1960's Autograph help
 

I have a ball from around 1960, and I can't identify the autograph under Ken Boyer. The other autographs on the ball are Solly Hemus, Johnny Keane, Charlie James, and Don Cardwell. Could be Cardinals or possibly Houston Buffs, but Cardwell throws me off. Thanks for the help.

Makes no sense as he neither played nor coached for the Cardinals, and it's not a perfect match but it reminds me of John Pramesa, he separates his last name into two pieces like that but there's a lot of things that don't match up, of course with a faded and bled autograph it's tough.

Strange one indeed! I am curious too!

Hemus was fired in 1961 I believe, and James began with STL in 1960, so I think that would put this ball around 60-61 if it were signed at a game.

Cardwell, as said before, was never a Cardinal, but this ball could be from a spring training game, MLB game, or even a celebrity event (awards dinner or golf tournament). I am pretty sure that sig under Boyer (appears to be "John") is NOT an MLB player; could be an executive, scout, front office or even some type of celebrity.

I have a few signed balls from the 1960s with oddball group of seemingly unrelated signatures, most all of them trace back to Professional Baseball Players Association of America golf outings, dinners and such.

That "ICE" looking combination of letters detached from the name may be a suffix of some kind.