Doug</b><p>I just can't believe that ebay lets people get away with that stuff, let alone recognize them as "powersellers". They apparently pulled the auction last time because the link I originally posted said "Item has been removed by ebay" when I clicked on it the other day, but he just goes and relists it again anyway. I've seen that stuff happen several times. I would think that ebay would start banning these people instead of just pulling their auctions and letting them put the same thing right back on there. I got ripped off (along with about a dozen other people) for $1500 about 8-9 years ago by someone pulling the same thing with Jordan rookies and ebay didn't do a thing about it other than suspend the sellers account.

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Posted By: <b>marty quinn</b><p>now why would he protect bidders identity?? you know why, to "shill" thats why, thats my opinoin and i am sticking to it, i put this guy on my sleaze ball list, do the same.

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Posted By: <b>Doug</b><p>I tried to get one of the ebay customer service people to explain what the point of private auctions was other than to encourage shilling and I didn't get much of an answer. Although they didn't have any response to me asking them if allowing people to have private feedback defeated the purpose of having a feedback system either. Oh wait, they gave me a link to some "make a suggestion to ebay" page. I'm sure there will be sweeping changes in the immediate future based on my concerns....HA!

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Posted By: <b>Matt</b><p>Doug - the private system allows ebay to be more lig big auction houses where you have no idea who you are bidding against. I think that instead the auction houses should accept the ebay system of bidder transparency.