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theshowandme 09-04-2025 03:49 PM

Hobby Fresh E300 Plow’s Candy Honus Wagner
 
Joe Orlando posted this earlier

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tycobb 09-04-2025 03:51 PM

That’s awesome !! Wonder what this one will sell for ?


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theshowandme 09-04-2025 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tycobb (Post 2537073)
That’s awesome !! Wonder what this one will sell for ?


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What’s your bid?

4815162342 09-04-2025 04:04 PM

Not that it really matters, but I wonder why it received the Authentic (unaltered) grade? The other example in the population is a 7. So was this one factory-cut short?

Also, I much prefer this hobby news over “Shiny Card Sells For Millions.” Too bad it likely won’t receive anywhere near the coverage.

tycobb 09-04-2025 04:07 PM

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What’s your bid?


Too rich for my blood. Good luck to any bidders on this board !


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theshowandme 09-04-2025 04:17 PM

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Too rich for my blood. Good luck to any bidders on this board !


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Sell some Coca Cola shares, Ty…

tycobb 09-04-2025 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by theshowandme (Post 2537079)
Sell some Coca Cola shares, Ty…


[emoji38] not a bad idea .


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Johnny630 09-04-2025 04:25 PM

Super Cool

bcbgcbrcb 09-04-2025 05:10 PM

Just the kind of thing that probably would have brought $10-$20K during the 2010’s, now 6-figures.

BobbyStrawberry 09-04-2025 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bcbgcbrcb (Post 2537088)
Just the kind of thing that probably would have brought $10-$20K during the 2010’s, now 6-figures.

Could be much more if one of these shark tank bazillionaire types ever learns who Honus Wagner was.

Swadewade51 09-04-2025 06:22 PM

"Hobby fresh" lol. Guess no one went out of their way to collect this copy.

chalupacollects 09-04-2025 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 4815162342 (Post 2537076)
Not that it really matters, but I wonder why it received the Authentic (unaltered) grade? The other example in the population is a 7. So was this one factory-cut short?

Also, I much prefer this hobby news over “Shiny Card Sells For Millions.” Too bad it likely won’t receive anywhere near the coverage.


It’s got writing on the back and looks like someone colored in a scrape by his foot. Also badly creased..


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4815162342 09-04-2025 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by chalupacollects (Post 2537097)
It’s got writing on the back and looks like someone colored in a scrape by his foot. Also badly creased..


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I see the wear and damage of course. I’m just curious about the Authentic grade without Altered.

Casey2296 09-04-2025 06:43 PM

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Fantastic card, love that image of Wagner, same as Max Stein postcard which is on my wish list.

Creases don't take away from the image nor does the staining/writing.

I'll guess a pretty wide range cuz it only takes a couple of guys to make that card run, 85K-125K w/BP.
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brianp-beme 09-04-2025 07:06 PM

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Brian

bobbvc 09-04-2025 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Casey2296 (Post 2537101)
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Fantastic card, love that image of Wagner, same as Max Stein postcard which is on my wish list.

Creases don't take away from the image nor does the staining/writing.

I'll guess a pretty wide range cuz it only takes a couple of guys to make that card run, 85K-125K w/BP.
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I'll be surprised if it ends that low. We'll see......

Casey2296 09-04-2025 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbvc (Post 2537103)
I'll be surprised if it ends that low. We'll see......

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You may be right Bobby, the NM7 went for $312,000 w/bp in Feb 2022.
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gst6 09-05-2025 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 4815162342 (Post 2537076)
Not that it really matters, but I wonder why it received the Authentic (unaltered) grade? The other example in the population is a 7. So was this one factory-cut short?

Possibly paper loss + writing on back = not meeting criteria for a 1?

paul 09-05-2025 11:50 AM

That's always been one of my favorite cards. I knew it was exceedingly rare, but didn't realize that there was only one known until now. Are all Plow's Candy cards this rare?

HW1903PLOWS 09-06-2025 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by paul (Post 2537190)
That's always been one of my favorite cards. I knew it was exceedingly rare, but didn't realize that there was only one known until now. Are all Plow's Candy cards this rare?


