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Peter_Spaeth 08-03-2023 08:45 PM

Sadaharu Oh cards
 
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One rookie and two others for me.

seanofjapan 08-03-2023 10:58 PM

Very nice. I have that Doyusha rookie and the Morinaga, but not the Kabaya Leaf.

Elberson 08-04-2023 12:50 AM

Pretty…….

nolemmings 08-04-2023 10:40 AM

My only one thus far, catalogued as a JCM41 rookie batting pose:
https://photos.imageevent.com/imover...ge/jcm41Oh.jpg

Bill77 08-07-2023 10:08 PM

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My only One is a 1974 Calbee.

gonefishin 08-08-2023 09:43 AM

Heritage Auctions currently has 2 graded Oh Rookies (PSA 6 & 8) and a graded pack of 1967 Kabaya Leaf with an Oh, PSA 8 in their current Platinum Auction.

nat 08-08-2023 11:42 AM

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Nice cards! I'm afraid I've just got some Calbees, but I'd love to see more Oh cards.

Peter_Spaeth 08-08-2023 11:57 AM

Could Oh in theory be admitted to the HOF in some capacity, the way the Basketball HOF has admitted international players?

gonefishin 08-08-2023 12:33 PM

That's a great question Peter, but I really don't think we will see it in our lifetimes, if at all.

LuckyLarry 08-08-2023 12:56 PM

Here is my collection it's been awhile since I've looked at them and I can't get to them right now. Some of the images in the second picture are included in the first picture.

https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=30274

https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=30275

https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=23617

https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=23618

commishbob 08-08-2023 01:01 PM

Some of mine. I also have the Morinaga Top Stars card.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ckD9qo7Np...1600/IMG21.png

Playing card back circa 1969

https://i.imgur.com/GStzMhj.jpg

1973 JCM 15b Menko

https://i.imgur.com/1p9Rnul.jpg

Uncut Menko sheet. Oh is in the yellow circle sharing the card with an unknown pitcher.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-e56pd_uBe.../s1600/IMG.jpg

Peter_Spaeth 08-09-2023 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by gonefishin (Post 2362720)
That's a great question Peter, but I really don't think we will see it in our lifetimes, if at all.

Probably not. I was just thinking maybe the inevitable induction of Ichiro, plus the astonishing success of Ohtani, would somehow lead to a reassessment of Oh's HR record and place in history.

gonefishin 08-09-2023 01:11 PM

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If there were an international hall of fame I'm sure he would be an inaugural inductee.

I think this is the only Menko card I have, and unfortunately it is not Oh. It is a gentleman named Giichiro Shiraki, whom I know nothing about.

JustinD 08-09-2023 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2362940)
Probably not. I was just thinking maybe the inevitable induction of Ichiro, plus the astonishing success of Ohtani, would somehow lead to a reassessment of Oh's HR record and place in history.

I have thought that he should enter and honestly believe it will happen in the next 10-15 yrs but hopefully less than 10.

The largest market for sports is the Asia market and it is being chased constantly. Japanese Baseball could be considered as strong an argument as the US as a national sport and reaches as strong of a competition level internationally as our own.

With the inclusion of Negro League stats opening more inclusion of those players in the future and the current enshrinement of Cuban players like José Méndez who spent the majority of their careers playing Cuban ball, it seems natural that there could be more steps to increase recognizing more players.

Oh is a natural inclusion.

...Then if you following the bouncing ball it would open the door for Victor Starffin but now I am just talking crazy, lol.

Peter_Spaeth 08-09-2023 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinD (Post 2362998)
I have thought that he should enter and honestly believe it will happen in the next 10-15 yrs but hopefully less than 10.

The largest market for sports is the Asia market and it is being chased constantly. Japanese Baseball could be considered as strong an argument as the US as a national sport and reaches as strong of a competition level internationally as our own.

With the inclusion of Negro League stats opening more inclusion of those players in the future and the current enshrinement of Cuban players like José Méndez who spent the majority of their careers playing Cuban ball, it seems natural that there could be more steps to increase recognizing more players.

Oh is a natural inclusion.

...Then if you following the bouncing ball it would open the door for Victor Starffin but now I am just talking crazy, lol.

