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					Originally Posted by Leon  I generally wouldn't crack a card out of a higher grade holder. I would probably not crack out a 5 or better but it depends on the card too. | 
	
 This hits the nail on the head--it depends upon the card and the condition it can usually be found in--if a "5" is a relatively high grade (as it is with most unaltered pre-war cards, it's too big a risk to believe you can beat the graders.
Larry