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Aquarian Sports Cards 07-06-2025 04:15 PM
All-Star Rosters
 
OK there's no bigger Dodger Homer than me, and I am a HUGE Kershaw fan, but what the hell is he doing on an All-Star roster this year??? He's been OK since he's come back, but he's got what, 8 starts? Weird, you'd think he'd announced his retirement and this is a gift or something.

jayshum 07-06-2025 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 2526011)
OK there's no bigger Dodger Homer than me, and I am a HUGE Kershaw fan, but what the hell is he doing on an All-Star roster this year??? He's been OK since he's come back, but he's got what, 8 starts? Weird, you'd think he'd announced his retirement and this is a gift or something.
Is he expected to pitch after this season? I thought he had said it was his last. Even if it is, he still shouldn't be an All Star with 9 starts and 44 innings.

jayshum 07-06-2025 04:55 PM
Just read this:

"Los Angeles Dodgers left-hander Clayton Kershaw, the three-time Cy Young Award winner who made his first All-Star team in 2011, was named to his 11th National League All-Star team as a special commissioner's selection."

Aquarian Sports Cards 07-06-2025 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jayshum (Post 2526015)
Just read this:

"Los Angeles Dodgers left-hander Clayton Kershaw, the three-time Cy Young Award winner who made his first All-Star team in 2011, was named to his 11th National League All-Star team as a special commissioner's selection."
I hope he turns it down

KJA 07-07-2025 03:46 PM
Is he retiring at the end of the season? I thought that's what this was about when they did it with Pujols and Cabrera.

BobbyStrawberry 07-07-2025 04:47 PM
The ASG rosters are so ridiculously large that it makes the whole thing kind of a joke anyway IMO.

jayshum 07-07-2025 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry (Post 2526156)
The ASG rosters are so ridiculously large that it makes the whole thing kind of a joke anyway IMO.
The rosters are 32 per league which is 6 more than a team normally has. Since pitchers generally pitch 1 inning in the All Star Game (maybe 2 for the starters) these days and the elected starting position players only play about half the game, it seems like the extra players are needed.

While the All Star Game is not taken as seriously by the players as it was 40+ years ago, it's still the best All Star Game of the major sports. The NFL basically got rid of their game, the NBA game is a defense-free joke and the NHL switched to a 3 on 3 tournament format to renew interest.

Snapolit1 07-08-2025 04:51 AM
Giving people “honorary” spots only going to lead to problems. Claims of favoritism, favoring big market teams, etc. Not a good idea at all. Nothing against Kershaw who has always seemed to be a very good guy.

SAllen2556 07-08-2025 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Snapolit1 (Post 2526263)
Giving people “honorary” spots only going to lead to problems. Claims of favoritism, favoring big market teams, etc. Not a good idea at all. Nothing against Kershaw who has always seemed to be a very good guy.
Oh c'mon, it's an all-star game, an exhibition! No one cares if Clayton Kershaw gets invited. And there's a very long history of inviting "super veterans" if you will: Willie Mays, Johnny Bench, Mickey Mantle, Al Kaline, Yaz, Cal Ripken - the list is practically endless - were all named in their last year of playing just as a token of appreciation. This is nothing new.

The all-star game is not what it was, mainly because of inter-league play. There's no mystique anymore about which league is better and how they match up. I think it'd be fun to somehow have divisional all-star teams and match them up. I think the AL central guys would love to whip the AL East guys more than they care about beating the National League.

Beercan collector 07-08-2025 08:17 AM
With every sport when the All-Star game comes around I’m simply waiting impatiently for the regular season to start up again . When I was a kid I didn’t think anything was better than the NFL All-Star game (with all the Rams helmets out there) but now I think they should just cancel all of them

packs 07-08-2025 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Snapolit1 (Post 2526263)
Giving people “honorary” spots only going to lead to problems. Claims of favoritism, favoring big market teams, etc. Not a good idea at all. Nothing against Kershaw who has always seemed to be a very good guy.
You'd have to be against voting too then. Every year guys get voted onto the team by popular vote and not because they're playing well.

BobbyStrawberry 07-08-2025 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by jayshum (Post 2526212)
The rosters are 32 per league which is 6 more than a team normally has. Since pitchers generally pitch 1 inning in the All Star Game (maybe 2 for the starters) these days and the elected starting position players only play about half the game, it seems like the extra players are needed.

While the All Star Game is not taken as seriously by the players as it was 40+ years ago, it's still the best All Star Game of the major sports. The NFL basically got rid of their game, the NBA game is a defense-free joke and the NHL switched to a 3 on 3 tournament format to renew interest.
Or the players could play more of the game and the rosters could be normal size. Even 26 players for one game is ridiculous. I agree with BeercanCollector, just cancel all the AS games at this point.

Snapolit1 07-08-2025 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by packs (Post 2526295)
You'd have to be against voting too then. Every year guys get voted onto the team by popular vote and not because they're playing well.
Even Kershaw said it was weird. But if you think it’s ok that’s all that counts!!

packs 07-08-2025 10:08 PM
Do you think fans should vote on the All Stars?

rats60 07-09-2025 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by packs (Post 2526295)
You'd have to be against voting too then. Every year guys get voted onto the team by popular vote and not because they're playing well.
That has nothing to do with this. Here is the commissioner adding a player for no reason. Kershaw has not announced his retirement. In the past these legend picks have been all-time greats who are playing in their last season. Does Manfred pick Kershaw for the All-Star Game every year until he retires now?

Snapolit1 07-09-2025 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by packs (Post 2526423)
Do you think fans should vote on the All Stars?
Yes.

D. Bergin 07-09-2025 10:14 AM
Kershaws on a 1 year contract and just hit 3K K’s, and may possibly be the last one to do it for a very long time, depending on how Sale and Cole finish out their careers. Maybe they’re making an educated guess this is the end of the line for him.

D. Bergin 07-09-2025 10:14 AM
Duplicate post

gonefishin 07-09-2025 01:59 PM
Giving Clayton a free ride is ok with me, but what about Scherzer who has 3,405 Ks and Verlander who has 3,471 Ks.

Maybe because Max and Justin aren't retiring?

packs 07-09-2025 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by rats60 (Post 2526433)
That has nothing to do with this. Here is the commissioner adding a player for no reason. Kershaw has not announced his retirement. In the past these legend picks have been all-time greats who are playing in their last season. Does Manfred pick Kershaw for the All-Star Game every year until he retires now?
His beef was with favoritism and players from large market teams getting the pick. That concern is no different than a concern you would have with fan voting.


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