If it ever happens, a lot of HOF collectors are going to need one and there aren't that many. Just sayin.

jb67 08-10-2023 09:10 PM

My one and only Sadaharu Oh card. Would love to see him get into the HOF.

https://www.collectorfocus.com/image...aharu-oh-psa-1

scmavl 08-14-2023 09:49 AM

Here's my one, a 1959 RC.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...219c62f6_z.jpg

t206fanatic 08-14-2023 07:24 PM

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been collecting Oh for a bit, like his rookies

seanofjapan 08-15-2023 07:21 AM

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1973 Calbee #7, autographed.

Exhibitman 08-16-2023 11:20 AM

I love the older ones but Calbees are really nice looking.

JJS1982 12-30-2023 07:06 PM

Sadaharu Oh cards
 
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Saw this in my local card shop. Can’t find much info online other than that it’s one of several Sadaharu Oh 1959 Menko rookies.

Anyone have further info on this card?


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maniac_73 12-30-2023 10:04 PM

Heres an article my friend Kevin wrote for PSA magazine a few years back about Sadaharu Oh cards. https://www.psacard.com/articles/art...run-king-japan

JJS1982 12-30-2023 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by maniac_73 (Post 2400897)
Heres an article my friend Kevin wrote for PSA magazine a few years back about Sadaharu Oh cards. https://www.psacard.com/articles/art...run-king-japan


Great article. Thanks!


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seanofjapan 12-31-2023 01:26 AM

From the article:

"There are about five or six Oh rookies that you could get in [ungraded] GOOD 2 condition for under $100 now," said Fitts. "[Ungraded] VG 3 examples tend to run more like $100 to $125, which I think is a bargain."

Ah 2018 prices how I do miss thee….

jjbond 12-31-2023 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JJS1982 (Post 2400860)

Anyone have further info on this card?

Well, Oh had a number of 1959 rookies (like, more than 60). In this specific set, there were two. One with glove (Type 1, which you saw), and one at bat (which is slightly more valuable, for some reason). The guidebook prices yours at $2,000 in mint condition, but the figures in the guide are more reflective of rarity/desire, rather than directly correlating to current sale values. This series is listed as R1, which means it's a fairly common set.

That said, a 4 is pretty nice for Japanese menko. Usually they come quite worn/abused, as the cards were played with by kids far more than American baseball cards. H/C indicates this card was handcut, which isn't abnormal for menko, but with its condition, I'd wager this was probably part of a 2-card, or 4-card uncut sheet (sometimes given out as a prize), which was later cut apart.

....but I could be wrong :)

seanofjapan 01-01-2024 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jjbond (Post 2401164)
Well, Oh had a number of 1959 rookies (like, more than 60). In this specific set, there were two. One with glove (Type 1, which you saw), and one at bat (which is slightly more valuable, for some reason). The guidebook prices yours at $2,000 in mint condition, but the figures in the guide are more reflective of rarity/desire, rather than directly correlating to current sale values. This series is listed as R1, which means it's a fairly common set.

That said, a 4 is pretty nice for Japanese menko. Usually they come quite worn/abused, as the cards were played with by kids far more than American baseball cards. H/C indicates this card was handcut, which isn't abnormal for menko, but with its condition, I'd wager this was probably part of a 2-card, or 4-card uncut sheet (sometimes given out as a prize), which was later cut apart.

....but I could be wrong :)

Just to reinforce that point about the typical condition of these, this is my copy of the same card!

jjbond 01-01-2024 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by seanofjapan (Post 2401191)
Just to reinforce that point about the typical condition of these, this is my copy of the same card!

I know that PSA puts a "H/C" or "hand cut" notation on some cards, is there a "hand torn" notation for yours?!

MuncieNolePAZ 01-19-2024 06:55 AM

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Just picked up my first Oh.

Chad

gonefishin 01-19-2024 10:02 AM

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Here is my Oh card, a 1967 Kabaya Leaf, but it's hard to see because it's in a sealed pack.

rman444 01-19-2024 04:13 PM

Your Kabaya Leaf packs are amazing! Thanks for sharing!


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