Yes they are…..go to YouTube watch

https://youtu.be/r0JEFzgohM8?si=HpRyITsQLKJp8FyJ


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Leon 09-09-2025 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Swadewade51 (Post 2537096)
"Hobby fresh" lol. Guess no one went out of their way to collect this copy.

It is from an orginal owner collection, I believe. So, it was collected. And it will sell for more than I have to spend on a card.
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CardPadre 09-09-2025 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Swadewade51 (Post 2537096)
"Hobby fresh" lol. Guess no one went out of their way to collect this copy.


Ha. Yeah, they should say “Fresh to this hobby, was previously in the hobby of collecting.”

mrreality68 09-09-2025 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by brianp-beme (Post 2537102)
Thought this one was worth displaying horizontally.

Brian

Sweet

HW1903PLOWS 09-09-2025 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2537898)
It is from an orginal owner collection, I believe. So, was it collected. And it will sell for more than I have to spend on a card.
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I hope! Who knows what will happen! Did you see the Kobe Bryant/Michael Jordan sale! Cards are crazy right now!


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brianp-beme 09-09-2025 07:03 PM

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That's always been one of my favorite cards. I knew it was exceedingly rare, but didn't realize that there was only one known until now. Are all Plow's Candy cards this rare?

Most are. Several have a handful combined PSA and SGC graded. There is one anomaly - Bill Dahlen. He has a combined 14 graded, with 10 of those graded as 1. The linked video briefly discusses Dahlen and the idea/theory that his cards were stacked and suffered water damage after a fire (if I remember correctly...I watched it a few days ago, and a lot may have been erased/altered in the memory bank, for crying out loud!). Most of the Dahlen cards seen have similar paper loss on front and damage on the back as the one shown below, which has not been graded.

Brian

HW1903PLOWS 09-09-2025 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by brianp-beme (Post 2537922)
Most are. Several have a handful combined PSA and SGC graded. There is one anomaly - Bill Dahlen. He has a combined 14 graded, with 10 of those graded as 1. The linked video briefly discusses Dahlen and the idea/theory that his cards were stacked and suffered water damage after a fire (if I remember correctly...I watched it a few days ago, and a lot may have been erased/altered in the memory bank, for crying out loud!). Most of the Dahlen cards seen have similar paper loss on front and damage on the back as the one shown below, which has not been graded.

Brian


That I didn’t know. Thanks for sharing. Are you talking about the fire at the Plows Candy factory or Bills own fire?


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brianp-beme 09-10-2025 01:28 AM

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That I didn’t know. Thanks for sharing. Are you talking about the fire at the Plows Candy factory or Bills own fire?


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The arson fire at the factory at the end of 1913, which supposedly is the reason why there is water damage to the group of Bill Dahlen cards (the damage is consistently in the same area on all of these Dahlen cards I have seen over the years, so I presume they were stacked on top of each other).

It took me forever to re-find in the interview video where this was mentioned, but it is at the very end, at the 45 minute mark.

Brian

HW1903PLOWS 09-10-2025 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by brianp-beme (Post 2537961)
The arson fire at the factory at the end of 1913, which supposedly is the reason why there is water damage to the group of Bill Dahlen cards (the damage is consistently in the same area on all of these Dahlen cards I have seen over the years, so I presume they were stacked on top of each other).

It took me forever to re-find in the interview video where this was mentioned, but it is at the very end, at the 45 minute mark.

Brian


Where can I find the video?


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brianp-beme 09-10-2025 10:19 AM

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Where can I find the video?


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...ummm, well, the video you are looking for is the one you previously posted.



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Yes they are…..go to YouTube watch

https://youtu.be/r0JEFzgohM8?si=HpRyITsQLKJp8FyJ


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Brian

HW1903PLOWS 09-10-2025 10:20 AM

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...ummm, well, the video you are looking for is the one you previously posted.







Brian


I found that! Very interesting indeed! Thanks


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CardPadre 09-10-2025 10:42 AM

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I found that! Very interesting indeed! Thanks


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Who the f**k is this guy that appreciates links to videos he's already posted and names his account after a post title?

HW1903PLOWS 09-10-2025 10:45 AM

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Who the f**k is this guy that appreciates links to videos he's already posted and names his account after a post title?


