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Archive 12-16-2005 01:15 PM

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Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>Somebody mentioned on another thread about a particular card being one of the top ten most important cards in the hobby. Anybody want to throw out their own subjective list.<br />Here are my first thoughts:<br /><br />In no particular order<br /><br />T206 Honus Wagner<br />1914/15 CJ Joe Jackson (I like it more than the E90-1 - personal bias)<br />1952 Topps Mantle<br />Just So Cy Young<br />T206 Cobb/Cobb back<br />1933 Goudey Ruths (Pick your favorite; I like #53)<br />1934 Goudey Gerhig #37<br />N28 Anson (I like it better than the N172s, the Mayo, etc. - personal bias)<br />E90-1 Mitchell (seems to be fading, but once was the "Wagner of E cards")<br />1933 Goudey Lajoie #106<br />T206 Plank<br /><br />Honorable mention: E93 Wagner (I had to include at least one E93 <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> )<br /><br /><br />I know I am forgetting important cards and when I read other's lists, I will want to change my own, but this should get things started.<br /><br />JimB<br /><br />(edited to add message title)

Archive 12-16-2005 01:32 PM

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Posted By: <b>Bryan</b><p>Define importance.<br /><br />I mean the 1989 Fleer Billy Ripken was an important card in that it set off a firestorm of the "intentional error cards." That changed the hobby for a couple of years.<br /><br />It would seem this card has more of an impact on the hobby in general than say the Just So Cy Young. But the Just So Cy Young is one of the most rare cards in existance.<br /><br />I think you almost need to call the list 10 ten most important vintage cards. That way you can eliminate all of the modern day cards that are important to the hobby but cards most vintage collectors couldn't care less about.<br /><br />Just a thought.

Archive 12-16-2005 01:34 PM

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Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>I would probably have to go with the most popular players and then determine their most popular and well-recognized cards (NOT their most expensive or their rarest), so here is my list in NO particular order:<br /><br /><br />1 - T206 Wagner<br />2 - 1914 Cracker Jack Matthewson<br />3 - 1933 Goudey Ruth #53<br />4 - 1934 Goudey Gehrig #37<br />5 - T205 Cy Young<br />6 - 1952 Topps Mantle<br />7 - 1954 Topps Aaron<br />8 - T206 Cobb with "Ty Cobb" back<br />9 - 1948-49 Leaf Jackie Robinson<br />10 - T204 Walter Johnson

Archive 12-16-2005 01:46 PM

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Posted By: <b>andy becker</b><p>i won't give ten....but i would think the 33 goudey lajoie should be included.<br />maybe not the first "chase" card, but the most recognized for sure.<br /><br />perhaps i should have read the list a little closer. jimb has 33 goudey 106 on his list. my bad.

Archive 12-16-2005 01:57 PM

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Posted By: <b>warshawlaw</b><p>By “important” I am considering importance to the growth and development of the card collecting hobby, not the rarest, not the most expensive. Perhaps call it most influential cards or sets of cards. <br /><br />N167 baseball players (1st tobacco cards; had these failed, bye bye hobby)<br />T206 Wagner (The Holy Grail)<br />T206 Plank (The Holy Grail’s bastard brother)<br />1952 Topps Mantle (the harbinger of the price explosion)<br />1957 Topps set (standard baseball card size parameters established)<br />1974 Topps set (first Topps non-series set)<br />1981 Fleer Craig Nettles (the main error card touching off mania over the 1981 offerings)<br />1989 Upper Deck Ken Griffey Jr. (the rise of super-premium cards)<br />1990 Upper Deck Reggie Jackson autograph insert card (the 1st insert card)<br />

Archive 12-16-2005 02:02 PM

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Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>Bryan,<br />I was intentionally vague in not defining "importance" so that people could understand it as they wish. Maybe that was a mistake.<br /><br />Hal,<br />I agree and had a hard time not including either the '49 Leaf or '49 Bowman Jackie Robinson. It should be there too. I think the '54 Aaron and '51 Mays are contenders as well. Maybe I should define the parameters a little better. <br /><br />Why don't we say pre-1957 to pull a number out of a hat. I choose that date as that is the first year when cards were printed in their modern size.<br />JimB

Archive 12-16-2005 02:23 PM

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Posted By: <b>Greg Ecklund</b><p>I think Adam's list is very well done, and to his I would add:<br /><br />1953 Bowman (first use of color photographs)<br />1983 Topps Traded Darryl Strawberry/1984 Fleer Update Dwight Gooden (poster children of the early rookie card boom as well as update set mania - people would buy the whole set just to get these cards)

Archive 12-16-2005 02:33 PM

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Posted By: <b>Julie Vognar</b><p>Baltimore News Ruth and the T210 Jackson. E93.....huh?

