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					Originally Posted by pclpads  Old flip.  Bump is possible. | 
	
  i think the time has past for the 'old flip' ripe for bump argument...i look at old flips like SGC/bvg/gai on big cards  (yeah i know SGC a LOT better than the other two)....if they would of been graded with PSA or grader higher with a half grade, it has already been tried by now or a reason it hasnt....