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Archive 01-23-2007 07:08 PM

Period Stars of T206
 
Posted By: <b>Darren</b><p>Other than the HOFer's and Black Sox of the MONSTER, who are some of the other stars of the time, who arguably should not be considered commons....<br /><br />Ginger Beaumont -- 12 seasons, lifetime .311 avg<br />Harry Davis -- led dead ball league in HR's 4 consecutive years<br />Cy Seymour<br />Sherry Magee -- (not Magie)a top level player of his day<br />Larry Doyle --(no the error)won a Chalmer's (MVP) award in 1911<br />Gavvy Cravath -- a HR hitter<br />Chief Wilson -- hold the single-season record for triples (36)<br />Ed Reulbach -- lifetime 2.28 ERA and .632 winning percentage<br />Deacon Phillipe -- lifetime 2.59 ERA and .634 winning percentage<br />Mike Donlin -- lifetime .333 hitter (12 seasons)<br />Wildfire Schulte<br />Jake Daubert<br /><br />Many of the T206 subjects with multiple poses were notables at the time of issue.

Archive 01-23-2007 07:12 PM

Period Stars of T206
 
Posted By: <b>robert a</b><p>Bill Dahlen had 2461 hits.

Archive 01-23-2007 07:38 PM

Period Stars of T206
 
Posted By: <b>Jerry</b><p>Johnny Kling<br />One of the best deadball era Catchers

Archive 01-23-2007 08:02 PM

Period Stars of T206
 
Posted By: <b>Judge Dred (Fred)</b><p>To expand on Darrens pick of Cravath - <br /><br />He was an HR hitter at the end of the dead ball era. He led the NL in HRs in 6 out of 7 seasons from 1913-1919.

Archive 01-23-2007 08:03 PM

Period Stars of T206
 
Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>Was that like 4..maybe five homers for the year?

Archive 01-23-2007 08:15 PM

Period Stars of T206
 
Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>19<br />19<br />24<br />11<br />12<br />8<br />12<br /><br /><img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14>

Archive 01-23-2007 08:21 PM

Period Stars of T206
 
Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>24 one year....was the ball juiced or were roid's the fashionable thing that year? lol

Archive 01-23-2007 08:26 PM

Period Stars of T206
 
Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>just good 'ole fashioned whiskey...

Archive 01-24-2007 04:25 AM

Period Stars of T206
 
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Chief Wilson's record of 36 triples will never be broken and is one of the most bizarre records in baseball. The next highest total is 26, by Joe Jackson and one other player. I don't believe there is another record in the game where there is such a disparity between the record holder and the next highest total.

Archive 01-24-2007 06:12 AM

Period Stars of T206
 
Posted By: <b>Judge Dred (Fred)</b><p>The other person from that era is Sam Crawford. There were however several 19th century players that were between 26 and 36 triples (the highest being 31 triples by two players). But since the thread was for the T206 era the 36/26 totals apply here.

Archive 01-24-2007 07:05 AM

Period Stars of T206
 
Posted By: <b>Steve f</b><p>Hal Chase, <br /> For years the Leagues' snake in the grass and perenial pain in the ass to management, which helped his social standing with some players (the loving cup). His deviant behavior off the field made the Black Sox, even Cobb look like alter boys. He really had a knack for playing one against the other. He was a great athlete and if they had Paxil back then, Hal would be a shoo in for the Hall.

Archive 01-24-2007 08:48 AM

Period Stars of T206
 
Posted By: <b>Jason Carota</b><p>Red Murray:<br /><br />- Understated base-stealer (143 from 1910-1912)<br />- Twice finished in the top 5 of stolen bases and hr's (only others to do this were Wagner and Cobb)<br />- Amazing in the outfield (led in assists twice)<br />

Archive 01-24-2007 10:05 AM

Period Stars of T206
 
Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>On a related topic...does anybody know the last ballplayer that appeared on a T206 to be elected to the Hall of Fame and how long ago? Just wondering if any of the candidates above will ever get the chance....if so I would imagine the card values would increase.

Archive 01-24-2007 10:17 AM

Period Stars of T206
 
Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>i think vic willis & g. davis were the last ones, maybe 15 years ago...<br /><br />next inline would be deacon phillipe, IMO. i have heard he is on the cusp (now watch his cards go up in value becuase of my comment)... <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

Archive 01-24-2007 10:18 AM

Period Stars of T206
 
Posted By: <b>Jerry</b><p>My guess would be Victor Gazaway Willis, elected in 1995. Gazaway, now theres a different middle name for you. <br />My grandfathers middle name was Shields. Thomas Shields Thomas 1899-1974. Hope to be half as good a grandpa as he was.

