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aljurgela 07-16-2025 02:38 PM

My Josh Gibson Bat at Cooperstown
 
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Some of you may know that i have lent three bats to the HOF in Cooperstown... those of Martin DiHigo and Pete Hill can be seen in the Sole of Game exhibit and the Josh Gibson bat can be seen in the Negro League case. Here are a couple of pictures.

Hankphenom 07-16-2025 02:57 PM

Talk about "museum quality!"

quitcrab 07-16-2025 03:00 PM

Wow that’s awesome !

parker1b2 07-16-2025 03:47 PM

Awesome!!

GaryPassamonte 07-16-2025 03:55 PM

That is off the charts, Al. Who is the maker of the Gibson bat?

SyrNy1960 07-16-2025 04:07 PM

Great pieces, Awesome display ⚾️

bgar3 07-16-2025 04:11 PM

Great bat and thank you Al

Lorewalker 07-16-2025 04:27 PM

Wow!

aljurgela 07-16-2025 04:37 PM

Thanks everyone
 
Hope that some of you can see it in person in Cooperstown...

You can see closer pictures here:

https://www.christies.com/en/lot/lot-6021547

And the original auction write up....

JOSH GIBSON PROFESSIONAL MODEL BAT
A Spalding, Model Number 300 bat dating from the 1935 labeling period with the name J. GIBSON emblazoned upon the barrel. Exhibits outstanding use with a crack from the handle to the barrel that has been repaired with five small nails, slight checking (grain swelling) from repeated ball contact on the back barrel, many ball marks on the right and back barrel, and cleat marks on the handle. The bat also shows evidence of having been factory side written 39 oz W.A. Greenlee 5-8-35 Negro Natl League Pittsburgh PA and Greenlee Negro Natl League Pittsburgh pa 5-6. During the first half of the 20th Century, it was commonplace for players to send a preferred model bat back to the factory to request models of the same type. Once at the factory, it would be planed and inscribed with the length, weight, player’s name, date received and team affiliation. The Greenlee referred to on the side written bat is Gus Greenlee, owner of the Pittsburgh Crawfords for whom Josh Gibson famously played. As team owner, it is assumed he took responsibility for ordering additional bats for his players. Legendary Negro League slugger and Hall of Famer Josh Gibson (1911-1947) played for the Pittsburgh Crawfords from 1932-36, during the labeling period of the offered bat. Authenticated and graded by PSA/DNA GU 9.

aljurgela 07-16-2025 04:37 PM

Thanks everyone
 
Hope that some of you can see it in person in Cooperstown...

You can see closer pictures here:

https://www.christies.com/en/lot/lot-6021547

And the original auction write up....

JOSH GIBSON PROFESSIONAL MODEL BAT
A Spalding, Model Number 300 bat dating from the 1935 labeling period with the name J. GIBSON emblazoned upon the barrel. Exhibits outstanding use with a crack from the handle to the barrel that has been repaired with five small nails, slight checking (grain swelling) from repeated ball contact on the back barrel, many ball marks on the right and back barrel, and cleat marks on the handle. The bat also shows evidence of having been factory side written 39 oz W.A. Greenlee 5-8-35 Negro Natl League Pittsburgh PA and Greenlee Negro Natl League Pittsburgh pa 5-6. During the first half of the 20th Century, it was commonplace for players to send a preferred model bat back to the factory to request models of the same type. Once at the factory, it would be planed and inscribed with the length, weight, player’s name, date received and team affiliation. The Greenlee referred to on the side written bat is Gus Greenlee, owner of the Pittsburgh Crawfords for whom Josh Gibson famously played. As team owner, it is assumed he took responsibility for ordering additional bats for his players. Legendary Negro League slugger and Hall of Famer Josh Gibson (1911-1947) played for the Pittsburgh Crawfords from 1932-36, during the labeling period of the offered bat. Authenticated and graded by PSA/DNA GU 9.

icollectDCsports 07-16-2025 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by aljurgela (Post 2527776)
Hope that some of you can see it in person in Cooperstown...

You can see closer pictures here:

https://www.christies.com/en/lot/lot-6021547

And the original auction write up....