Archive 12-16-2005 02:37 PM

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Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>Only a handful of people know about them... and we are not talking about the most expensive cards... just the most important to the hobby.<br /><br />But if these are on your list, Julie...<br /><br />then more power to ya!

Archive 12-16-2005 02:41 PM

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Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>Hal,<br />I think Julie was referring to my honorable mention, which was a half joke. I do think the E93 Wagner is a stunning card with a unique pose, but still probably does not deserve to make the top 10.<br />JimB

Archive 12-16-2005 02:46 PM

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Posted By: <b>Peter_Spaeth</b><p>In terms of sheer evolution a la Adam's list I would include 93 Topps Finest, I believe the refractors were the first so-called "shiny" cards.

Archive 12-16-2005 02:48 PM

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Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>Jim:<br /><br />I was answering the question in her title.<br /><br />She wanted to know why we left out 1914 Ruth and T210 Jackson.

Archive 12-16-2005 02:50 PM

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Posted By: <b>Glenn</b><p>My approach is to choose a key card to represent each of ten major sets (most important sets? well that's another debate)<br /><br />1) T206 Honus Wagner<br />2) 1933 Goudey Ruth #53<br />3) 1952 Topps Mantle<br />4) 1934 Goudey Gehrig #37<br />5) N172 Anson<br />6) N28 Anson<br />7) 1914 Cracker Jack Matty<br />8) T205 Cobb<br />9) 1949 Leaf Paige (subject of much recent discussion)<br />10) T3 Cobb

Archive 12-16-2005 03:13 PM

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Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>Great Idea Glenn!

Archive 12-16-2005 03:29 PM

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Archive 12-16-2005 03:32 PM

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Posted By: <b>Scot Reader (ebay: sreader3)</b><p><br />I will equate "important" with "recognizable" for purposes of my list. Here goes:<br /><br />1. T206 Wagner<br />2. 1952 Topps Mantle<br />3. 1933 Goudey Ruth #53<br />4. 1934 Goudey Gehrig #37<br />5. T206 Cobb Red Portrait<br />6. 1963 Topps Rose<br />7. T206 Plank<br />8. T206 Magie<br />9. 1933 Goudey Lajoie<br />10. 1954 Bowman Williams

Archive 12-16-2005 03:53 PM

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Posted By: <b>Wesley</b><p>1. T206 Wagner<br />2. T206 Plank<br />3. 1933 Goudey Lajoie<br />4. 1952 Topps Mantle<br />5. M101-4 Ruth<br />6. 1934 Goudey Gehrig<br />7. CJ Jackson<br />8. 1948 Leaf Paige<br />9. 1954 Bowman Williams<br />10. 1933 Goudey #144 Ruth<br /><br /><br />There are a few rare cards and a few one of a kind cards that I would prefer to own over these ten. A Just So Cy Young or Kbat Ewing come to mind, but less than one percent of the hobby has even heard of those cards. So arguably, some of the super rare prewar cards that forum members love have almost ZERO impact on the overall hobby.

Archive 12-16-2005 06:15 PM

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Posted By: <b>Dan Koteles</b><p>a Victory Cobb or 1912 Matty Boston Garter ,or Jackson or Cobb 1913 Boston Garter, should hold some status ,but<br />where?

Archive 12-16-2005 06:50 PM

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>N162 "King" Kelly<br />T206 Honus Wagner<br />1914 Cracker Jack Joe Jackson<br />1933 DeLong Lou Gehrig<br />1933 Goudey Babe Ruth (anyone of the 4)<br />1934 Goudey Nap. LaJoie<br />1941 PlayBall Joe DiMaggio<br />1949 Leaf Leroy Paige<br />1952 Topps Mickey Mantle<br />1954 Bowman Ted Williams<br />

Archive 12-16-2005 06:58 PM

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>HAL<br /><br />Did I catch you referring to the 1949 LEAF Jackie Robinson<br />as a "1948-1949" issue. This set is not a Basket Ball or a<br />Hockey set....it's a BASEBALL set. Please don't hyphenate it.<br />Shame on you.<br /><br />T-Rex Ted strikes again.