Archive 01-24-2007 10:27 AM

Period Stars of T206
 
Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>And I was stacking up on the Bob Unglaub cards...lol

Archive 01-24-2007 11:13 AM

Period Stars of T206
 
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>George Davis was the last member of T206 to be elected, a couple of years after Willis. I heard that the HOF couldn't locate any of Davis's ancestors for the ceremony. Has anyone else heard that story?

Archive 01-24-2007 11:24 AM

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Posted By: <b>Darren</b><p>The Hall of Fame could easily locate one of Phillipe's ancestors...Ryan Phillipe--an actor of some note.

Archive 01-24-2007 11:39 AM

Period Stars of T206
 
Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>are you sure they are related?

Archive 01-24-2007 11:52 AM

Period Stars of T206
 
Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>My thoughts of Deacon Phillipe just went down...lol

Archive 01-24-2007 01:06 PM

Period Stars of T206
 
Posted By: <b>RayB</b><p>Just a little beyond 1909 but he does appear in the set.<br /><br />Dick Rudolph (Richard “Baldy” Rudolph) B/R T/R 5’ 9.5” 160 lbs.<br />Team affiliation in the set – Toronto<br />DOB – 8/25/1887 New York, NY<br />DOD – 10/20/49 Bronx, NY Age 62<br />Position – Pitcher<br />Major League experience – 13 seasons, debuted 9/30/10. 1910-11 NY-Natl., 1913-27 Bost.-Natl. Spitballer Rudolph had a handful of brilliant years but hung on to pitch 13 Major League seasons. He posted an impressive 121-108 W-L record with a lifetime ERA of 2.66. He was a 20 game winner twice for the Boston Natl’s in 14’ and 15’ with 26 (led the league) and 22 wins respectively. His sterling 14’ season included a 27-10 W-L record with 31 complete games and 2.35 ERA.<br />His 1914 WS heroics for the Boston Braves are a career achievement. He would beat Phil. Ace Chief bender in Game 1 (7-1, 5 hitter) and topple the great Bob Shawkey to clinch the 4-0 WS sweep in Game 4 (3-1). He struck out 15 A’s and allowed only 1 earned run in the two contests. He even went 2-6 with a run scored in the Series to help his causes!<br /><br />From BaseballLibrary.com<br />With Bill James and Lefty Tyler, spitballer Dick Rudolph rotated in a trio that pitched the 1914 Braves from last place on July 4 to the pennant. Rudolph paced the staff with 27 wins (tying him for the NL lead with Grover Alexander) and added two more in the World Series as the Braves swept the Athletics in four games. Rudolph was one of those allowed to continue using the spitter after 1919, though he was never successful again. After baseball, Rudolph became a''mortician. (JK)<br />T-206 Set – 1 card, Rudolph – Toronto<br /> <br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1169586308.JPG"> <br /><br />RayB<br /><br />

Archive 01-24-2007 01:12 PM

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Posted By: <b>Darren</b><p>During an appearance on the Tonite Show with Jay Leno, Ryan Phillipe mentioned that he is a direct descendant of Deacon. He also bragged about owning a card of him during his playing days.

Archive 01-24-2007 01:18 PM

Period Stars of T206
 
Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>How about "Wild Bill" Donovan???<br /><br />Career pitching record of 186-139 <br />Career ERA of 2.69<br /><img src="http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l111/asphaltman76/donovan1.jpg">

Archive 01-24-2007 01:56 PM

Period Stars of T206
 
Posted By: <b>daryle</b><p>How about Fred Tenney? .295 Career avg., 2239 hits, 17 years..not bad

Archive 01-24-2007 02:21 PM

Period Stars of T206
 
Posted By: <b>howard</b><p>In 1925 Kiki Cuyler was the last player to hit 26 triples.<br /><br /><br /><br />

Archive 01-25-2007 05:18 AM

Period Stars of T206
 
Posted By: <b>Kevin Cummings</b><p>Not all of the players below were actually in the T206 set, although all were in one of the card sets of the period. In addition to the players alredy mentioned above, the players below could be considered semi-stars with those asterisked as statistically superior.<br /><br /><b><u>Fielder</u></b><br />Patsy Donovan<br /><br /><b><u>Pitchers</u></b><br />Red Ames<br />Sam Leever*<br />George Mullin*<br />Earl Moore<br />Al Orth<br />Jack Quinn<br />Jim Vaughn*<br />Doc White*<br /><br /><b><u>Manager</u></b><br />Pat Moran


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