JOSH GIBSON PROFESSIONAL MODEL BAT
A Spalding, Model Number 300 bat dating from the 1935 labeling period with the name J. GIBSON emblazoned upon the barrel. Exhibits outstanding use with a crack from the handle to the barrel that has been repaired with five small nails, slight checking (grain swelling) from repeated ball contact on the back barrel, many ball marks on the right and back barrel, and cleat marks on the handle. The bat also shows evidence of having been factory side written 39 oz W.A. Greenlee 5-8-35 Negro Natl League Pittsburgh PA and Greenlee Negro Natl League Pittsburgh pa 5-6. During the first half of the 20th Century, it was commonplace for players to send a preferred model bat back to the factory to request models of the same type. Once at the factory, it would be planed and inscribed with the length, weight, player’s name, date received and team affiliation. The Greenlee referred to on the side written bat is Gus Greenlee, owner of the Pittsburgh Crawfords for whom Josh Gibson famously played. As team owner, it is assumed he took responsibility for ordering additional bats for his players. Legendary Negro League slugger and Hall of Famer Josh Gibson (1911-1947) played for the Pittsburgh Crawfords from 1932-36, during the labeling period of the offered bat. Authenticated and graded by PSA/DNA GU 9.

Thanks for this and the photo of the HOF exhibit. The bat and the other items included are all fantastic!

tippedfinger 07-16-2025 07:33 PM

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That bat is pretty awesome -- only other one I've ever seen is/was in Platt's collection (he owns Gibson's team jacket in the other thread). I think the Gibson family might have one remaining as well (they famously sold one a couple decades back to Topps that got chopped up. Pains me to write that.)

The Leonard Grays cap matches one I have in my collection.

icollectDCsports 07-16-2025 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tippedfinger (Post 2527819)
That bat is pretty awesome -- only other one I've ever seen is/was in Platt's collection (he owns Gibson's team jacket in the other thread). I think the Gibson family might have one remaining as well (they famously sold one a couple decades back to Topps that got chopped up. Pains me to write that.)

The Leonard Grays cap matches one I have in my collection.

That’s a great cap. The Leonard cap in the HOF display really stood out to me because one of my great baseball thrills was meeting him in the ‘80s. What a thrill. So cool to see your Grays cap, too. Is the bat in your photo game used?

tippedfinger 07-17-2025 05:28 AM

Yes, the bat was Jasper Washington's, who played for some of the early Grays teams in the 20's / 30's.

Fandom0610 07-17-2025 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aljurgela (Post 2527776)
hope that some of you can see it in person in cooperstown...

You can see closer pictures here:

https://www.christies.com/en/lot/lot-6021547

and the original auction write up....

Josh gibson professional model bat
a spalding, model number 300 bat dating from the 1935 labeling period with the name j. Gibson emblazoned upon the barrel. Exhibits outstanding use with a crack from the handle to the barrel that has been repaired with five small nails, slight checking (grain swelling) from repeated ball contact on the back barrel, many ball marks on the right and back barrel, and cleat marks on the handle. The bat also shows evidence of having been factory side written 39 oz w.a. Greenlee 5-8-35 negro natl league pittsburgh pa and greenlee negro natl league pittsburgh pa 5-6. During the first half of the 20th century, it was commonplace for players to send a preferred model bat back to the factory to request models of the same type. Once at the factory, it would be planed and inscribed with the length, weight, player’s name, date received and team affiliation. The greenlee referred to on the side written bat is gus greenlee, owner of the pittsburgh crawfords for whom josh gibson famously played. As team owner, it is assumed he took responsibility for ordering additional bats for his players. Legendary negro league slugger and hall of famer josh gibson (1911-1947) played for the pittsburgh crawfords from 1932-36, during the labeling period of the offered bat. Authenticated and graded by psa/dna gu 9.


wow!!!!

ruth-gehrig 07-17-2025 06:51 AM

Mercy mercy mercy!!:eek:

ezez420 07-17-2025 07:28 AM

Amazing piece!


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aljurgela 07-17-2025 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by tippedfinger (Post 2527819)
That bat is pretty awesome -- only other one I've ever seen is/was in Platt's collection (he owns Gibson's team jacket in the other thread). I think the Gibson family might have one remaining as well (they famously sold one a couple decades back to Topps that got chopped up. Pains me to write that.)

The Leonard Grays cap matches one I have in my collection.

Very cool cap! Love it! There is so little stuff of these great Negro League times out there!

Al

Snapolit1 07-17-2025 09:48 AM

Amazing is the only word that comes to mind.

icollectDCsports 07-17-2025 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by aljurgela (Post 2527908)
Very cool cap! Love it! There is so little stuff of these great Negro League times out there!