Archive 12-16-2005 06:59 PM

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Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>Ted:<br /><br />As much as it pains me to do so...<br /><br />I feel like I have to list it that way or many of the folks will get confused.<br /><br />

Archive 12-16-2005 07:24 PM

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>HAL<br /><br />We beat this subject to death months ago. And, I thought you were on board.<br />If I recall correctly you subsequently chastised Dave V. for calling this set <br />something else other than 1949. Pardon me for being so dogmatic....or is it<br /> dogged; but, I feel you have regressed.

Archive 12-16-2005 07:46 PM

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Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>T206 Wagner<br />Baltimore News Ruth<br />N172 Anson<br />T206 Plank<br />E107 Mathewson<br />G&B Spalding<br />M101-5 Ruth<br />1952 Topps Mantle<br />1954 Bowman Williams<br />1989 UD Griffey<br />

Archive 12-16-2005 07:58 PM

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Posted By: <b>zach</b><p>N172 Cap Anson in uniform<br />Just So Tobacco Cy Young<br />T206 Honus Wagner<br />T206 Eddie Plank<br />T210 Series 8 Joe Jackson<br />Baltimore News Babe Ruth<br />M101-5 Babe Ruth<br />1933 Goudey Nap Lajoie<br />1949 Leaf Satchel Paige<br />1952 Topps Mickey Mantle<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />

Archive 12-16-2005 09:08 PM

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Posted By: <b>Julie Vognar</b><p>Glad I am not alone...JimB, isn't that an E93 Matty in your avitar (isn't it funny how we call them avitars?)...I like that one better than the Wagner. I know, we are discussing IMPORTANCE. Anybody who doesn't know about the T210 Jackson and Baltimore News Ruth is...missing something.

Archive 12-16-2005 09:18 PM

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Posted By: <b>Charlie O'Neal</b><p>T206 Wagner<br />33 Goudey Lajoie<br />33 Goudey Ruth<br />14 CJ Jackson/Cobb<br />33 Goudey Gehrig<br />52 Topps Mantle<br />84 Fleer Update Set<br />89 UD Griffey Jr.<br />89 Fleer Ripken FF<br />94 SP Arod<br /><br />Everything that I picked after 1980 was b/c if the importance the card(s) had on changing the hobby. Anything that was picked before 1980 was b/c they are the most recgonizable to most people outside of the hobby with the exception of Lajoie.

Archive 12-16-2005 09:30 PM

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Posted By: <b>Brian C. Daniels</b><p>funny Hal,no one commented on it. There are piles of them and it's not "our" group's type of true Vintage but he is underrated and the card is attractive.<br /><br /><img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

Archive 12-16-2005 10:55 PM

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>This is probably a very old school style list with a few updates:<br /><br />t206 Wagner<br />t206 Plank<br />t206 Magie<br />1933 Goudey Lajoie<br />e90-1 Mitchell (this card is getting really iffy for this type list)<br />1952 Topps Mantle<br />1981 Craig Nettles variation (started the variation craze)<br /><br />After these cards, I think of any truley importnat cards, but can think of several sets. Many of the cards people list like the T210 Jax, Balt News Ruth, etc are important to us, but to the general collecting public, I don't think they reached the status of the cards listed above.<br /><br />Sets I would say are important are:<br /><br />Old Judge (the first true set of cards)<br />e107 Breisch-Williams (transition from 19c to tobacco/caramel cards<br />1933 Goudey (start of the modern gum cards)<br />1957 Topps (start of standard size as we know it today)<br />1989 Upper Deck (start of premium cards)<br />Not sure when the first was that offered up chase cards, but I was out of the hobby then.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>I've just reached Upper Lower Class. I am now officially a babe magnet for poor chicks.

Archive 12-17-2005 12:27 AM

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Posted By: <b>pete ullman</b><p>I AGREE WITH ZACH!

Archive 12-17-2005 02:00 AM

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>and then my list for stuffy blowhards like ourselves that don't think the rest of the hobby exists<br /><br />t206 Wagner<br />n172 Anson uniform<br />t206 Plank<br />1933 Lajoie<br />t210 Jackson<br />Balt News Ruth<br />Just So Young<br />e107 Mathewson<br />m101-5 Ruth<br />t231 Baker<br><br>I've just reached Upper Lower Class. I am now officially a babe magnet for poor chicks.

