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brewing 07-01-2013 10:34 AM

What are the most undervalued Topps in Beckett
 
Which card(s), would you buy all day long at the Beckett high column?

savedfrommyspokes 07-01-2013 10:46 AM

1964 Topps 103 Curt Flood, any condition
1962 Topps 350 Frank Robinson, NM well centered
I could list many more, just the first two that popped in my head

rsdill2 07-01-2013 01:13 PM

Good question...most are overpriced in my opinion but there's definitely some that are underpriced. A few that come to mind:

-'66 SPs...especially Choo Choo Coleman (#561), Hoerner RC (#544), and G Jackson RC (#591).
-The aforementioned '64 Flood
-Not a specific card but I think Bobby Richardson is generally underpriced. I don't think he books except for his rookie card and they usually demand a premium

Interested to see what other folks mention.

bunst 07-01-2013 02:18 PM

1961 high numbers are definately undervalued.

stlcardsfan 07-01-2013 02:53 PM

The 66 Grant Jackson was the first that came to mind. By a mile.

Others: 68 Lee May, 67 high # NL rookie stars (can't remember players, definitely no names), 60 Pirates team card.

Harliduck 07-01-2013 03:33 PM

I'll agree on the 66 Grant Jackson...throw in the Mahafie and the Perranoski. Putting that set together was difficult, and it's pretty rare when ANY Topps card simply has NOTHING on Ebay at times. Even the 52 Mantle always has 10 or so cards to choose from. Some of those 66's would be empty...crazy.

In the 65's it is strange, but the Bob Uecker is a card that is routinely above book, and yes, the 61 high numbers. Putting sets together, here is a list of cards I have found difficult and had to overpay or wait on -

1954 Topps - Wally Moon
1954 Topps - Johnny Sain
1957 Topps - Mid Series (Tough)
1957 Topps - Ted Klewsuski
1961 Topps - High Numbers
1964 Topps - Curt Flood (WHY???)
1965 Topps - Mel Stottlemeyer
1965 Topps - Bob Uecker
1965 Topps - Richie Allen
1966 Topps - Horace Clark
1966 Topps - Grant Jackson
1966 Topps - Ron Perranoski
1966 Topps - Art Mahafie
1970 Topps - Seattle Pilots Team
1971 Topps - Lou Brock
1973 Topps - Gary Mathews RC



Just a few I had to overpay or had difficulty locating. I am perplexed on the 64 Curt Flood...I still need the card and can't find one anywhere but Ebay..there are plenty available, but 30-$50??? WHY?

SMPEP 07-01-2013 03:35 PM

1952 topps grey backs
 
I'll buy them all day long at high book price!!!! Even in poor condition.

1966 591 also came to mind. Still don't understand why that one goes for more than all the other SPs though. There is no logical reason that I've ever heard.

Cheers,
Patrick

stlcardsfan 07-02-2013 06:58 AM

I think I recall a discussion in another thread about some guy hoarding the 64 Floods. Basically bought everything that came up for sale and really affected the market for that card. Why he did or is doing that is beyond me.

savedfrommyspokes 07-02-2013 07:33 AM

When building sets, I buy lots/part sets of cards for the year I am working on. I have come across a fair number of 64 Floods in these lots and have sold them off on ebay. Over the past 2 years I have sold 11 different 1964 Floods that I have received in these various lots. For me, 6 of the 11 I sold were to the same buyer. In flipping through his feedback, he appears to be the person buying as many copies of this card as possible.


http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...:X:AAQ:US:1183

JollyElm 07-02-2013 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes (Post 1153347)
When building sets, I buy lots/part sets of cards for the year I am working on. I have come across a fair number of 64 Floods in these lots and have sold them off on ebay. Over the past 2 years I have sold 11 different 1964 Floods that I have received in these various lots. For me, 6 of the 11 I sold were to the same buyer. In flipping through his feedback, he appears to be the person buying as many copies of this card as possible.


http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...:X:AAQ:US:1183

Wow, that guy is really in the wake of the Floods...

Cardboard Junkie 07-02-2013 12:10 PM

What is it about that 66 Grant Jackson card?...soooo tough!!!:eek:Dave

spider93 07-02-2013 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes (Post 1153347)
When building sets, I buy lots/part sets of cards for the year I am working on. I have come across a fair number of 64 Floods in these lots and have sold them off on ebay. Over the past 2 years I have sold 11 different 1964 Floods that I have received in these various lots. For me, 6 of the 11 I sold were to the same buyer. In flipping through his feedback, he appears to be the person buying as many copies of this card as possible.


http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...:X:AAQ:US:1183

hysterical! trying to create scarcity in the future I suppose!!!.....

nolemmings 07-02-2013 01:04 PM

Quote:

What is it about that 66 Grant Jackson card?...soooo tough!!!
Is it really any tougher than the '66 Bart Shirley? :rolleyes:

Beatles Guy 07-02-2013 01:26 PM

That '66 Hoerner RC drove me crazy for a long time. I finally picked it up but paid higher than I wanted.

Rich Klein 07-02-2013 02:01 PM

On the 1964 Flood
 
I wonder how much is conditoin scarcity and how much is this may have been this collectors' favorite player and this was the 1sr Cardinals World Series victory in that collectors lifetime.

You never know the mitigating factors

Rich

P.S. This topic brings back a memory which will be good in a Rich's Ramblings

Rich Klein 07-03-2013 04:51 AM

On the 67 Hi #
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stlcardsfan (Post 1153077)
The 66 Grant Jackson was the first that came to mind. By a mile.

Others: 68 Lee May, 67 high # NL rookie stars (can't remember players, definitely no names), 60 Pirates team card.

Was it the Don Shaw/Gary Sutherland one which was even tougher in the meglalopis because the card had one Met and one Phillies player

Rich

stlcardsfan 07-05-2013 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Klein (Post 1153753)
Was it the Don Shaw/Gary Sutherland one which was even tougher in the meglalopis because the card had one Met and one Phillies player

Rich

I think that's it, Rich. There's also another one equally tough that has a Cardinal on it. Obviously an undistinguished career as I'm a Cardinal fan and never heard of him. Shellenbeck or something like that.

I built sets back to 59. The 66 and 67 high's (and 61 as well) were by far the toughest part of that exercise. But the most fun, too!

Rich Klein 07-05-2013 06:51 AM

Here was the article I wrote
 
http://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com/32682/

My editor is very active on Facebook and we have gotten so much reaction to this article already and I've even recieved private emails on this article.

The card you are referring to is the 1967 Jim Shellenback/Ron Willis Card (Willis was the Cardinal).

Keep this thread going as knowing what cards cause us problems is a good start towards continuing to settle these old hobby mysteries

Rich

judsonhamlin 07-05-2013 09:44 PM

Cool article. When did you work for John? I used to spend a great deal of time at JKJ (and before that at the Rte 1 flea market) back in the day and have great memories of the store

Rich Klein 07-06-2013 05:31 AM

one or two days a week in the back
 
in 1987-88


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