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Jcfowler6 05-28-2012 11:29 AM

What is the most important hit in baseball history.
 
1960 game 7 Bill Mazeroski?
Babe's called shot?
Dimaggio's 1941 number 54?
Pete Roses 4192nd?
Jackie Robinson's first?
Ezra Sutton of the Cleveland Forest Citys on May 8, 1871 first home run ever?

Or is there another for you?

bobbvc 05-28-2012 11:40 AM

Hank Aaron's 715th was pretty important not just for Baseball, but for American history. Not sure if it's THE most important but a candidate to be sure.

thekingofclout 05-28-2012 11:49 AM

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Leon 05-28-2012 11:53 AM

most iconic?
 
When I thought of the question the first thing that came to my mind was Ruth's Called Shot. Even though it could easily have been misidentified it still is the most iconic baseball play. If it wasn't that then it might be the Babe's #714. That number has always stuck with me. Just some personal thoughts and everyone will have their own take on it.

kmac32 05-28-2012 12:11 PM

If you are a Yankee fan, consider October 5, 1921, the hit that started all of the Yankees World Series history by Elmer Miller. Only a single but was the start of the yankees history with the fall classic.

timber63401 05-28-2012 12:15 PM

Wont be a popular choice but McGwires 62nd HR has to be in top 10 atleast. His and Sosas chase brought back a lot of fans for the sports and also started the serious look at steroids in baseball.

philliesphan 05-28-2012 12:15 PM

Mazeroski
 
by a long shot.

Bill Stone 05-28-2012 12:17 PM

1960
 
Having been a Pittsburgh Pirate fan starting at age 5 I watched every year as the Pirates finished 7th or 8th in the National League from 1950 -1957 . My greatest joy was seeing them start to win more games in 1958 all of which culminated in ecstacy when they won the 1960 World Series on Bill Mazeroski's home run --I stayed home from school and watched the game on TV with my Dad, who recognized the importance of this game to me .

GasHouseGang 05-28-2012 12:17 PM

As a Cardinal fan it's either the triple in the ninth or this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vd0d...eature=related

barrysloate 05-28-2012 12:21 PM

Shot Heard Round the World.

Peter_Spaeth 05-28-2012 12:23 PM

Don Delillo in Underworld makes a pretty good case for the Bobby Thomson HR, although of course his account has elements of fiction and perhaps exaggeration. In terms of importance beyond baseball, I would agree with #715 -- a blow that arguably put an exclamation point on the chapter started by Jackie Robinson.

pcoz 05-28-2012 01:03 PM

Mazeroski
 
For me it's Maz. Bucs got outscored by the Yanks 55-27 for the series, and it's the only HR to end a WS that went 7 games. Although a slick fielder, you can make the case it was the hit that put him in the Hall.

Cardboard Junkie 05-28-2012 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by barrysloate (Post 997954)
shot heard round the world.

plus one!

Wymers Auction 05-28-2012 01:27 PM

Pete Rose 4192

Exhibitman 05-28-2012 01:30 PM

Personally, for me, it was the walk-off HR that Chris Chambliss hit in 1976 to give the Yankees their first pennant of my lifetime. Little did I know that it would be the only pennant I would enjoy as a NY resident. My family moved to LA in February 1977.

packs 05-28-2012 01:38 PM

Any of Pete Gray's hits.

Tao_Moko 05-28-2012 02:09 PM

I was at the game on September 11th when Pete broke the record and only 9 years old. That to me was an amazing moment in baseball that ultimately got me interested in pre-war players. I don't expect to see that record broken in my lifetime.

Runner-up was a sad, sad night for Cubs fans. Luis Castillo/Steve Bartman incident.

frankbmd 05-28-2012 02:16 PM

The best hit of his career
 
May 16, 1956

alanu 05-28-2012 03:02 PM

Jackie Robinson's 1st hit, whenever that was

Wite3 05-28-2012 03:15 PM

1. Jim O'Rourke's FIRST!
2. Jackie's First
3. Aaron's 715
4. Gibson's WS HR

My list is my opinion...

Joshua

esd10 05-28-2012 03:55 PM

what about the merkle bonner

CW 05-28-2012 04:06 PM

I'm not sure if it can be considered important, or perhaps simply historically significant, but Roger Maris' 61st HR should be considered in the list of great hits.

