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					Originally Posted by FrankWakefield  So...  thoughts on whether frame or no frame was first, or if they were simultaneously released... | 
	
 I'd vote that Frame was first.
If I remember right from my research, the cards that have a 350 With Frame, none of those cards have 460 series backs. 
For the subjects with a 350 No Frame, all of them (except Nichols Batting) have Cycle 460 backs as well as Piedmont 460/42 backs.