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Originally Posted by bravos4evr
Vlad first ten seasons: (10th during that period)
48.6 fWAR
144 wRC+ (100 is avg)
.405 wOBA
.381 OBP
.584 SLG
Miggy first ten seasons (3rd over that period)
52.7 fWAR
155 wRC+
.411 wOBA
.403 OBP
.573 SLG
first ten seasons they do compare pretty well, but their ENSUING seasons look like this:
Vlad (2007-11):
5.9 fWAR
120 wRC+
.361 wOBA
.354 OBP
.490 SLG
Miggy (2013-16):
21.8 fWAR
164 wRC+
.412 wOBA
.409 OBP
.565 SLG
Miggy has been on an entirely different level after about his 3rd or 4th season (he's dragged down a bit by his early years as he was so young when he came into MLB) Vlad is a good player, a borderline player, but his decline was pretty fast and his defense wasn't good enough to make up for his bat (and injuries)
saber stats are not hypothetical, they use real data and more data than stuff like batting average (for instance wRC+ takes into account the parks played in, league played in, the type of hit accrued....etc )
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No, they are hypothetical. Someone makes up a model, plugs in actual data and comes up with a number. They can't prove that number means anything.
If you want to claim otherwise, provide me with a mathematical proof that those stats mean what you claim they do. It is one person's opinion, that is all.