Al

With respect to bats, my understanding is that there are so few we can confidently say are game used largely because only a small percentage of bats used in the Negro League were stamped with anything linking them to a player, team, or the league itself. At least that’s what I’ve been told.

bleeckerstreetcards 07-17-2025 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tippedfinger (Post 2527819)
I think the Gibson family might have one remaining as well (they famously sold one a couple decades back to Topps that got chopped up. Pains me to write that.)

I’m working on piecing that one back together. Jaw dropping stuff as always Al.

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D. Bergin 07-17-2025 03:04 PM

Very cool. I was there back in March. I took some pictures of the Negro League display but I don't see that one on my phone. I assume I saw it if it was on display at that time and just shook my head in amazement. Just so much stuff to get lost in, and you look like a weirdo if you take pictures of everything. :)

robw1959 07-17-2025 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by icollectDCsports (Post 2527828)
That’s a great cap. The Leonard cap in the HOF display really stood out to me because one of my great baseball thrills was meeting him in the ‘80s. What a thrill. So cool to see your Grays cap, too. Is the bat in your photo game used?

If you're referring to the great Buck Leonard, I agree, although I probably didn't appreciate the thrill of getting to meet him as much as I should have. It was at Cooperstown during his inauguration in 1973, but I was just a 13-year-old kid at the time. I did get autographs of each of those guys on a ball, and then I played with the ball until they all faded away! What a dumb kid I was.

icollectDCsports 07-17-2025 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by robw1959 (Post 2528004)
If you're referring to the great Buck Leonard, I agree, although I probably didn't appreciate the thrill of getting to meet him as much as I should have. It was at Cooperstown during his inauguration in 1973, but I was just a 13-year-old kid at the time. I did get autographs of each of those guys on a ball, and then I played with the ball until they all faded away! What a dumb kid I was.

At least you still have the great memories. He signed an index card for me. I do still have it.

aljurgela 07-21-2025 09:49 AM

very true
 
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Originally Posted by icollectDCsports (Post 2527944)
With respect to bats, my understanding is that there are so few we can confidently say are game used largely because only a small percentage of bats used in the Negro League were stamped with anything linking them to a player, team, or the league itself. At least that’s what I’ve been told.

And those that do exist generally only have Block lettering due to companies not being willing to make custom bats for the Negro Leaguers (with their signatures). Sad, actually. I have more than 10 bats and only 4 of then even have the block lettering. The PSA Letters on most of these bats are really interesting reads as well. Side-writing and factory records are key for these items.

All three of the bats that I have at Cooperstown (Gibson, Pete Hill and Martin DiHigo) all have block letters.

Al

icollectDCsports 07-21-2025 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by aljurgela (Post 2528518)
And those that do exist generally only have Block lettering due to companies not being willing to make custom bats for the Negro Leaguers (with their signatures). Sad, actually. I have more than 10 bats and only 4 of then even have the block lettering. The PSA Letters on most of these bats are really interesting reads as well. Side-writing and factory records are key for these items.

All three of the bats that I have at Cooperstown (Gibson, Pete Hill and Martin DiHigo) all have block letters.

Al

Very sad, indeed. And thanks for the additional info about these bats. I’ve always been curious about how many are out there that can be confidently authenticated. Makes sense that the side-writing and factory records would be critical for many that can be.

jbsports33 07-22-2025 11:28 AM

Thanks for sharing, outstanding contribution on your behalf to lend the HOF these items!

accidental 07-23-2025 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by tippedfinger (Post 2527819)
That bat is pretty awesome -- only other one I've ever seen is/was in Platt's collection (he owns Gibson's team jacket in the other thread). I think the Gibson family might have one remaining as well (they famously sold one a couple decades back to Topps that got chopped up. Pains me to write that.)

The Leonard Grays cap matches one I have in my collection.

What brand is the Homestead Grays cap? Do you have any additional pictures of the inside? Thanks!

aljurgela 07-23-2025 09:29 AM

NL bats
 
Here is an article on the other bats

https://baseballhall.org/discover/ba...in-cooperstown

mrozie21 07-23-2025 08:48 PM

Very cool!!

tippedfinger 07-24-2025 07:50 AM

The Grays cap was manufactured by Wilson. I'll grab a photo of the inside and post.


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