3-2-count 05-28-2012 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CW (Post 998020)
I'm not sure if it can be considered important, or perhaps simply historically significant, but Roger Maris' 61st HR should be considered in the list of great hits.

I agree Chuck. IMO it was both important and historically significant.

cubsguy1969 05-28-2012 04:28 PM

I would say the shot heard round the world, too.

But I think Mike Piazza's homer 10 days after 9/11 ranks right up there. I live in New York and as a Cubs fan, despise both the Yanks and Mets, but it was hard not to be moved by that moment. I still get chills when I think about it. And, gasp!, I pulled for the Mets that night. I think just about the whole country did. Perhaps even some Braves fans.
I don't think it "started the healing," as I've heard some people say. But it sure made sports fans feel better for a few minutes, and was a first step toward returning to normalcy.

Rob

sycks22 05-28-2012 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CW (Post 998020)
I'm not sure if it can be considered important, or perhaps simply historically significant, but Roger Maris' 61st HR should be considered in the list of great hits.


That would be my pick too. The true home run king.

Cooper1927 05-28-2012 04:39 PM

When Nolan Ryan pummelled Robin Ventura...those multiple hits cemented the old adage - Respect your elders!

Bugsy 05-28-2012 04:49 PM

Babe Ruth's 60th.

No other hit in history has come close to generating so many discussions and arguments. It seems like all premier sluggers over the past 75 years have had to face comparisons to the 60 home run season. Is Foxx going to be the guy to break it? How about Greenberg? Mantle? Even guys like Griffey and McGwire. Four guys have topped it, but were their achievements tainted or blemished? Yes, no, maybe? That is a matter of opinion, but we still continue to have these discussions (or arguments) because of #60 in 1927.

terjung 05-28-2012 04:57 PM

4192

oldjudge 05-28-2012 05:01 PM

A lot of good answers but I'll go with Gibson's PH HR in the WS (and I'm a Yankee fan)

packs 05-28-2012 05:08 PM

Mantle hitting the facade at old Yankee Stadium is pretty legendary.

Mark 05-28-2012 05:27 PM

It is tough to say which particular hit had the biggest impact on baseball or on other, less serious matters. As far as I know, Jackie Robinson didn't get a particular hit that made a big difference, even though his presence and subsequent success in the major leagues made a great difference in our society. But I would say that Ruth's 60th homer allowed fans to associate him with a particular number that set him apart from everybody else for generations. And this helped to elevate baseball's place in American culture. In addition, Mazeroski's homer gave Pittsburgh its first title in 35 years, and this helped to keep baseball alive in Western Pennsylvania for years. I am not sure how many other particular hits helped to change baseball or save a franchise. But I bet there are other examples.

Robextend 05-28-2012 05:30 PM

I will probably be the only one to choose this one, but Jim Leyritz off Wohlers in 1996 is #1 for me. If I was around in an earlier era it would probably be different, however for a Yankee fan that never experienced any winning, that was life changing.

Peter_Spaeth 05-28-2012 06:26 PM

715 was huge. For anyone to have broken what was probably the most sacred sports record in the American consciousness would have been enormous. Add to that the fact that it was broken by a black ballplayer playing in the Deep South, in a time that was still racially charged, only 6 years removed from MLK's assasination. Aaron later disclosed that he had received a deluge of hate mail, and death threats which had genuinely worried him, probably for good reason.

David W 05-28-2012 06:29 PM

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715 has to be it....

obcbobd 05-28-2012 06:50 PM

To Me :)

July 19, 1970

Fenway Park

First Inning.

Yaz hits a HR off of Rollie Fingers

I was 8 years old, sitting behind home plate, and that was the first time I saw my favorite player in person

mark evans 05-28-2012 07:53 PM

I agree that Aaron's 715 likely most 'important.'

Most 'dramatic' probably Thomson or Maz (which was extremely painful for this 10-year old serious Yankee fan. I saw Maz at Chantilly and was tempted to tell him but couldn't bring myself to spend the $35.).

prewarsports 05-28-2012 07:58 PM

Greatest single hit...

Bobby Thomson's Shot Heard Round the World. Even non-Sports fans have heard the call on that one.

For me as a 35 year old, Kirk Gibson by a LOOOONG shot. That is the closest thing you get to Roy Hobbs in real life!

