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Originally Posted by nolemmings

Actually Pete, Hager's grading company was ASA-- remember the old "Accu-grade" he trademarked? Now the "PQ" part of the grade, i.e. "premium quality" was his brainchild, and basically amounted to a half-grade bump.

Hager trademarked his grading system and sold licenses or dealerships that could use his system. I believe his holders were patented too--they were more rudimentary and uglier than the CSA slab linked in this thread. Anyway, I believe the CSA brand was a buyer of one of his licenses or dealerships, and was out of Ohio. The cards would often pass on crossovers, but were many times overgraded.

Oh, FWIW, I too think the first card linked looks like it could be trimmed, although the scan is somewhat small.

oh yes...u are correct!!!