Archive 12-17-2005 02:44 AM

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Posted By: <b>Josh Wolf</b><p>1)1916 Zeenut Jimmy Claxton<br />2)1914 Baltimore News Ruth<br />3)T206 Wagner<br />4)T210 Jackson<br />5)T206 Plank<br />6)E90-1 Jackson<br />7)1933 Goudey Lajoie<br />8)1952 Topps Mantle<br />9)1951 Bowman Mantle<br />10)1954 Topps Aaron<br />Honorable Mention)1950-51 Toleteros Gibson<br />

Archive 12-19-2005 12:24 PM

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Posted By: <b>identify7</b><p>Most Importrant = something has to be most expensive and the t206 Wagner protects the hobby's rarest and more treasured cards from the deep pocketed collector wannabees.<br /><br />Also the 1952 Mantle serves the same purpose - protecting the actual Mantle rookie from the somewhat less deep pocketed wannabees.<br /><br />Throw in a pile of Playball DiMaggio's and some Goudey Ruths for the more relentless of them - and our collecting is secure. All at the cost of some very common and relatively common cards.<br /><br />These sacrificial cards are what is important to our hobby.

Archive 12-19-2005 01:01 PM

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Posted By: <b>DJ</b><p>This discussion is basically like screaming at a brick wall as everyone seems to have a different idea of how to approach it. <br /><br />My definition is what cards helped form this business and if that is the question, you have to put cards that people actually own and/or know about. The sad thing about history is that it's lost to most of the world. <br /><br />Sure obscure high value and one in the world cards are fun to put on this list but IMO, it all comes down to the cards that helped form the collecting mind like the rookie cards of Rose, Ryan, Griffey, Mattingly etc. <br /><br />If you go to the National Convention and ask EVERY card collector about Jimmy Claxton or what a Zee-Nut is, 99.9% of the people will issue you a blank stare. Or ask them what a Yum Yum is or maybe look for people on the show floor who may own one. <br /><br />Of course, this is brought to you by IMO.<br /><br />DJ

Archive 12-19-2005 04:28 PM

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Posted By: <b>Tim James</b><p>The ten most important cards have turned into the ten most coveted.When we talk about the most"important",it seems to me that it should be a discussion about sets,not individual cards.The first Goudey cards,and earlier E sets,and T cards have always been my passion.The beautiful artwork of the backgrounds and such have kept me glued to the hobby of collecting,and viewing these wonderful cards !

Archive 12-20-2005 07:49 AM

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Posted By: <b>drdduet</b><p>1. T206 Wagner<br />2. Baltimore News Ruth<br />3. T210 Joe Jackson<br />4. 1952 Topps Mantle<br />5. Cobb/Cobb back<br />6. M101 Ruth<br />7. 1914 CJ Mathewson<br />8. 4BH Kelly<br />9. OJ Anson in uniform<br />10. Just So Young<br /><br />This just so happens to be the order that I'd acquire them if I had endless funds.

Archive 12-20-2005 08:57 AM

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Posted By: <b>Cat</b><p>Other than the first two, not necessarily in this order:<br /><br />1. T206 Wagner<br />2. M101-5 Ruth<br />3. 1952 Topps Mantle<br />4. E90-1 Jackson<br />5. T206 Cobb (red or green)<br />6. T205 Mathewson<br />7. OJ Anson Uniform<br />8. Just So Young<br />9. T204 Ramly Johnson<br />10. 1968 Topps Ryan <br /><br />Honorable Mention: 1951 Bowman Mays (todays greatest living baseball player)<br /><br />I really would have liked to have said t205 Young (#6 above), but I needed to get Matty in there somewhere.<br><br>Edited to correct typos unless otherwise noted.

Archive 12-20-2005 09:02 AM

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Posted By: <b>Robert Zimmerman</b><p>1. T206 Wagner<br />2. 1952 Mantle<br />3. 1933 Ruth <br />4. 1934 Gehrig <br />5. T206 Cobb Red Portrait<br />6. M101-5 Ruth<br />7. T206 Plank<br />8. T206 Magie<br />9. 1933 Lajoie<br />10. N172 Anson

Archive 12-20-2005 09:20 AM

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Posted By: <b>Jay Miller</b><p>T206 Wagner<br />N172 Anson in Uniform<br />Baltimore News Ruth<br />Just So Young<br />Kalamazoo Bats Ewing<br />E107 Wagner<br />E107 Mathewson<br />Peck & Snyder Creighton<br />1933 Lajoie<br />1952 Topps Mantle<br /><br />Honorable Mention: Kalamazoo Bats Corcoran<br /><br />I have limited the above to individual player cards. We could also discuss the top 10 team cards. My list would certainly include:<br /><br />Pittsburgh Kalamazoo Bats<br />Peck & Snyder Cincinnati<br />Fatima New York<br />Joseph Hall Chicago<br />


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