Rhys

ethicsprof 05-28-2012 08:10 PM

'round the world
 
I'm sitting at my office desk staring at the side wall containing a Brace photo of Thomson with the matching baseball card ---both framed together and both autographed.
My vote is for the SHOT.
all the best,
barry

MVSNYC 05-28-2012 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by timber63401 (Post 997948)
Wont be a popular choice but McGwires 62nd HR has to be in top 10 atleast. His and Sosas chase brought back a lot of fans for the sports and also started the serious look at steroids in baseball.

+1

i know it's frowned upon (these days), but the HR race in the summer of '98 was pretty amazing. it captivated the entire country. everyone went crazy when he connected on #62. obviously we look differently at it today, but back then it was magical.

TheBig6 05-28-2012 08:33 PM

All memorable hits
Ruth's Called Shot
Aaron's 715
Ruth's 60th
Maris 61st
Bobby Thompson
Mazerowski's Homer
Fisk Homerun
The hit that went thru Buckner's wicket

Not an Important hit per say but a great emotional moment in Baseball History was Ripken's Homerun in game that broke Gehrig's streak.

Matthew80 05-28-2012 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mark evans (Post 998098)
I agree that Aaron's 715 likely most 'important.'

Most 'dramatic' probably Thomson or Maz (which was extremely painful for this 10-year old serious Yankee fan. I saw Maz at Chantilly and was tempted to tell him but couldn't bring myself to spend the $35.).

I completely agree. It's 715 > 61 because a black man eclipsed His Holiness. If Maris is black and Aaron white, then make it 61.

Not sure which of the two would mean more if they're both white or black.

Exhibitman 05-29-2012 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by obcbobd (Post 998077)
To Me :)

July 19, 1970

Fenway Park

First Inning.

Yaz hits a HR off of Rollie Fingers

I was 8 years old, sitting behind home plate, and that was the first time I saw my favorite player in person

Yes, Rollie Fingers was a great player.

Clutch-Hitter 05-29-2012 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon (Post 997944)
When I thought of the question the first thing that came to my mind was Ruth's Called Shot. Even though it could easily have been misidentified it still is the most iconic baseball play. If it wasn't that then it might be the Babe's #714. That number has always stuck with me. Just some personal thoughts and everyone will have their own take on it.

My Take:

1. It was something he would do
2. The trash talking from both sides provided reason for #1
3. He hit it out in an area nobody else could, deep center

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Peter_Spaeth 05-29-2012 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 998185)
Yes, Rollie Fingers was a great player.

Is he the only pitcher in the HOF with a losing record?

whitehse 05-29-2012 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by David W (Post 998073)
715 has to be it....

To me, as a 12 year old when Aaron broke the record, this is what is burned in my mind when one talks about a hit to remember.

And that All Time HR leader card from 1974 Topps......I could not beg, borrow or steal one back in '74 no matter how many packs I busted. This was the one card I really wanted and finally traded for one with one of the neighborhood kids who nearly took me for everything I had because he knew I wanted it so bad.

darwinbulldog 05-29-2012 09:05 AM

I'd probably go with 715 too. I'd like to add Clemente's 3000th in honorable mention.

EGreenwood 05-29-2012 10:18 AM

715

toppcat 05-29-2012 10:38 AM

I would argue Babe Ruth's 30th home run in 1920 was the most important hit in baseball history.

leaflover 05-29-2012 11:32 AM

Most important hit?
 
I would think that Maz's homer would be most important as it won the 1960 World Series. But don't forget about Hal Smith hitting the 3 run HR in the bottom of the 8th that gave the Pirates a 2 run lead going into the 9th. If the Yanks hadn't tied the game with 2 runs in the 9th then Smith would have been the Hero. Maz wouldn't have come to bat or make the HOF. For my money, from that team, Dick Groat should be in the Hall and not Maz. Just my opinion.

Jayworld 05-29-2012 01:21 PM

1. The Shot Heard 'Round the World. As stated earlier, even non-baseball or sports fans have heard of it or seen the footage, which has been used across multiple venues in the entertainment field, including an episode of the classic M*A*S*H television show.

2. In my lifetime, the Carlton Fisk game six homerun in the 1975 World Series was a pretty big deal. I remember seeing that on television as an eight-year old.


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