No I misunderstood and thought there was another video! Don’t get your nuts in a bunch! Mistake


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brianp-beme 09-10-2025 10:51 AM

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Who the f**k is this guy that appreciates links to videos he's already posted and names his account after a post title?


I have a feeling he is the person who consigned the Plow's Wagner. Despite the curious behavior, it is a pretty special card, possibly one of only two known.

I learned long ago to appreciate a card, and not the poster of the card, because I don't have enough wall space for posters of each card I appreciate.


Brian

Leon 09-10-2025 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by brianp-beme (Post 2538015)
I have a feeling he is the person who consigned the Plow's Wagner. Despite the curious behavior, it is a pretty special card, possibly one of only two known.

I learned long ago to appreciate a card, and not the poster of the card, because I don't have enough wall space for posters of each card I appreciate.


Brian

Correct.

Leon 09-10-2025 11:34 AM

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Who the f**k is this guy that appreciates links to videos he's already posted and names his account after a post title?


She's a nice lady I spoke with...
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Swadewade51 09-10-2025 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2537898)
It is from an orginal owner collection, I believe. So, was it collected. And it will sell for more than I have to spend on a card.
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Yea it was just a tongue in cheek comment. Classic Heritage’s fluff.

Sandlotpaper1903 09-25-2025 08:51 PM

Hi everyone — appreciate the conversation here
 
Just wanted to thank those of you discussing the card and its story. This one has deep roots in our family. My grandfather was born in 1903 in Corydon, Kentucky, and later settled in Arcadia, Florida, where he raised his kids — and where my sister and I spent many summers visiting him and my grandmother.

The Honus Wagner card was tucked away in family belongings for decades — mixed in with old photos, documents, even a few keepsakes we’re still going through. I’m not a collector by trade, but I’ve come to understand how special this piece is, not just to the hobby, but as a window into a time and a man I deeply admired.

The pencil name on the back? That’s my grandfather, Paul “Stanley” Nicholson. He was a quiet, steady kind of man. Hardworking. Honest. The kind of person who would never imagine his name would one day be connected to one of the rarest cards in existence.

We’re grateful to PSA for their work, and to Heritage for how they’ve treated the story. Whatever the card brings at auction, it’s been an honor to help bring it forward and share it with baseball fans and unique collectors alike..

Thanks again for the thoughtful discussion. We’re watching and learning as this journey unfolds.

Warm regards
Ky

Yoda 09-26-2025 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandlotpaper1903 (Post 2540571)
Just wanted to thank those of you discussing the card and its story. This one has deep roots in our family. My grandfather was born in 1903 in Corydon, Kentucky, and later settled in Arcadia, Florida, where he raised his kids — and where my sister and I spent many summers visiting him and my grandmother.

The Honus Wagner card was tucked away in family belongings for decades — mixed in with old photos, documents, even a few keepsakes we’re still going through. I’m not a collector by trade, but I’ve come to understand how special this piece is, not just to the hobby, but as a window into a time and a man I deeply admired.

The pencil name on the back? That’s my grandfather, Paul “Stanley” Nicholson. He was a quiet, steady kind of man. Hardworking. Honest. The kind of person who would never imagine his name would one day be connected to one of the rarest cards in existence.

We’re grateful to PSA for their work, and to Heritage for how they’ve treated the story. Whatever the card brings at auction, it’s been an honor to help bring it forward and share it with baseball fans and unique collectors alike..

Thanks again for the thoughtful discussion. We’re watching and learning as this journey unfolds.

Warm regards
Ky

If this card reaches the lofty level to which I expect, then think of the jump in value for the PSA7 and its lucky owner.

BioCRN 09-26-2025 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandlotpaper1903 (Post 2540571)
The pencil name on the back? That’s my grandfather, Paul “Stanley” Nicholson. He was a quiet, steady kind of man.

Be sure to tell the younger people in your family about this aspect of the card.

While someone may purchase it and keep it for the rest of their life, it is not uncommon to see a card like this change hands after the initial sale and it should be one of the top lots at any auction.

The card, and the name on the back, could very well be making it's way through auction houses every few years/decades long past the lives of the people who put it up for sale.

It's a low key hobby legacy, but it's still neat to the family in question.


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