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					Originally Posted by btcarfagno  OPS+ shows how a player rates offensively when compared to their contemporaries and when adjusted for park factors. 
 Jeff Kent career OPS+ 123
 Bobby Grich career OPS+ 125
 
 Bobby Grich 4x Gold Gloves (and should have won several more)
 Jeff Kent Gold Gloves...BWWWWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 
 Kent should absolutely be getting a higher percentage than he is currently. He may get in eventually and I have no problem with that at all. But you MUST take his numbers within the context of his times...whatever position he plays. Bobby Grich was a better second baseman (relative to his era) than was Jeff Kent. Lou Whitaker was a slightly worse offensive player but a much better defensive player. Heck, taking defense into account, I could make a case for Willie Randolph not being that far off from Kent.
 
 Tom C
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 Grich rates 7th per JAWS, Kent 18th.  But just ask Darren, we saw Kent so we don't need JAWS.