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oldjudge 08-13-2025 04:49 AM

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In the current HA there are two M101-4/5 Joe Jacksons. With about two weeks to go a blank back PSA 6 is at $32,000 while a Morehouse Baking Jackson (Morehouse being considerably scarcer than blank) is at $92,500. While things could change a lot between now and auction end, these prices point toward scarce backs being worth considerably more than blank backs in this series.

Leon 08-13-2025 07:39 AM

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In the current HA there are two M101-4/5 Joe Jacksons. With about two weeks to go a blank back PSA 6 is at $32,000 while a Morehouse Baking Jackson (Morehouse being considerably scarcer than blank) is at $92,500. While things could change a lot between now and auction end, these prices point toward scarce backs being worth considerably more than blank backs in this series.

Hasn't it been that way forever?

And a doubly scarce back/card.
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BobbyVCP 08-13-2025 08:53 AM

VCP has the following
M4
Burgess-Nash
Everybody
Gimbels
Herpolsheimer
Mall
Sporting News

M5
Famous & Barr
Holmes for Homes
Sporting---backs blank
Successful Farming

oldjudge 08-13-2025 08:58 AM

Bobby--what is that supposed to mean?

darwinbulldog 08-13-2025 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by oldjudge (Post 2532625)
Bobby--what is that supposed to mean?

I presume "M4" and "M5" there refer specifically to M101-4s and M101-5s respectively. Blank backs are found with both though, as are several others (including Morehouse).

Rhotchkiss 08-13-2025 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2532611)
Hasn't it been that way forever? .

+1.

nolemmings 08-13-2025 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by oldjudge (Post 2532599)
In the current HA there are two M101-4/5 Joe Jacksons. With about two weeks to go a blank back PSA 6 is at $32,000 while a Morehouse Baking Jackson (Morehouse being considerably scarcer than blank) is at $92,500. While things could change a lot between now and auction end, these prices point toward scarce backs being worth considerably more than blank backs in this series.

Jay, this just suggests that you should bump your buy offers considerably on those Wares you like :p. Anyway, M101s generally have been performing well the last year or so, regardless of back, but yes, the scarcer ad backs are faring better.

One thing that bothers me about the REA auction is their listing reference to Morehouse Baking being among the scarcest, along with Holmes to Homes and Indy Brewing. While the former is indeed tough, especially without unsightly paper loss, the latter is more toward the middle of the pack. Although everyone should do their own research, REA cites an article written by Tim N. and me 17 years ago, and we did not compare those two directly or identify them as it would appear from the listing. Also, not to pee in anyone's Raisin Bran if bidding on the auction, but there have been another 200 or so Morehouse injected into the market the past year or so, which makes them far more available and moves them down on the scarcity list. Just sayin'.

oldjudge 08-13-2025 02:41 PM

Leon--Yes, but probably not to the extent that those early numbers would suggest.
Bobby--I hope those listings arr not meant to be exhaustive. First, there are obviously more backs. Second, some like Famous and Barr and Herpolsheimer contain both M101-5 and M101-5 type cards. I still don't understand what your list was meant to indicate.
Todd--Good points, except about the higher prices 🤣

Leon 08-13-2025 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by oldjudge (Post 2532697)
Leon--Yes, but probably not to the extent that those early numbers would suggest.
Bobby--I hope those listings arr not meant to be exhaustive. First, there are obviously more backs. Second, some like Famous and Barr and Herpolsheimer contain both M101-5 and M101-5 type cards. I still don't understand what your list was meant to indicate.
Todd--Good points, except about the higher prices ��

I don't know, Jay. When I bought the almost complete set of backs from you 20? years ago, they weren't cheap (at the time I bought them) :).

oldjudge 08-13-2025 03:25 PM

lol, seems like a good price now though, doesn't it? Do you still have those?

Leon 08-13-2025 03:31 PM

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lol, seems like a good price now though, doesn't it? Do you still have those?

I wish.

But I picked this one up from you about 3 yrs ago. You didn't rape me too badly...:eek:

oldjudge 08-13-2025 03:41 PM

That's a beauty, Leon. So many have that ugly, but somehow appropriate, green stain in the lower right corner. I wonder why the tops of the letters in the player's name don't show up. It's an interesting variation.


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